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kg4kww
04-09-2007, 03:56 PM
If Pelosi, Reid and the Dems hadn't been scared of Iran, this problem wouldn't be happening. GW would have taken care of it.

Iran can now produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, President Ahmadinejad has announced, in a move likely to further strain tensions with the West
He gave no details of Iran's capacity, but some officials said 3,000 uranium gas enrichment centrifuges were running at the Natanz plant in central Iran.

Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6538957.stm)

al2i
04-09-2007, 03:58 PM
The entire Iran nuke problem is directly the result of the worst foreign policy decision in 4 decades: the decision to attack Iraq.

N6KX
04-09-2007, 04:26 PM
The Dems have only been in power for about three months!

GWB and the Republican Congress have enjoyed absolute power for the past six years and not only haven't done anything to help avoid this, their incompetence has instead empowered Ahmedinejad and left the US in greater peril than almost anything an enemy could have done. #The time to stop your BS has long since passed.

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kg4kww
04-10-2007, 03:42 AM
Yea, the Dems have been in power for 3 months and iran has gone ahead with their nuke plans and gas is closing in on $3.oo per gallon.

kf6rdn
04-10-2007, 04:01 AM
Greg, do you ever actually read what you type?

Most of the time, you really do our party no good, OM.

ka5piu
04-10-2007, 04:12 AM
Hello.

let us get the facts straight.
Israel got its nuclear program started by way of France and the US.
The US all but ignored what Israel was doing.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/
Now, Iran has stated that it is more than willing to allow arms inspectors to visit the area.
Yet the US, and the UN, are upset.
Contrast this to North Korea, a country that has been working on a nuclear program since Bush took office.
That is correct, to keep China happy the Bush camp has all but ignored what N. Korea was doing.
Remember the whitehouse statements?
It is not a nuclear explosion but a conventional one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_North_Korean_nuclear_test
Look at the timeline.
Starting in 2000 and really getting going in 2002.
Now there is little that can be done, North Korea has the bomb.
The funny part of all of this is the fact that Iran had 2 nuclear reactors before the fall of the Shaw.
The Iranians wrecked them.
Silly mullahs.

n2ize
04-10-2007, 04:21 AM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 09 2007,08:58)]The entire Iran nuke problem is directly the result of the worst foreign policy decision in 4 decades: the decision to attack Iraq.
Exactly... It is also the result of decades of rotten foreign policy.

n2ize
04-10-2007, 04:25 AM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ April 09 2007,08:56)]If Pelosi, Reid and the Dems hadn't been scared of Iran, this problem wouldn't be happening. GW would have taken care of it.

Iran can now produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, President Ahmadinejad has announced, in a move likely to further strain tensions with the West
He gave no details of Iran's capacity, but some officials said 3,000 uranium gas enrichment centrifuges were running at the Natanz plant in central Iran.

Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6538957.stm)
It has nothing to do with the dems. Bush has been president for 6 years. Iran is not stupid. Israel and the USA have atomic weapons, the Bush admin attacked Iraq and now has it's gunsights set on Iran. The Iranians are trying to build a bargaining chip as fast as they can.

n2nh
04-10-2007, 04:27 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ April 10 2007,00:21)]Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 09 2007,08:58)]The entire Iran nuke problem is directly the result of the worst foreign policy decision in 4 decades: the decision to attack Iraq.
Exactly... It is also the result of decades of rotten foreign policy.
And with our brave troops bogged down and over-extended in the Iraqi quagmire, there's little chance they can be of any use in Iran. And that's definitely not the Democrats fault, nor Clinton's fault, nor Pelosi's fault. So Greg, what would you do? Aside from nuking them that is. Maybe we should send some sky-pilots to convert them. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

With the troops very occupied in Iraq, doesn't anybody think that North Korea and Iran are doing a "while the cat's away, the mice will play?" When in doubt, ask daDecider. He'll be sure to know.

G0GQK
04-10-2007, 09:27 PM
As has been stated attacking Iraq was the most serious misadventure the US government has carried out in many years. As Saddam Hussein is not in place to control Iran this has resulted in Iran taking the initiative to bring the area into its control.

Please don't start WWIII. The atomic bomb factories are deep underground, they will not be destroyed unless they are entered. If Iran starts firing off missiles, who do you think will be first in the queue, not the US !

G0GQK

KG6QHK
04-10-2007, 10:10 PM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ April 10 2007,14:27)]As has been stated #attacking Iraq was the most serious misadventure the US government has carried out in many years. As Saddam Hussein is not in place to control Iran this has resulted in Iran taking the initiative to bring the area into its control.

Please don't start WWIII. The atomic bomb factories are deep underground, they will not be destroyed unless they are entered. If Iran starts firing off missiles, who do you think will be first in the queue, not the US !

G0GQK
First in the queue? My guess would be Israel. Ahmadinejad has already stated that IS should be wiped off the face of the map.

KE4FES
04-10-2007, 10:15 PM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ April 10 2007,14:27)]As has been stated #attacking Iraq was the most serious misadventure the US government has carried out in many years. As Saddam Hussein is not in place to control Iran this has resulted in Iran taking the initiative to bring the area into its control.

Please don't start WWIII. The atomic bomb factories are deep underground, they will not be destroyed unless they are entered. If Iran starts firing off missiles, who do you think will be first in the queue, not the US !

G0GQK
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif WHAT MISSILES ? FROM Where did IRAN get them?
Russia, China, N. Korea , Pakistan ? Ronald Reagan ?

Do you believe that Iran has a deliverable atomic war head ? And a MISSILE system for that purpose ? If not; WHEN ?
I agree with your post in general , except these
subject items, alluded to..


charlie

KE4FES
04-10-2007, 10:40 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ April 09 2007,08:56)]If Pelosi, Reid and the Dems hadn't been scared of Iran, this problem wouldn't be happening. GW would have taken care of it.

Iran can now produce nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, President Ahmadinejad has announced, in a move likely to further strain tensions with the West
He gave no details of Iran's capacity, but some officials said 3,000 uranium gas enrichment centrifuges were running at the Natanz plant in central Iran.

Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6538957.stm)
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif # WHOA ! #ALTO, UNA MOMENTO CHICO...........
#YOU STATED / SO NOW EXPLAIN TO THIS GRINGO .
JUST HOW DID A SENATOR FROM NV. AND / OR A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CA. SUDDENLY AQUIRED ALL THAT EMPOWERMENT , BEYOND THAT WHICH BY LAW OUR CONSTITUTION ALLOWS THEM ?
# "WE" ALL [ MOST] RECOGNIZE THAT GEORGE WOULD BE KING, MAYBE EVEN DICTATOR IF HE COULD, he's still trying. He and his party has managed to circumvent our
constituional laws > FACT !
# MAIN QUESTION: ARE YOU REALLY THIS STUPID ?
then how did you learn to write?? Or a ploy ,as maybe you are bored out of your reasoning.

CHARLIE # # # #it is better to be thought dumb, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.

ka5piu
04-11-2007, 12:01 AM
Hello.

Let us make this clear.
The leaders, both the US and in other countries, have far more contact than people are led to believe.
Remember the Iranian hostage thing?
I made 2 very clear statements that the press did not concur with until several hours later.
When the press does run this it is clearly filtered.
Watch the rebroadcast of Iranian TV, ever notice that most of the bottom of the screen is blocked by some network crap?
The Iranians have english text in this area.
If one were to make the effort to contact the Iranian officals by Amateur Radio guess what would happen?
The only way to find out is to try it, but be very careful of what you say, make it very clear that you are a private citizen and have no say on offical US policy.
Bottom line is that everybody wants to talk but few will listen.
The president of Iran has never said that there are any nukes in that country, quite the reverse is true.
What he did say was that the country is well on its way to constructing a nuclear power plant.
No missles of mass distruction like what was found in Iraq. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And, the US clearly can not handle Iraq, so now Iran?

KA7RRA
04-11-2007, 03:26 AM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ April 10 2007,14:27)]If Iran starts firing off missiles, who do you think will be first in the queue, not the US !
The 1st missle Iran fires at anybody well be their last missle!!!

KG6JTB
04-11-2007, 03:49 AM
Quote[/b] (al2i @ April 08 2007,09:58)]The entire Iran nuke problem is directly the result of the worst foreign policy decision in 4 decades: the decision to attack Iraq.
You have lost your mind. Iran has been after nukes for years. All of their neighbors (Russia, China, rivals Pakistan & India), except Iraq have nukes. They have geo-political pressures to deal with that most Americans can't fathom. This isn't about blowing up Israel or selling suitcase technology to Al Quaida. That is not their game; and if you believe that you've been taken hook and sinker by the neo-con spin machine.

Dave
KG6JTB

n2nh
04-11-2007, 05:37 AM
KWW, I believe these are your bats:

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KE4FES
04-11-2007, 05:49 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ April 10 2007,22:37)]KWW, I believe these are your bats:

http://i11.tinypic.com/2hp0npz.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif look like birds to me,,,,,,,, do bats have tail feathers ?



charlie

w2amr
04-11-2007, 10:57 AM
http://www.dropshots.com/photos/88780/20070411/035145.jpg

VK3ZL
04-11-2007, 11:01 AM
So,what's the big deal with Iran having nukes.Their rhetoric is no more aggressive than what comes from the other world powers.
Take a good look at some of the stuff written here on QRZ.
Just remember the first one to fire a nuke in the future will only be a smoking hole on the map 20 minutes later and the one who retaliates will follow soon after and so on.
There will be no winners..

Bob..

N9LCD
04-11-2007, 10:06 PM
Why don't we just dispose of some our surplus nukes by sending them to Iran?

It'll save us the trouble of having to demil them!!!

K0RGR
04-11-2007, 11:22 PM
The Shah of Iran actively sought nukes back in the 70's. It was speculated that he wanted them so he could nuke the Saudi oil fields, making them useless for at least 40 years, during which time Iran would become the leading power in the Middle East, able to easily blackmail the U.S. and Europe.

There are just so many ways that Iran could use a nuke to totally screw the rest of the world, that it is almost unthinkable to allow them to develop one.

As was pointed out previously, however, I think we'll have to rely on 'mutually assured destruction' to prevent it. The twist on that is the widespread fear that the President of Iran and the Mullahs are actually crazy. The president has previously stated that he would welcome Armaggedon, because it would mean the return of the 'hidden Imam' of the Shiite faith - their resurrection story. There might be enough fear that Iran can use it to blackmail us.

I think we need to make it clear that actual use of a nuke is not the only condition that might cause mutually assured destruction.

KA8NCR
04-12-2007, 03:00 AM
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ April 11 2007,03:57)]http://www.dropshots.com/photos/88780/20070411/035145.jpg
Very nice! Post of the year.

KG4CGC
04-12-2007, 02:24 PM
I do too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif