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Quote[/b] ]The republic’s founding fathers were deeply worried a future president might run amok or make himself an absolute ruler. The primary constitutional architecture of the U.S. government is designed to thwart such dangers through a brilliant system of checks and balances.
Congress was created as the premiere branch of government to express the voice of the American people. Its leaders have the duty and every legal right to intervene when they see the executive branch leading the nation over a cliff and repeatedly violating the Constitution.
So Nancy Pelosi was right to ignore Bush’s narrow-minded refusal to talk to Syria. She went to meet President Bashar al-Asad in Damascus. Interestingly, Pelosi was joined by some of the leading members of the pro-Israel lobby in Congress.
* Internationally Pelosi Rocks! * (http://torsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2007/04/08/3952148.html)
Pelosi, the Syrian reformers view.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news....D=55123 (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55123)
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ April 09 2007,18:28)]Quote[/b] ]The republic’s founding fathers were deeply worried a future president might run amok or make himself an absolute ruler. The primary constitutional architecture of the U.S. government is designed to thwart such dangers through a brilliant system of checks and balances.
Congress was created as the premiere branch of government to express the voice of the American people. Its leaders have the duty and every legal right to intervene when they see the executive branch leading the nation over a cliff and repeatedly violating the Constitution.
So Nancy Pelosi was right to ignore Bush’s narrow-minded refusal to talk to Syria. She went to meet President Bashar al-Asad in Damascus. Interestingly, Pelosi was joined by some of the leading members of the pro-Israel lobby in Congress.
* Internationally Pelosi Rocks! * (http://torsun.canoe.ca/News/Columnists/Margolis_Eric/2007/04/08/3952148.html)
Sounds like a bunch of Canadian politicians need to take a basic US constitutional law class before spouting off.
K0RGR
04-10-2007, 10:41 PM
Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,17:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
You might want to ask the Israeli's whether she was "interfering".
KI4ITV
04-11-2007, 01:39 AM
Well. the way I see it, Canadians are about as politically useful to Pelosi, as Pelosi is to official U.S. foreign policy.
It doesn't really matter what either of them say.
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Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ April 10 2007,21:39)]Well. the way I see it, Canadians are about as politically useful to Pelosi, as Pelosi is to official U.S. foreign policy.
It doesn't really matter what either of them say.
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Actually if the Dick and George Show take a permanent road trip, it might just mean everything.
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KE4FES
04-11-2007, 06:44 AM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,15:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif CORRECTION: PEOPLE DO NOT MAKE BUSH LOOK
RIDICULOUS. HE DOES A COMPLETE EXPOSURE BY HIMSELF. During a televised appearence Bush stated he could speak spainish [ mexican ] HELL every one knows he has difficulty with speaking American english !
charlie
KE4FES
04-11-2007, 06:54 AM
Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ April 10 2007,18:39)]Well. the way I see it, Canadians are about as politically useful to Pelosi, as Pelosi is to official U.S. foreign policy.
It doesn't really matter what either of them say.
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http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif 101 % correct.
like/dislike her ; who cares ?
UP TILL NOW, she hasn't stepped "out of bounds",
Still within the law. ONE CANNOT TRUTHFULLY SAY THE SAME OF BUSH .
CHARLIE
G8ADD
04-11-2007, 08:02 AM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 10 2007,16:02)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,17:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
You might want to ask the Israeli's whether she was "interfering".
What right has Israel to have a say in what an American politician does? You ARE a sovereign nation, aren't you?
73
Brian G8ADD
Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ April 11 2007,00:02)]Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 10 2007,16:02)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,17:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
You might want to ask the Israeli's whether she was "interfering".
What right has Israel to have a say in what an American politician does? You ARE a sovereign nation, aren't you?
Yes, completely. So is Israel, but the Syrian dictatorship does not recognize that fact.
Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ April 11 2007,03:02)]Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 10 2007,16:02)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,17:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
You might want to ask the Israeli's whether she was "interfering".
What right has Israel to have a say in what an American politician does? You ARE a sovereign nation, aren't you?
73
Brian G8ADD
So, it's just fine and dandy for our speaker of the house to go to Syria and tell them that Israel is willing to make concessions for peace, when in fact Israel never authorized her to say diddely squat on their behalf.
I guess the brits have a different definition of interference.
Quote[/b] ]Although Olmert later attempted to embarrass Pelosi by declaring that he had given her no message for Assad, his own spokeswoman (OLMERT's) issued a statement after their meeting on April 1, which clearly indicated that they had discussed what she might say to the Syrian president. According to that statement, Olmert told her that he would enter negotiations with Assad only if Syria withdrew its support for Hamas and Hezbollah. There is no evidence that Pelosi said anything different in Damascus. Why she expressed optimism about eventual peace talks between the Syrians and the Israelis remains to be seen.
Yep. Keep those blinders on. It's what's gotten America into the mess it's in so far.
* Link * (http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/04/06/pelosi_syria/index.html?source=rss)
Pelosi is Speaker of the House, not Prime Minister.
kn4ds
04-11-2007, 06:09 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 10 2007,17:31)]Sounds like a bunch of Canadian politicians need to take a basic US constitutional law class before spouting off.
Sounds more to me like the one world-government gang piping up again.
wa8rti
04-12-2007, 11:39 AM
Members of Congress have been taking 'fact finding' tours since long before any of us were born. It has been and remains a bipartisan sport. The White House can bitch all they want, but Pelosi is only following a well worn path blazed by members from both sides of aisle.
"Fact Finding" tours aka vacations to faraway places at taxpayer expense.
k5xit
04-12-2007, 07:39 PM
Quote[/b] (KE4FES @ April 10 2007,23:54)]Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ April 10 2007,18:39)]Well. the way I see it, Canadians are about as politically useful to Pelosi, as Pelosi is to official U.S. foreign policy.
It doesn't really matter what either of them say.
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http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # # # 101 % correct.
# # # like/dislike her ; who cares ?
# UP TILL NOW, she hasn't stepped "out of bounds",
# # Still within the law. #ONE CANNOT TRUTHFULLY SAY THE SAME OF BUSH .
CHARLIE
What law has President Bush broken?
wd0ct
04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ April 10 2007,16:02)]Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ April 10 2007,17:41)]Pelosi was not interfering, she was trying to teach leadership by example. Unfortunately, we don't have a leader, we have a misleader, and he doesn't like it when people make him look ridiculous.
You might want to ask the Israeli's whether she was "interfering".
Where is jty?
Oh well, I imagine he might say something like part of the problem is caring about whether Israel thinks she is interfering.
Quote[/b] (KE4FES @ April 10 2007,19:54)]Quote[/b] (KI4ITV @ April 10 2007,18:39)]Well. the way I see it, Canadians are about as politically useful to Pelosi, as Pelosi is to official U.S. foreign policy.
It doesn't really matter what either of them say.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # # # # 101 % correct.
# # # like/dislike her ; who cares ?
# UP TILL NOW, she hasn't stepped "out of bounds",
# # Still within the law. #ONE CANNOT TRUTHFULLY SAY THE SAME OF BUSH .
CHARLIE
Well I have to ask again and will probably not get an answer this time either.
1) Please name (1) or more laws Bush has broken.
2) If named, when did the trial and sentencing take place.
And 3, you're so uninformed
K2WH
wa8rti
04-12-2007, 08:37 PM
The White House broke the #foreign intelligence surrveillance act (not sure of the exact title) that required approval of a secret court #to do wire taps. #The law allowed court approval post wire tap if it was deemed so essential that it had to be done immediately. #GWB and company decided they were above that law and the executive branch had the power to ignore it. GWB has put more signing statements on laws than another president. These statements in essence state how the executive branch will or will not enforce the laws of Congress as the President sees fit. The trial has yet to be held. #I am amazed that the American people are not more outraged at this violation of their privacy. My Ben Franklin quote says it #all.
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ April 11 2007,14:02)]Pelosi is Speaker of the House, not Prime Minister.
Nobody said that she was.
Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ April 12 2007,09:37)]The White House broke the #foreign intelligence surrveillance act (not sure of the exact title) that required approval of a secret court #to do wire taps. #The law allowed court approval post wire tap if it was deemed so essential that it had to be done immediately. #GWB and company decided they were above that law and the executive branch had the power to ignore it. GWB has put more signing statements on laws than another president. These statements in essence state how the executive branch will or will not enforce the laws of Congress as the President sees fit. The trial has yet to be held. #I am amazed that the American people are not more outraged at this violation of their privacy. My Ben Franklin quote says it #all.
The President may authorize, through the Attorney General, electronic surveillance without a court order for the period of one year provided it is only for foreign intelligence information gathering.
Try again, what law(s) has he broken?
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ April 12 2007,19:56)]Quote[/b] (wa8rti @ April 12 2007,09:37)]The White House broke the foreign intelligence surrveillance act (not sure of the exact title) that required approval of a secret court to do wire taps. The law allowed court approval post wire tap if it was deemed so essential that it had to be done immediately. GWB and company decided they were above that law and the executive branch had the power to ignore it. GWB has put more signing statements on laws than another president. These statements in essence state how the executive branch will or will not enforce the laws of Congress as the President sees fit. The trial has yet to be held. I am amazed that the American people are not more outraged at this violation of their privacy. My Ben Franklin quote says it all.
The President may authorize, through the Attorney General, electronic surveillance without a court order for the period of one year provided it is only for foreign intelligence information gathering.
Try again, what law(s) has he broken?
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.
* LINK * (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/)
wa8rti
04-13-2007, 12:12 AM
To K2WH: Glad you are so trusting that it will be only for foreign intelligence gathering. I for one do not trust GWB, Tricky Dick II or Karl Rove #or the rest of them to have any real concern for the rights of American citizens. The FBI admits that it misapplied and misused the law. Since they are part of the Executive branch by default the buck stops in the Oval Office. GWB will never have the guts of Truman to admit to that however. With Republican control of Congress until last year, no one was asking the tough questions and giving any check on a President who thinks he was elected king. If he is so correct why have so many (including moderate #Republicans I've heard interviewed) state they are losing faith in GWB's leadership. And thanks to N2NH for the stats backing up this president's disregard for the laws as enacted by the Congress.
"Laws Bush has broken" Returns about 2,020,000 Results on Google.
* Google Linkey * (http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=laws+bush+has+broken&btnG=Google+Search)