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KE5IUE
02-26-2007, 10:29 PM
Does anyone know who owns the 146.700 Reapeater in the DFW area?

N2VWW
02-26-2007, 10:43 PM
What is the call on the repeater? Go to the ULS website and look up the call.

Gary n2vww

N5FOG
02-26-2007, 11:12 PM
Stephen

The trustee of any repeater coordinated in texas can be found on the Texas VHF FM societies homepage www.txvhffm.org and click repeater search.

It shows two repeaters listed in dallas on 146.700.

DALLAS W5BOH 146.700 DALAMTPA
DALLAS W5EBQ 146.700

One of the biggest problems with the TX VHF Society is the issue of “paper” repeaters (a repeater that is off the air but the owner/trustee claims it is still on the air to keep from loosing his frequency coordination).

So the database may show a listing for a repeater that hasn’t been on the air for years. This has become a hotly debated topic recently with people wanting to put up new repeaters who are being told there is no frequency pairs available when in fact there are several free but are being occupied by “paper” repeaters, especially in the DFW area.



FOG

WA9SVD
02-27-2007, 12:34 AM
Quote[/b] (Kc5fog @ Feb. 26 2007,16:12)]Stephen

The trustee of any repeater coordinated in texas can be found on the Texas VHF FM societies homepage www.txvhffm.org and click repeater search.

It shows two repeaters listed in dallas on 146.700.

DALLAS W5BOH 146.700 DALAMTPA
DALLAS W5EBQ 146.700

One of the biggest problems with the TX VHF Society is the issue of “paper” repeaters (a repeater that is off the air but the owner/trustee claims it is still on the air to keep from loosing his frequency coordination).

So the database may show a listing for a repeater that hasn’t been on the air for years. This has become a hotly debated topic recently with people wanting to put up new repeaters who are being told there is no frequency pairs available when in fact there are several free but are being occupied by “paper” repeaters, especially in the DFW area.



FOG
It's (the "paper repeater") not just a problem in the DFW area.
Sadly, there are some hams that seem to find pleasure in tying up a repeater pair, (often MANY repeater pairs are issued to a single individual) even if they do not have, or even plan to have, a functioning repeater. (Or it's so private, there are only one or two users.)
Unfortunately, most coordination groups either can't, or won't, rescind coordination of a pair even if it's not actually used.
It WOULD be nice if repeater "owners" had to prove a certain minumum use or lose their coordination... (NEVER gonna happen.)

W8JAS
02-27-2007, 05:30 AM
Quote[/b] (KE5IUE @ Feb. 25 2007,18:29)]Does anyone know who owns the 146.700 Reapeater in the DFW area?
have you listened to the IDer? It must ID.

KE5IUE
02-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Never got the sign at all. It was two hams talking about traffic and directions. I listened for about 45 min and never heard the callsign of it. Wanted to see if it was a repeater, or if there were using simplex. I was about 50 miles away, at home listening to where they were. Just trying to see who owns it, or where it is since I have never come across it before.

KS4VT
02-28-2007, 10:48 AM
In Florida we have a "60 day rule" in an attempt to get rid of paper repeaters. #With the local Directors involvement, if a ham suspects that a repeater has been "off the air" for an extended period of time with no notification to the Council, we allow them to put up a repeater. #If that new repeater operates for 61 days with no complaints of interference it gets the new coordination.

There are additional requirements that go along with it, but in a nutshell that is how it works.

N5FOG
02-28-2007, 11:19 AM
The problem is the Texas frequency coordinator is its controlled by Armadillo intertie and they run it with a very self serving mentality.

A perfect example is trying to run atv on 70cm. The armadillo group has a bunch of VERY closed linked repeaters all over Texas linked on 420 MHz. Instead of properly considering ATV when they allocated freq. for their links they just put them anywhere and everywhere making it impossible to run atv on 70cm without it tearing into their links.

They have also decided that their network will be on one of 6 pairs and no other repeaters statewide will be coordinated on those pairs so they can just drive around with their radios scanning and only pick up their repeaters.

Another serious point of corruption was the waiting list for repeater pairs, it wasn't until last year that the TX freq coordinator made the waiting list public and it took a lawsuit to get that to happen.

What was happing is people were on the list for years and all of a sudden a pair would open and someone who is budz with the freq coordinator would get the pair.

Another example is that all repeater trustees and members MUST drive to cross the state to the yearly meeting if they want to vote on board of directors and president. Last year several of us tried to bring in proxy votes from numerous hams that couldn't drive cross Texas to vote and the freq coordinator board members fought it tooth and nail and finally destroyed the proxy prompting another coming lawsuit.


FOG

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