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kn4ds
03-30-2007, 07:03 PM
Saw this on the Georgia Section ARRL site today and thought I'd share it here:

The FCC took what they described as an important new step to reduce QRM on amateur frequencies by setting standards for voice speeds. The docket #200-4U will become official in the Part 97 amateur regulations effective 1 April 2007.

Citing frequent complaints about "long, boring conversations" on the ham bands, especially 75 meters, the Commission moved to impose a new standard on voice operations requiring all conversations to be at a speed of "at least 200 spoken words-per-minute".

The Commission in its ruling was especially critical of what they called "long winded, often endless conversations by old men talking about their prostate problems and other needs to get up and go to the bathroom several times during the night".

FCC staffers say they have personally heard conversations about nothing that went for hours and tied up frequencies that could be used by faster talkers.

Official Observer stations have received instructions to listen to suspect conversations and count the number of words-per-minute spoken. Those QSOs which fail to meet the minimum speed requirements will be noted and the operators involved will receive Official Observer Advisory Notices encouraging them to follow the rules or risk receiving notice of apparent violation citations from the FCC.

Some hams in southern states complained the new regulation will impose a burden on them because they naturally talk more slowly than those up north. They are suggesting that frequencies be set aside for slow speed discussions concerning favorite country music artists (particularly Don Williams), NASCAR, huntin' and fishin' (particularly bass and brim). FCC says it may consider that in future rulemaking.

In a separate press release, the American Radio Relay League said they are also concerned about two-meter operation where little is discussed except "full quieting and items to be picked up on the way home". The League said that sort of thing is boring and is usually spoken very slowly as well, far below the 200 words-per-minute minimum. The League suggested conversations on how to help raise more money for League activities would be especially welcomed and will be encouraged. Future issues of QST will contain special pull-out sections containing recommended topics for on-air discussion to brighten up QSOs.

(originally from MIKE COMBS, K4LMS, and shared by PAT HAYNES, K4BEH, and saved for many months, just so it could be used in this.... The APRIL issue of our newsletter)

WA2ZDY
03-31-2007, 12:47 AM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Two days early OM.

AG3Y
03-31-2007, 02:49 AM
You know, I have been working the ham bands for over 25 years, and have never ONCE heard "endless conversations by old men talking about their prostate problems and other needs to get up and go to the bathroom several times during the night".

That just amazes me. . . . . am I listening to the wrong frequencies ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

73, Jim

N2RJ
03-31-2007, 02:53 AM
And in other news, KKKarol stops transmitting hate speech on 14.275 and Glenn Baxter is allowed to broadcast again.

N6EAG
03-31-2007, 03:44 AM
What is with this?

Every year the "holidays" come earlier and earlier. I was not prepared. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

ki4rhh
03-31-2007, 05:22 AM
I have heard some long winded chat, but at the same time I have never heard of not having an open frequency to talk in. I mean come on if Joe whats to talk about the price of tea in china then so be it, there is plenty of band for everyone, and if not maybe the FCC should give us some more.

As far as 2 meter gose, good luck. We hold a nightly rag chew, its about the only way you ge anyone to talk.


The real sucker in this whole thing is the guy who has to count words and time them, makes me want to mess with them. Needless to say I dont think this will make it, not that I dont think they wont make the rule, but enforcing it is going to be funny and hard at best

KB2SFH
03-31-2007, 12:57 PM
I saw that article a while back, it will never fly however true it really is.

K4MSM
03-31-2007, 01:02 PM
ki4rhh........

Uhhhhhhh, are you serious? Or was your post 'tongue in cheek'?

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

kn4ds
03-31-2007, 02:36 PM
Quote[/b] (K4MSM @ Mar. 31 2007,08:02)]Uhhhhhhh, are you serious? Or was your post 'tongue in cheek'?
Does make you wonder, doesn't it?

kb2vxa
03-31-2007, 04:01 PM
For once :blush: Sue KB2SFH is right on the mark, I saw that in the April edition of Q Street years ago.

"Or was your post 'tongue in cheek'?"

Never mind the tongues, some people are still looking for their brains. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Meanwhile check my avatar.

Elvis has left the building.

KB2SFH
04-01-2007, 01:38 AM
Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ Mar. 31 2007,12:01)]For once #:blush: #Sue KB2SFH is right on the mark, I saw that in the April edition of Q Street years ago.

Elvis has left the building.
I had it sent to me in an email somewhat recently within the past year, can't remember and I can't remember if kept it either.

Biscuithead has left the building, the town, the county, the state and the company to keep coming back for more abuse.

ai4ep
04-01-2007, 01:43 AM
I guess that means that I have to start telling the short version of stories....?

04-01-2007, 02:17 AM
I do not see what the problem is with compliance! These stations give their callsign at 300 words per minute, why would you think they can't conform to the proposed new rule?

Frank

KC7UP
04-01-2007, 03:31 AM
I think we have an april fools joke going on.
Curt

kn4ds
04-01-2007, 03:41 AM
Quote[/b] (KC7UP @ Mar. 31 2007,22:31)]I think we have an april fools joke going on.
Noooo... really?

KB0LPI
04-01-2007, 03:41 AM
So I can still talk about my prostate if I do it at better than 200wpm? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

ae4tr
04-01-2007, 11:10 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # Will this apply to CW also. #It's gonna make me sweat to send and receive at a speed of 200 wpm. #
Ratts!! and I was doing so well.

kb2vxa
04-01-2007, 11:37 AM
Hi again,

"I had it sent to me in an email somewhat recently within the past year, can't remember and I can't remember if kept it either."

Someone sent me a link to a site that had one about getting a license in a box of corn flakes. I don't need video, I KNOW Sue is grinning ear to ear.

Uh oh, I'm beginning to see a connection to Battle Creek Michigan but you old curmudgeons will just have to Post your comments here. (Maybe Kellogg should have stuck to making telephones.)

"Will this apply to CW also. It's gonna make me sweat to send and receive at a speed of 200 wpm.
Ratts!! and I was doing so well."

I never heard of that program but WSJT will serve nicely since you just CAN'T drink enough coffee.

KB2SFH
04-01-2007, 06:09 PM
Quote[/b] (kb2vxa @ April 01 2007,07:37)]Someone sent me a link to a site that had one about getting a license in a box of corn flakes. I don't need video, I KNOW Sue is grinning ear to ear.

Uh oh, I'm beginning to see a connection to Battle Creek Michigan but you old curmudgeons will just have to Post your comments here. (Maybe Kellogg should have stuck to making telephones.)
I'm not grinning ear to ear.

Why didn't I get a link too? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
:::feeling left out::: http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif