Can One Lose A License For Strong Opinions?

I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?

[KG4CGC]

Wild story telling that if allowed to continue, will become reality. That's how it's done.

[nz3m]

It's true.

It's all a big coverup to protect bigfoot.

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I suppose if you accused someone of being a killer on the air you might have problems. Seems people do it all the time on free speech forums like this.

Why would you worry? You don't seem to have a license.

[KB1GYQ]

I always wear a tinfoil hat when listening on 80M SSB... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K8MHZ]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,12:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?

I doubt it.

In my 13 years as a ham I have NEVER heard of even one single incident where a ham that lost their license didn't deserve it MANY times over.

[K3XR]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,17:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I think you're a little late. #April 1st was about a week back.

[K5RCD]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,19:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I see the computers are back up and running at the Illinois State Hospital. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ April 08 2007,18:03)]Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I suppose if you accused someone of being a killer on the air you might have problems. Seems people do it all the time on free speech forums like this.

Why would you worry? You don't seem to have a license.
I just didn't sign up with my callsign. I guarantee I have a license.

[KG4CGC]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:13)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ April 08 2007,18:03)]Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I suppose if you accused someone of being a killer on the air you might have problems. #Seems people do it all the time on free speech forums like this.

Why would you worry? #You don't seem to have a license.
I just didn't sign up with my callsign. I guarantee I have a license.
You must have been banned a couple of weeks ago under a callsign. Say bye bye Chi Guy!

I haven't done anything to be axed, a bit quick to judge aren't we? And as for the comment about the computers up and running at the Ill. State Hospital....that was crude, but funny! Gets a 5 on my joke o meter!

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,17:13)]I just didn't sign up with my callsign. I guarantee I have a license.
Why the secrecy?

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,19:13)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ April 08 2007,18:03)]Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I suppose if you accused someone of being a killer on the air you might have problems. #Seems people do it all the time on free speech forums like this.

Why would you worry? #You don't seem to have a license.
I just didn't sign up with my callsign. I guarantee I have a license.
Then prove it, or is your callsign a GMRS call sign and not an amateur service call sign?

Put up or shut up, station!

[ka5piu]

Hello.

This is QRZ, not OTA.
In some ways bad, in some ways good.
What I can say is this, IF the FCC wanted to go after somebody, it takes forever.
We had people who were anything but PC, jamming USCG and police freq's in California, that took years.
We have one ham who decided to play air traffic controller for a day with an old VHF AM radio, he got an arse chew and that was it.
In San Antonio Texas, somebody turned the Motorola smartnet radios on and off like christmas tree lights with a virtual type II dispatch console.
This was done with the help of 3 Arabs.
Guess what happened?
The FCC was more interested in how it was done than who it was done to.
So, short of sending telecommands to a SatCom bird or telling the USSS to "Suck eggs thru a flavored straw" on 160 MHz, the FCC is not going to do anything.

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ April 08 2007,19:07)]Hello.

This is QRZ, not OTA.
In some ways bad, in some ways good.
What I can say is this, IF the FCC wanted to go after somebody, it takes forever.
We had people who were anything but PC, jamming USCG and police freq's in California, that took years.
We have one ham who decided to play air traffic controller for a day with an old VHF AM radio, he got an arse chew and that was it.
In San Antonio Texas, somebody turned the Motorola smartnet radios on and off like christmas tree lights with a virtual type II dispatch console.
This was done with the help of 3 Arabs.
Guess what happened?
The FCC was more interested in how it was done than who it was done to.
So, short of sending telecommands to a SatCom bird or telling the USSS to "Suck eggs thru a flavored straw" on 160 MHz, the FCC is not going to do anything.
This almost tempts me to give my call, but because i'm not operating an amateur station, it constitutes abuse of the issued call.

I will say that it would be a blast to mess with the USSS! I can see them going crazy while they get a good mind screw!
"Suck eggs through a flavored straw" would be the least of it!

And, why not send tele-commands to a satcom bird? A little harmless mischief can be fun!

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (KG4CGC @ April 08 2007,17:24)]Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:13)]Quote[/b] (ad4mg @ April 08 2007,18:03)]Quote[/b] (FMChicago @ April 08 2007,20:47)]I'm hearing rumors in circles here and there that the FCC is quietly taking operator licenses and taking action against those who are not of PC opinion, yet have not violated any FCC regs or other laws.

I'm hearing tales of FCC Agents falsifying paper on people because someone said something on the air that grated someone's nerves who happened to be monitoring.

Can anyone say if this is just wild story telling, or of there is some truth to this?
I suppose if you accused someone of being a killer on the air you might have problems. #Seems people do it all the time on free speech forums like this.

Why would you worry? #You don't seem to have a license.
I just didn't sign up with my callsign. I guarantee I have a license.
You must have been banned a couple of weeks ago under a callsign. Say bye bye Chi Guy!
Very good, Charles.

I think what we have here is our little Chicagoland cop wannabe who has a bit of an anger management problem.

Why don't you go polish your light bar, station...

Dave NX6D
Tulelake, CA

[N9XR]

Yeah. KOW's buddy just got axed last week as the Chief of Police in Chicago.

[ad4mg]

Poof! Just like that. He shouldn't have called Audie a killer.

See ya! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ka5piu]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 09 2007,06:15)]Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ April 08 2007,19:07)]Hello.

This is QRZ, not OTA.
In some ways bad, in some ways good.
What I can say is this, IF the FCC wanted to go after somebody, it takes forever.
We had people who were anything but PC, jamming USCG and police freq's in California, that took years.
We have one ham who decided to play air traffic controller for a day with an old VHF AM radio, he got an arse chew and that was it.
In San Antonio Texas, somebody turned the Motorola smartnet radios on and off like christmas tree lights with a virtual type II dispatch console.
This was done with the help of 3 Arabs.
Guess what happened?
The FCC was more interested in how it was done than who it was done to.
So, short of sending telecommands to a SatCom bird or telling the USSS to "Suck eggs thru a flavored straw" on 160 MHz, the FCC is not going to do anything.
This almost tempts me to give my call, but because i'm not operating an amateur station, it constitutes abuse of the issued call.

I will say that it would be a blast to mess with the USSS! I can see them going crazy while they get a good mind screw!
"Suck eggs through a flavored straw" would be the least of it!

And, why not send tele-commands to a satcom bird? A little harmless mischief can be fun!
Hello.

Notice that I pointed that out last, and said short of?
A good mind warp on the local police is one thing.

[K8MHZ]

Quote[/b] (Guest @ April 09 2007,01:15)]Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ April 08 2007,19:07)]Hello.

This is QRZ, not OTA.
In some ways bad, in some ways good.
What I can say is this, IF the FCC wanted to go after somebody, it takes forever.
We had people who were anything but PC, jamming USCG and police freq's in California, that took years.
We have one ham who decided to play air traffic controller for a day with an old VHF AM radio, he got an arse chew and that was it.
In San Antonio Texas, somebody turned the Motorola smartnet radios on and off like christmas tree lights with a virtual type II dispatch console.
This was done with the help of 3 Arabs.
Guess what happened?
The FCC was more interested in how it was done than who it was done to.
So, short of sending telecommands to a SatCom bird or telling the USSS to "Suck eggs thru a flavored straw" on 160 MHz, the FCC is not going to do anything.
This almost tempts me to give my call, but because i'm not operating an amateur station, it constitutes abuse of the issued call.

I will say that it would be a blast to mess with the USSS! I can see them going crazy while they get a good mind screw!
"Suck eggs through a flavored straw" would be the least of it!

And, why not send tele-commands to a satcom bird? A little harmless mischief can be fun!
Sounds to me like you don't deserve a license.

Screwing with people using a radio doesn't need one anyway, it's called CB. #

This hobby has no room for people who's only interest is to see how much they can get away with.

Expect little support from licensed hams in your endeavors that include harassment of others. #Not only is it illegal but it is childish and very moronic.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

I agree to some degree.
Even with CB, there should be limits.
But, to make this clear, the guy in California, is in the federal pen for a few years.
http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin....=132812 (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=3;t=132812)
The case of the San Antonio police radio was a controlled exercise.
And, the USSS? trust me, 7 years would be the teaser, more like 99 years.
But, one can get in trouble for OTA squabbles.
http://www2.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2006/0317.html
So, decide how far you think you can go, but remember, you do not get to pick your cell mates.

[KC2ESD]

Could the "Guest" be VE7...... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD6NIG]

Strong opinions. Well, if the opinions require the use of the 'heavy 7' then yeah, probably.

Either that or not identifying for a long while as some people tend to do during said opinions.

I'm guessing some people have huge cooling fans strapped to their radios to avoid burning stuff up http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I don't think its the content (unless it contains what I said above), its more than people are getting caught for other stuff. Intentional QRM and the like.

But who knows, it is the FCC, they do issue the license, and what they issue, they can also take away http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[k7kwh]

I presume our omnipotent leader Fred has banned KKKarol by IP address, not by callsign only....

K7KWH

[ka5piu]

Hello.

IP address ban is nothing.
Very few people have a static ISP address, and the MAC address can be changed in an instant.
Short of banning an entire ISP this does not create much of a problem, and even than, one can always sign up for another ISP or do proxy surfing.