Does anybody really care who upgraded to General?

[kg4kww]

Do you all really care who has upgraded to general?

[W3MIV]

I'm keeping a list.

[NN4RH]

No.

Does anyone care that I don't care?

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,18:33)]Do you all really care who has upgraded to general?
Yes Greg. In spite of what you and Eric think, most currently licensed amateurs are pretty decent fellows, and we want everyone to enjoy the privileges they wish to pursue.

There are exceptions, but like almost 16 years ago now, most hams treated this (one of the very first) no-code technician quite well. Of course, I don't think there was a QRZ available for quick bashing of your fellow hams.

In March of 1991, I began my amateur career as KD4KWT. I believe the no-code technician class was created that February. There were very few of us at that time.

Keep me up to speed on your upgrade situation if you will.

It's because I care who upgrades to general or extra.

Later, and 73,
Luke

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (NN4RH @ Feb. 27 2007,18:38)]No.

Does anyone care that I don't care?
Nope, not in the least! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[kg4kww]

OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.

[af2cw]

Congratulations Greg! Hit the hamfests, you'll find something to get you on the air at a good price I'm sure.

[N7RJD]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Feb. 27 2007,09:37)]I'm keeping a list.
And checking it twice?

[w7act]

Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Feb. 27 2007,08:58)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Feb. 27 2007,09:37)]I'm keeping a list.
And checking it twice?
and seeing who's naughty and nice!!!!!!!!


As a new General could care less.

[KC9ECI]

I don't care who upgrades or not. #The more that upgrade, the more that I can work in contests.


Greg-

Here's a list of inexpensive HF gear:

HF Radio $139.95 (http://www.ohr.com/ohr100a.htm)

20, 40, or 30 meter transmitter for $39. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=QRP-SERIES)

20, 40, or 30 meter amplifier for $49. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=QAMP)

20, 40, or 30 meter receiver for $39. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=HR-SERIES)

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Pixie-2-QRP-Transceiver-7-040MHZ-40-Meters_W0QQitemZ220057001996QQihZ012QQcategoryZ467 4QQr


dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">40M Transceiver $23 and shipping</a>

[KA4DPO]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,18:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
That's great, congratulations.

Now if they can just get electricity in Mechanicsville.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,16:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
Tell the OL spring/summer will be late this year.....lets get the gear NOW!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kd7msc]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,08:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
The bands are dead anyways. Pun intended. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif See ya on the air Greg.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,15:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
Man, you are whipped!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[wb4old]

I do not care as long as they do not burn the frys

[N7RJD]

Quote[/b] (KC0OFZ @ Feb. 27 2007,13:03)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,16:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
Tell the OL spring/summer will be late this year.....lets get the gear NOW!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Hard sell with daylight savings time coming early this year. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (KC9ECI @ Feb. 27 2007,17:59)]I don't care who upgrades or not. The more that upgrade, the more that I can work in contests.


Greg-

Here's a list of inexpensive HF gear:

HF Radio $139.95 (http://www.ohr.com/ohr100a.htm)

20, 40, or 30 meter transmitter for $39. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=QRP-SERIES)

20, 40, or 30 meter amplifier for $49. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=QAMP)

20, 40, or 30 meter receiver for $39. (http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&key=HR-SERIES)

<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Pixie-2-QRP-Transceiver-7-040MHZ-40-Meters_W0QQitemZ220057001996QQihZ012QQcategoryZ467 4QQr



dZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_blank">40M Transceiver $23 and shipping</a>
You're a sick man, ECI. (And my hero).

[kn4ds]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Feb. 27 2007,23:56)]Remember a good amateur is well rounded.
And if you don't believe it, look around at a club meeting or hamfest... most of us are quite well rounded.

[AB8XA]

I AM in shape--round IS a shape!

[W0BKR]

No. #Once the /AG goes away, with the receipt of the actual license, it becomes moot. #Life is too short to worry about mundane stuff like that...

Do wonder if "Fog Boy" did or is he still spewing acid?

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (KE7DLG @ Feb. 27 2007,21:28)]Quote[/b] (KC0OFZ @ Feb. 27 2007,13:03)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,16:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
Tell the OL spring/summer will be late this year.....lets get the gear NOW!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Hard sell with daylight savings time coming early this year. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Hey, it is worth a try. I am trying to get the OM some new gear here.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Feb. 27 2007,21:56)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Feb. 27 2007,21:41)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,15:45)]OK, here's the dirt (get it UT, humor)
I took the plunge and yes I did upgrade
last Sat. Don't know how long it takes to show up
in the FCC data base, but I have CSCE which I'm now
proudly carrying with me when I travel.

No, I don't have HF gear and won't for a while as my OL needs a new Spring/Summer Wardrobe.

At least that's what she says.
Man, you are whipped!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Whipped? Maybe. Keep the XYL or YL happy, and you may enjoy more #dancing between the bedclothes! Treat the wife like a thoroughbred, and she will never grow to be an old nag.

Sometimes you have to come out of that shack and pursue other activities. Remember a good amateur is well rounded. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Is that why I donated a part of my shack to her scrapbooking stuff? I knew there was a motive to be so nice. Sure could have used that room for more radios.....

[kn4ds]

Quote[/b] (wb4old @ Feb. 27 2007,23:26)]I do not care as long as they do not burn the frys
I'll be more than happy to make your fries any way you want 'em.

Just stop in any ol' time. And I promise not to drop your burger on the floor!

You're absolutely correct. Every one of us at that test session in Warner Robins on Saturday are too stupid to have jobs doing anything else.

So, if I can get the time off, can I look forward to meeting you next Thursday night at the CGARC meeting?

[N2RJ]

I don't care about who upgraded to General or Extra. In fact I am fully in support of getting rid of incentive licensing completely and having just one license.

[KC7ATO]

"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"..."I have a dream that one day all ham ops will have the same privileges and learn to get along with each other ............


ack:MLK

[kg4kww]

I'm also trying to get the XYL to upgrade to General too,but, so far no luck. So, I put my General Book and notes under the sheets on her side of the bed before I left on a biz trip, hoping to leave her a big hint.

HRO has the IC7000 for 1299 this would make a nice moble rig but, downfall is no built in ant tuner.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 28 2007,10:08)]I'm also trying to get the XYL to upgrade to General too,but, so far no luck. So, I put my General Book and notes under the sheets on her side of the bed before I left on a biz trip, hoping to leave her a big hint.

HRO has the IC7000 for 1299 this would make a nice moble rig but, downfall is no built in ant tuner.
...and you got back and found a copy of GQ and Body Builder on your side?

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 28 2007,12:08)]HRO has the IC7000 for 1299 this would make a nice moble rig but, downfall is no built in ant tuner.
Get an LDG tuner which plugs in to the tuner port. It's less than $200.

It will match up to 10:1 SWR and has memories to retune instantly.

I have one. It's really nice to set up a station in a pinch.

Yes tuners are lossy but it's better than reflecting all of that power into your finals.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (KC7ATO @ Feb. 28 2007,12:07)]"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"..."I have a dream that one day all ham ops will have the same privileges and learn to get along with each other ............


ack:MLK
Thanks for completely insulting the civil rights movement. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[ab1ga]

Quote[/b] (KC7ATO @ Feb. 28 2007,12:07)]"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"
The Morse Code test equivalent to slavery, lynching, disenfranchisement, etc?

That's a hell of a bogeyman some folks made of a fairly simple test. Might be a bit of an obsession going on here...

[KI4ITV]

Congratulations Greg!
Yea, some of us do care. Come operate HF in VA QSOP with the club station. I plan on being there for at least a little while that weekend too.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (ab1ga @ Feb. 28 2007,12:42)]Quote[/b] (KC7ATO @ Feb. 28 2007,12:07)]"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"
The Morse Code test equivalent to slavery, lynching, disenfranchisement, etc?

That's a hell of a bogeyman some folks made of a fairly simple test. Might be a bit of an obsession going on here...
I would agree to that. This is really a stretch....whatever I guess.

[kg4kww]

Ok, Trey if I'm able and in town.

Also, I'm considering a Screwdriver ant for the car. I here they tune to freq and are real good.

[K7JEM]

Quote[/b] (KC0OFZ @ Feb. 28 2007,16:17)]Quote[/b] (ab1ga @ Feb. 28 2007,12:42)]Quote[/b] (KC7ATO @ Feb. 28 2007,12:07)]"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"
The Morse Code test equivalent to slavery, lynching, disenfranchisement, etc?

That's a hell of a bogeyman some folks made of a fairly simple test. Might be a bit of an obsession going on here...
I would agree to that. This is really a stretch....whatever I guess.
Yes, it's kind of like those guys who were comparing hams who don't take a code test to doctors that cheat on exams.

The general test, including the code, has never been as difficult as studying or learning material required to pass a single eight grade midterm test for one subject. Yet many people want to gloat, cry, whine, complain, get mad, or otherwise concern themselves emotionally about a change made to that simple test.

Joe

[k0ews]

Does it matter to me who upgraded? Heck no! I'll work anyone I hear on the bands. Of course, I'm a CW operator, but if I hear you, I'll work you!

[KG4RUL]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,12:33)]Do you all really care who has upgraded to general?
You know, I don't care either. But then, I upgraded from Technician to Extra. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Dennis KG4RUL

[KC9ECI]

Quote[/b] (KG4RUL @ Feb. 28 2007,22:18)]Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 27 2007,12:33)]Do you all really care who has upgraded to general?
You know, I don't care either. #But then, I upgraded from Technician to Extra. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Dennis KG4RUL
Me too...with a stop at general for around a year or so.

[kg4kww]

Well from all the flack I took about upgrading, you would never know that people don't care.

[kg4kww]

I hear that the ARRL is putting some long hours processing all the upgrades. This is good.

I just looked at a Tarheal Antenna and they are nice, pricey but, nice.

ARRL Story (http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2007/02/28/101/?nc=1)

[ai4ep]

Why does it take the ARRL so long ?

Are some of the answers not spelled correctly ( like some of my posts ) ??

[ai4ep]

I need more folks to talk to on HF any way.

Those roundtable discussions can always hold a couple more folks .

[KC0OFZ]

Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Feb. 28 2007,17:27)]Quote[/b] (KC0OFZ @ Feb. 28 2007,16:17)]Quote[/b] (ab1ga @ Feb. 28 2007,12:42)]Quote[/b] (KC7ATO @ Feb. 28 2007,12:07)]"Free at last..Free at last...Thank the FCC Almighty were FREE of Element 1 at last"
The Morse Code test equivalent to slavery, lynching, disenfranchisement, etc?

That's a hell of a bogeyman some folks made of a fairly simple test. Might be a bit of an obsession going on here...
I would agree to that. #This is really a stretch....whatever I guess.
Yes, it's kind of like those guys who were comparing hams who don't take a code test to doctors that cheat on exams.

The general test, including the code, has never been as difficult as studying or learning material required to pass a single eight grade midterm test for one subject. Yet many people want to gloat, cry, whine, complain, get mad, or otherwise concern themselves emotionally about a change made to that simple test.

Joe
At least you admit the tests are not hard...they sure as heck want them gone though.

[kn4ds]

Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Mar. 01 2007,19:43)]Why does it take the ARRL so long ?
It took until tonight for the info from Saturday's session here locally to show up on ULS.

ARRL claims they actually feel the need to review session paperwork before keying it directly to the FCC database.

I remember having to wait 10 days in 1995 before I got my call. I know there were 2 new Techs out of the Saturday session, so they had to wait, what, 5-6 days?

[N8CPA]

Congratulations, Greg. Now, someday, if the devil is ever in need of a snow shovel, we can work each other on 40 CW.

[KL7FZ]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Feb. 28 2007,10:08)]I'm also trying to get the XYL to upgrade to General too,but, so far no luck. So, I put my General Book and notes under the sheets on her side of the bed before I left on a biz trip, hoping to leave her a big hint.

HRO has the IC7000 for 1299 this would make a nice moble rig but, downfall is no built in ant tuner.
A traveling mortician??

Our motto is "You die...We Fly!" # Haw!

KL7FZ

[ad4mg]

Greg,

Congratulations on the upgrade. I can't help out with any working hf rigs, but if you need to borrow a tuner for use at home, I have an MFJ 200 watt (949?) tuner you are welcome to borrow.

Also, I can suggest any number of inexpensive wire antennas that will get you on the air. I can furnish you with some drawings of the antennas I use here. My most useful antenna is an 80 meter dipole fed with 450 ohm ladder line which works well on all bands from 80-10. If you don't have that much room (~ 132' end to end), a 40 meter version would work well from 40-10 meters.

Best 73,
Luke

[W0BKR]

I didn't upgrade...

[K7JEM]

Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Mar. 02 2007,10:56)]I didn't upgrade...
Slacker http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Mar. 02 2007,13:06)]Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Mar. 02 2007,10:56)]I didn't upgrade...
Slacker http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I guess I'm a slacker since I never upgraded too! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[W0BKR]

Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Mar. 02 2007,11:09)]Quote[/b] (K7JEM @ Mar. 02 2007,13:06)]Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Mar. 02 2007,10:56)]I didn't upgrade...
Slacker #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I guess I'm a slacker since I never upgraded too! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I'm going for my Extra Plus....
Just got to find time to study...

[ka5piu]

Hello.

I care.
I did mine around December. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Amateur Extra?
Why not just call it Extra?
Is there another radio service that this might get mixed up with?
There is the General Mobile Radio Service.
There is the General Radio Operators License.
There is the General class of Amateur license.
Guess who has what?

[kg4kww]

Quote[/b] ]KE4UWL--It took until tonight for the info from Saturday's session here locally to show up on ULS.


What does ULS stand for?

And what's the website name?

[kg4kww]

I just checked under QRZ.COM and my upgrade hasn't been posted to the FCC DataBase. How long will it take to show up?

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2007,03:51)]I just checked under QRZ.COM and my upgrade hasn't been posted to the FCC DataBase. How long will it take to show up?
Greg,

It depends on the VE team. With the backlog, it may take a week or more.

Right now the ULS system is down!

73,
Luke

[N8CPA]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2007,04:48)]Quote[/b] ]KE4UWL--It took until tonight for the info from Saturday's session here locally to show up on ULS.


What does ULS stand for?

And what's the website name?
ULS is the Universal Licensing System. It can be accessed via FCC.gov.

[n2nh]

Congratulations Greg. Hope to work you on HF when I get the skyhook up.

"Does anybody really care who upgraded to General?"

Heck yes. Especially after all the b*tching and moaning about the code element, everybody should be upgrading ASAP. It's like those guys who were jumping and shouting about 'elite' websites and crying to get on them. Then when they were opened up, they didn't.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[kn4ds]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 03 2007,03:51)]I just checked under QRZ.COM and my upgrade hasn't been posted to the FCC DataBase. How long will it take to show up?
QRZ.com is updated from the FCC database, so it'll lag the FCC database by a few hours. For example, the upgrades and new licensees from a test session here last Saturday showed up on the the FCC database (ULS - Universal Licensing System) on Thursday evening, but didn't show up here on QRZ until afternoon on Friday.

License search is down for maintenance right now, but you'd click this to get license info straight from the FCC (http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=home).

[kg4kww]

My upgrade has just shown up on the FCC data base but not on QRZ. Interesting.

[k5xit]

Just don't dumb the test down any more. With the question pool to review anybody can pass. I think the incentive lilcensing is a pretty good carrot. Let the guys that want a little extra have it for passing Extra. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W0BKR]

You can call them also and if they acknowledged your upgrade, you can start operating under it. The paper that comes in the mail finalizes it.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (KE4UWL @ Mar. 03 2007,09:22)]QRZ.com is updated from the FCC database, so it'll lag the FCC database by a few hours. For example, the upgrades and new licensees from a test session here last Saturday showed up on the the FCC database (ULS - Universal Licensing System) on Thursday evening, but didn't show up here on QRZ until afternoon on Friday.
It's not a few hours, more like overnight.

I believe QRZ.com pulls the data from the FCC nightly. It's not real time.

[K7JEM]

Quote[/b] (W0BKR @ Mar. 07 2007,14:16)]You can call them also and if they acknowledged your upgrade, you can start operating under it. The paper that comes in the mail finalizes it.
You're good once the FCC has your upgrade in the ULS database. No need to receive a paper license. You can drop the /AE or AG as soon as it appears online.

Joe

[N4AUD]

Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Mar. 07 2007,16:36)]My upgrade has just shown up on the FCC data base but not on QRZ. Interesting.
When do you think you'll be on HF? I can work Richmond easily on 75 meters.

[kg4kww]

Not sure, I'm going to look at some hamfests to see about finding a good price on a IC-7000

[kg4kww]

I like these TarHeel Antennas.
Check them out: http://www.tarheelantennas.com