Break?

Getting A Word In Is Like Trying To Get On The Freeway, Kind Of Hard: I thought asking for a break ment you could go in there to mention something without waiting till the end of a qso which can be a half hour away. The repeater I know of is one of those that could care less unless they had a emergency.

Is it now that the rules are to be forgotten while transmitting so the people running it really never have to worry of anything as long as their radios are turned on. Driving on to a freeway is very much like getting on a repeater, of course you don't have to look in many directions at once.

Then There Are Those Who Just Jump In For Their Turn, They Can't wait or ask for a break, no time like NOW, something like the "CHP" could be implemented someday to listen in on those who can't hear a break, and/or can't listen. Sometimes I wounder if my radio is working as I Say break and ...

but listening helps -- where as a person like a car just come's in -- no waiting, its not their way to wait on others.
Now I see why Morse Code Should away's be with us so The Amateur Service Will Stay Pure Unlike c.b. which is lost. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[KB9YFI]

In my opinion saying "break" should only be reserved for emergencies on the amateur bands. This is not 11-meters. If you want to join into a QSO then throw your call in between transmissions. If the stations want to talk to you then they may invite you in to their conversation. Don't feel bad if they don't because that is their right. I get annoyed when people use "break" to bust into my QSO. I always say something like. "Go ahead station with the EMERGENCY TRAFFIC. The frequency is yours." That usually embarrasses them enough to stop that awful practice. "Break" is reserved for emergencies. Remember the little boy who cried wolf?

Jim - KB9YFI

[N7CPC]

Strictly speaking, the term "break" is reserved for emergencies in the concept of repeater usage.

I find that when I just can't help myself and must butt into a conversation, the term "brake" works well and cannot be deemed "improper".

Hope this helps.

73

[KB9YFI]

Well, as long as you are sure to say "brake" instead of "break" you will be OK and the conversationalists will know you do not have any emergency traffic. We wouldn't want to confuse people here and/or QRM a legal QSO between licensed operators on the ham bands. It seems that a lot of amateurs are non compus mentis when operating on the air and/or while posting on QRZ.

Jim - KB9YFI

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Getting A Word In Is Like Trying To Get On The Freeway[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

When I have trouble getting on the freeway, I find the accelerator far more useful then the brake...

[AC7UX]

the load thunderous roar of my hog and a crack of the throttle and one look from this big burly biker, usually gets me into traffic on the freeway.

[AC7UX]

ceteris peribus De futuro Ei incumbit probatio qui In omnibus Coram non judice Ex cathedra Ipso facto Quaeitur Re Non compus mentis Id est De facto Vice versa

[KB9YFI]

And then I have to find a new route home because the village banned bikes from its roads after 9PM. Some hairy atavistic Harley rider with straight pipes was popping his loud thunderous roars and the grannies in the pink houses got sick of it. Thanks! -I hope the posing got you the skanky biker chick because all it got me was a much longer drive home on my quiet Honda VFR and one less place I can ride.

Jim - KB9YFI

[K9STH]

For UX:

Gallia est divisos in tres partes.

amo, amas, amant, amantis, amantis, amant

Glen, K9STH

[AC7UX]

Your grannies live on the freeway in pink houses in wisconsin? thats terrible! somebody should do something to save those poor grannies. I think people in wisconsin should start a group called rice riders for grannies. the RRG`s could lobby the legislature there and raise taxes to help get the grannies good housing off the freeways and out of the median. amateur operators could network repeaters in the area and help any grannies blown over and can`t get up by large 18 wheel trucks while they tend their gardens in the median. this is an outrage that in this great country we have grannies living like this in wisconsin. We live in citys here in arizona and grannies are treated with respect, mostly because we love`um and because they pack 45s here. gun totin` grannies here wouldn`t let no 18 wheeler blow them over, no sirry bob. we build whole citys for our grannies. give`um names like sun-city and pleasure world. by gum we got some well cared for grannies here, we do. having harley-davidson in your blood and in your soul don`t skip a generation. it goes right on through the gene pool. helps keep ya immune to rice ya know. 73 to you boys out in wisconsin and it`s 1Ø:ØØ P.M. do you know where your grannie is?

[KB1GYQ]

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Hey.... this is supposted to be &quot;family safe&quot; (whatever that means); take you talk of mistresses elsewhere... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[AC7UX]

For UX:

Gallia est divisos in tres partes.

amo, amas, amant, amantis, amantis, amant
#very good glen! and your right. it seems in retrospect the present direction of the writings seems to have a bitter edge to it. you must have had catholic nuns rapping your knuckles when you went to school. your message has been received, 599.

[K9STH]

For GYQ: I have two vices, wild women and old radios. My wife won't let me bring home any wild women, so I have a fairly extensive antique/vintage radio collection and lots of &quot;boat anchors&quot;! Besides, I just gave the conjugation of a Latin verb! If you don't believe my story about old radios, take a look at my web page

http://home.attbi.com/~k9sth

For UX: Never went to Catholic schools (was raised in the Free Methodist Church in northern Indiana). However, I took several years of Latin in high school because it was supposed to help with understanding English (and with several of the &quot;Romance&quot; languages as well). Actually, it really did help with English, although, since I have lived in Texas for over 35 years (since I graduated from Georgia Tech in April of 1967), Spanish probably would have done a lot more for me. I can still handle a little bit of written Latin, Spanish, French, and Romansch (the Latin dialect that about 3 percent of the citizens of Switzerland speak).

Now, for those who don't understand &quot;Gallia est divisos in tres partes&quot;: This is the opening line from Julius Caesar's &quot;Commentary on the Gallic Wars&quot;. Although a very &quot;conceated&quot; self-promoting disertation by Caesar on his battles and such in France, Germany, Spain, and Britain, it is considered one of the best historically correct works of the first century BC.

How we got here from the original topic, probably only Caesar knows!

Glen, K9STH

[ke5wj]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ Aug. 11 2002,00:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How we got here from the original topic, probably only Caesar knows![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Is that the same guy that's famous for salads?

[K9STH]

For WJ: #&quot;Beware the Ides of March&quot;! #&quot;Take my wife, please&quot;!

Glen, K9STH

[K6UEY]

Posibbly some one can enlighten me, for several decades the use of the word break injected into a QSO was thought to mean you wanted to get their attention,usually followed by a call sign, and when a pause in the QSO occured,then upon recognition you would proceed with what ever your intentions were, to request entry into the QSO or maybe to ask directions or to add abit of info concerning the QSO. #The use of multiple break was to denote an Emergency or a priority situation,usually a triple break was the recognized signature for priority traffic but any multiple break was to be recognized.
From some of the previously posted comments I get the impression that operating procedures have been changed.
I have observed on some of the higher frequencies many of the established operating procedures are no longer followed by some of the newer Hams. Instead they have installed their own set of operating procedures to use on the air. I am not against change in fact if it improves a procedure to the benefit of all concerned, that is commonly called progress,but if it is a change simply for the sake of change that can divide and confuse the patricipants and degrade the service. In as much as Ham Radio deals with communication it would seem that a procedure that is established and proven for decades would be the most efficient and fastest way to handle emergency traffic as all involved would be familiar with what is required of them.
If for some reason I have been asleep at the switch and missed the upgrade could some one please enlighten me.
Enjoy!! Life is too short for QRP.........73, # ORV

[KD7LDH]

My cat's name is mittens

[ke5wj]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ Aug. 11 2002,16<!--emo&amp;http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Posibbly some one can enlighten me, for several decades the use of the word break injected into a QSO was thought to mean you wanted to get their attention,usually followed by a call sign, and when a pause in the QSO occured,then upon recognition you would proceed with what ever your intentions were, to request entry into the QSO or maybe to ask directions or to add abit of info concerning the QSO. #The use of multiple break was to denote an Emergency or a priority situation,usually a triple break was the recognized signature for priority traffic but any multiple break was to be recognized.
From some of the previously posted comments I get the impression that operating procedures have been changed.
I have observed on some of the higher frequencies many of the established operating procedures are no longer followed by some of the newer Hams. Instead they have installed their own set of operating procedures to use on the air. I am not against change in fact if it improves a procedure to the benefit of all concerned, that is commonly called progress,but if it is a change simply for the sake of change that can divide and confuse the patricipants and degrade the service. In as much as Ham Radio deals with communication it would seem that a procedure that is established and proven for decades would be the most efficient and fastest way to handle emergency traffic as all involved would be familiar with what is required of them.
If for some reason I have been asleep at the switch and missed the upgrade could some one please enlighten me.
Enjoy!! Life is too short for QRP.........73, # ORV[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You're right. It seems that some of the new guys have changed their rules and want to convince everyone it's the real thing. So be it. Of course on FM repeaters, &quot;break&quot; isn't used, and that has been that way for a long time.

One person brags about saying &quot;go ahead the person with the emergency&quot; in response to #&quot;break&quot;. I guess they think it's cute and don't care what most everyone else thinks. Or maybe they're just talking about repeaters, in which case, who cares?

On HF &quot;break&quot; has been an accepted way to get into an on-going QSO or interrupt a net with traffic. It causes less confusion to say 1 syllable than to give an entire call sign.

73, but we're showing our age,

[W0LPQ]

Sometime in the mid to late 70's I noticed that the Break term was slowly being supplanted.

In most service nets, MidCars, EastCars, SouthCars, WestCars and others, the term Break is used to denote an emergency.

Those nets prefer you use Contact if you hear someone or the word Comment if you want to inject something to a conversation.

Many people who do utilize these service nets almost automatically do not use Break anymore. Not that it is bad, but agree that things have changed in the last 15 years or more.

73

Bill, W0LPQ

[KB1GYQ]

Yup! Somebody decided that &quot;break&quot; sounded too much like CB... Such is life.

Methinks the ticks have taken over the dog.

[KC9CFB]

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(After being soaked in fake blood) &quot;I look like cable TV!&quot;
&quot;Me fail english? That's unpossible!&quot;

[n0xu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ Aug. 09 2002,19:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">amo, amas, amant, amantis, amantis, amant[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Veni, Vedi, Vegi: I came, I saw, I had a salad...

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n0xu @ Aug. 11 2002,23:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ Aug. 09 2002,19:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">amo, amas, amant, amantis, amantis, amant[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Veni, Vedi, Vegi: I came, I saw, I had a salad...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well, I guess we can let Caesar back into the discussing now, just make sure he's done getting dressed.

On another subject, cutting skin sores into three parts does not often help.

[N7CPC]

My cat's name is Mark Anthony.

73

[WB2GOF]

So is a famous Latin-American Singer.

[KD7LDH]

The doctor said my nose would stop bleeding if I stoped picking it

[KD7LDH]

&quot;I tried soap once but it left a funny after taste&quot;

[ka1kjz]

&quot;My cat's breath smells like cat food&quot;

[KC2JCA]

I have read through this entire thread and I have decided that yours was the best contribution to the whole thing.

73, Jim - kc2jca

[VA7KBH]

In Canada use of the word &quot;break&quot; is encouraged for use in emergencies to break into conversations.... to jump in to a QSO that is not an emergency or priority message, we are encouraged to use &quot;contact&quot;

VA7KBH

[N7CPC]

My cat's breath smells like the neighbor's hamster. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

73

[KB1GYQ]

My dog's breath smells of cat with hamster breath... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[VE6DDT]

Man ! Am I ever glad we don't have to phoenetize in Latin http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Victor Echo 6 Darn Darn Tootin'

[K9STH]

For DDT:

I hope the environmentalists don't go after you. You know how they hate DDT!

Glen, K9STH