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KG6JTB
07-27-2002, 12:00 AM
I am a poor speller, so I shouldn’t rant about this peeve. However, I make damn sure that my syntax and grammar is correct before posting anything on this site. I am afraid to buy anything listed on the swap boards by people who spell antenna=antena or excellent=excellant or mic=mike.
Am I the only one who feels this way, or are some of us just grammar school flunkies?
KC2JCA
07-27-2002, 12:13 AM
This is what we're down to now?
Spelling flames?
I guess when the Freebander/CB/Ham or Code/No Code fiasco has gotten a bit worn around the edges, you can always pull out the old "Don't you people know how to spell?" flame.
I, personally, wish someone would make a PTT button on the right side of a microphone for once. Is that too much to ask?
--
Jim - kc2jca
N0KLT
07-27-2002, 12:22 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC2JCA @ July 26 2002,19:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><snip>
I, personally, wish someone would make a PTT button on the right side of a microphone for once. Is that too much to ask?
--
Jim - kc2jca[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The hand microphone that came with the Kenwood TS-700 series radios has the PTT on the right side. Or at least the 700-S and 700-SP models. I am not sure what the 700-A came with but I presume it was the same. Great feeling large old clunky thing, I love it. I wish all hand mics had the same feel.
73
Gary - N0KLT
WB2RJR
07-27-2002, 02:33 AM
KG6JTB
Probably the best way for an adult to improve his or her spelling would be to learn Morse code at 20 wpm, and then spend all their time on cw. This works for kids too. Gives them a reason to spell correctly, instead of having to use a checker.
73, Marty K7RKR
KB9YFI
07-27-2002, 04:09 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg0ko @ July 25 2002,20:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KG6JTB
Probably the best way for an adult to improve his or her spelling would be to learn Morse code at 20 wpm, and then spend all their time on cw. This works for kids too. Gives them a reason to spell correctly, instead of having to use a checker.
73, Marty K7RKR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thusly, the best way to grow corn would be to hollow out a large cavern under a mountain and then outfit it with huge electric lights for which you would have to build its own powerplant. Then you would have to divert a couple of rivers into underground pipes to irrigate it. Yeah, that's the way to grow corn. No use wasting all that real estate on the surface...
Or you could learn to speak read and write the English language. You know, that thing they used to do in schools before the government took them all over and remanufactured them into propaganda factories.
KB1GYQ
07-27-2002, 04:34 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg0ko @ July 26 2002,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KG6JTB
Probably the best way for an adult to improve his or her spelling would be to learn Morse code at 20 wpm, and then spend all their time on cw. This works for kids too. Gives them a reason to spell correctly, instead of having to use a checker.
73, Marty K7RKR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Given the propensity to abbreviation that Morse operators have, I wouldn't commend that modus operandi as a means of learning proper English.
N7CPC
07-27-2002, 07:14 AM
I SEE YOU HAVE YOUR FOUR LETTER WORDS DOWN PAT!
WHY DON'T YOU CHECH OUT THW WHINING WALL WHERE EVERYBODY SPELLS THEIR FOUR LETTER WORDS KOREKTLEE! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
ka1kjz
07-27-2002, 01:46 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg0ko @ July 26 2002,19:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Probably the best way for an adult to improve his or her spelling would be to learn Morse code at 20 wpm, and then spend all their time on cw. This works for kids too. Gives them a reason to spell correctly, instead of having to use a checker.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually the easiest way is to keep the rules in mind. #They are so rote, so deeply ingrained in me by now, but one that comes to mind is...
I before E except after C (I actually use this one, its an admitted stumbling block)
99% of all spelling is contained in these rules... so borrow your first grader's spelling book and have a good read!
Now... GRAMMER! #THATS one we gotta work on!
KC2JCA
07-27-2002, 01:52 PM
ITS TRU CW IS NOT GUD FER LERNING GUD SPELLING. U R NOT GOING TO LERN GUD ENGLISH TOO. BUT U WILL GET HF PRIV ES STUFF LIKE THAT THERE.
KG6JTB
07-27-2002, 02:20 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Thusly, the best way to grow corn would be to hollow out a large cavern under a mountain and then outfit it with huge electric lights for which you would have to build its own powerplant. #Then you would have to divert a couple of rivers into underground pipes to irrigate it. Yeah, that's the way to grow corn. #No use wasting all that real estate on the surface... #
Or you could learn to speak read and write the English language. You know, that thing they used to do in schools before the government took them all over and remanufactured them into propaganda factories. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Exactly ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kc2jyt
07-27-2002, 02:50 PM
<sigh>
Why am I reading this? I should be doing my Morse Code...
KC7ATO
07-27-2002, 04:06 PM
I think using a spell checker is an excellent idea. I know it has helped me cuse sics munths ego I cudint evn sphl et al end now eyecan. #
W5ATX
07-27-2002, 06:25 PM
A spellchecker is nothing more than a translation aid. I type everything in Russian, then run it through a translator that turns it into Bulgarian, then to another translator to German, then to freetranslation.com for the coversion to English. So if any of you are ever offended by something I say, it was probably just "lost in the translation."
KC2JCA
07-27-2002, 07:41 PM
Whut?
KB1GYQ
07-27-2002, 10:29 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">An Owed to the Spelling Checker
by Dave Burnham
I have a spelling checker.
It came with my PC.
It plane lee marks four my revue
Miss steaks aye can knot sea.
Eye ran this poem threw it,
Your sure reel glad two no.
Its vary polished in it's weigh,
My checker tolled me sew.
A checker is a bless sing,
It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
And aides me when aye rime.
Each frays come posed up on my screen
Eye trussed to bee a joule
The checker poured o'er every word
To cheque sum spelling rule.
Be fore a veiling checkers
Hour spelling mite decline,
And if were lacks or have a laps,
We wood be maid to wine.
Butt now bee cause my spelling
Is checked with such grate flare,
Their are know faults with in my cite,
Of none eye am a wear.
Now spelling does knot phase me,
It does knot bring a tier.
My pay purrs awl due glad den
With wrapped words fare as hear.
To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should be proud.
And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
Sew flaws are knot aloud.
Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays
Such soft ware for pea seas,
And why I brake in two averse
By righting wants too pleas.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
WB2RJR
07-28-2002, 04:20 AM
GYQ,
An excellent post and I love it...however WORD suggests changing laps to lapse, cheque to cherub or several other inane suggestions, and aides to aids, not that any of that would have helped.
CPC
Just thought that cw was a way to practice spelling on the fly. Get youself to look up some of the words you commonly use, but are not sure of the spelling on, because you have to keep spelling them. A thing you really don't have to do here since you can run it through a checker as above.
Is building a cavern to grow corn in like building dams, reservoirs, irrigation ditches etc all over the western U.S.? In your story you forgot the part about how you use the gov't to get other people to pay for your project to grow corn in a place not naturally suited to do so.
Cw helped me to spell better having been a victim of an "interesting, progressive" idea in the mid fifties that children shouldn't learn to read phonically. Took me years to fix that ( didn't know how to handle these fools when I was 7) and cw helped. Still remember felling like an idiot when I got to private high school, and reading aloud in class, came to a word I didn't know, and was told to "sound it out". Couldn't do it, I had been taught to read English like it was Chinese pictograms. You know a word is spelled right only if it "looks right" printed. Cw at least made me spell words over and over again without seeing them.
BTW don't the gov't propaganda factories call that "interesting, progressive" idea "whole language" today?
73, Marty K7RKR
WB2RJR
07-28-2002, 06:22 AM
”I before E except after C (I actually use this one, its an admitted stumbling block)” ka1kjz Actually isn't there a second part to this rule that everyone like me forgets? Or does it just apply to words after the Pleistocene.
I love English spelling rules threw and through.
”Now... GRAMMER! THATS one we got to work on!” ka1kjz
Besides the above todays grammer tips.
The preposition with, always takes the Accusative Case same as in Latin. Always say with him, with me, never say with he or with I.
How does one put nouns and pronouns in the Genative Case? With nouns by adding 's. Examples; Mary's car, the dog's bone. With pronouns use the Genative Case. Examples; her car, his bone. Note that the Genative of "it" is "its" not "it's" which means "it is". Example; The rock was heavy, its weight was 15 pounds. (weight? Do you think I should use the rule above? I before E...what is the last part of that rule?)
Tips on the Present Subjunctive Tense.
Is it ever proper to say,I be, you be, he be, we be, you be, they be?
Only if you are required to use the Present Subjunctive Tense in your sentense. This usually occurs in English in clauses which express the idea "in order that" or "for the reason or purpose that".
Example; The court ruled that he be put to death.
Bring a ruler tomorrow. We're going to learn how to diagram sentenses.
Extra credit What is the plural of the word "a"?
73, Marty
AC7UX
07-28-2002, 11:55 AM
you mean i should`a been watching the chalk board instead of my teacher legs? let`s face it, school nowdays is a business and like any big business, people have the right to form a union. then when the union is big enough, it will get the attention of the democratic party. the extreme liberals step in, and the next thing you know, your kids come home speaking ebonics, worrying about the rain forests, worrying about global warming, telling you they learned how to put condoms on bananas in sex class and what bill clinton did in office was only about sex. it was his personal life and didnt effect the country. notice i didn`t say a thing about the three R`s. which brings me back to my teachers legs.
KB9YFI
07-28-2002, 02:06 PM
The best way I have found to keep an eye on my grammar is always think about what is the object and direct object of any sentence. You don't have to memorize all the "cases." Most people were never taught that in school anyway because the teachers didn't know them either. I never knew what they were until I took a foreign language (i before e again?)
Spell checkers are great but they are only an aid. Like driving a car on cruise control does not allow you to let go of the wheel and go to sleep in the back seat. More advanced programs like Microsoft Word will do a grammar check for you and the above poem would not pass muster (mustard?). It is not perfect and sometimes word substitution can happen which changes meaning but does not effect the legitimacy of the grammar. Language is a very powerful tool and just like any other tools it can be used to build beautiful structures or be the means to erect hideous eye-sores as often can be seen here on the pages of QRZ.
Like any other skill, writing takes practice. Our public indoctrination camps are no longer teaching language because the efficient use thereof would lead to the inevitable downfall of the evil government institutions they serve. They are happy when we are all ignorant and babbling savages. Our masters are pleased with a population unable to communicate in any meaningful way. In that condition we will be that much easier to enslave.
Jim - KB9YFI
AC7UX
07-28-2002, 05:49 PM
Confusion now hath made his masterpiece! ----Shakespeare--
KG4RYT
07-29-2002, 12:38 PM
IFS YOUZA WUZA LEARNS TA SPELA ,YA'LLA CUZ LEARNS COODE #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif #ISA AGREZEZ WIT THA SPELA CECK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
KC2JCA
07-29-2002, 02:12 PM
"i" before "e" except after "c", and in words which rhyme with "a" like "neighbor" and "aweigh".
That would be the whole rule. Okeigh?
73, Jim - kc2jca
K1LCA
07-29-2002, 04:38 PM
I tried usin language as a tool once when I was workin on da car. Da naybor lady called de cops and said I can not be using my kinda language as a tool no more when her kids be listenin.
KG6JTB
07-29-2002, 08:39 PM
look at this! Just posted today...
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KB9YFI
07-30-2002, 03:02 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC2JCA @ July 28 2002,08:12)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"i" before "e" except after "c", and in words which rhyme with "a" like "neighbor" and "aweigh".
That would be the whole rule. Okeigh?
73, Jim - kc2jca[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sounds kind of foreign to me...
K9STH
07-30-2002, 03:18 AM
The "rule" is more normally listed as "i" before "e", except after "c", or sounded as "a" as in "neighbor" and "weigh".
Definitely both "Queen's English" and "Amercian English", but not necessarily in "slanguage" which is really nothing that matters.
Glen, K9STH
KB9YFI
07-30-2002, 03:27 AM
'Ebonics' is now taught on some college campuses. More PC garbage from the best schools government can buy.
Jim - KB9YFI
WB2RJR
07-30-2002, 04:00 AM
Jim,
You are not only correct but efficient in your use of words.
73, Marty
(i before e except after c....is this always true?)
KB1GYQ
07-30-2002, 04:29 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YFI @ July 29 2002,23:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">'Ebonics' is now taught on some college campuses. #More PC garbage from the best schools government can buy.
Jim - KB9YFI[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
At Harvard, "linguistics 86" ... http://icg.harvard.edu/~ling86/syllabus/ And many others.
There is a small building in town, currently used by the historic society, with names like "Homer", and "Virgil" carved in the stone blocks. ... At times I wonder how many people think of a yellow skinned, beer drinkin', donut eatin' oaf and a small town in South Dakota.
KB9YFI
07-30-2002, 04:37 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 28 2002,22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There is a small building in town, currently used by the historic society, with names like "Homer", and "Virgil" carved in the stone blocks. ... At times I wonder how many people think of a yellow skinned, beer drinkin', donut eatin' oaf and a small town in South Dakota.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
D'oh!
KB1GYQ
07-30-2002, 05:57 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">D'oh! English! Who needs that? I'm never going to England[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'> Homer Simpson
N7CPC
07-30-2002, 07:23 AM
Heh, heh,heh.
M1MPW
07-30-2002, 01:58 PM
Ya wanna speak the propa Queens Englissh like wot
I does.
Mark ( from England )
M3MPW
WB2GOF
07-30-2002, 03:03 PM
Most peepul can reed beter wen i spel stuf foneticalee. Of cawrs, english is a tuf enuf langwaj to begin with. And literacee in owar united staytz iz on thu declin nowadayz.
W0BKR
08-09-2002, 03:15 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC2JCA @ July 26 2002,17:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This is what we're down to now?
Spelling flames?
I guess when the Freebander/CB/Ham or Code/No Code fiasco has gotten a bit worn around the edges, you can always pull out the old "Don't you people know how to spell?" flame.
I, personally, wish someone would make a PTT button on the right side of a microphone for once. Is that too much to ask?
--
Jim - kc2jca[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep...I have seen it repeatedly Jim, and usually, it is the same individual(s) that whine about it. #Personally, I can read into what someone is trying to say. #If you are going to implement a spell checker, add to it a grammar check as well!
I don't have a problem with spelling errors. #Afterall, this isn't an English test!
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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W0BKR @ Aug. 08 2002,09:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to implement a spell checker, add to it a grammar check as well![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Howabout a logic filter (lid filter?). Of course, that would keep *me* out most of the time.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73 de Drew N0XU
W0BKR
08-09-2002, 08:12 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n0xu @ Aug. 09 2002,12:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W0BKR @ Aug. 08 2002,09:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to implement a spell checker, add to it a grammar check as well![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Howabout a logic filter (lid filter?). Of course, that would keep *me* out most of the time.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73 de Drew N0XU[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Darn Drew! I thought of that but didn't put it down. Hi.
If we add all these filters......none of us would be posting! Hi.
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N7CPC
08-10-2002, 07:27 AM
FILTER TEST: FT=001:..........well.........and...............bu t....................if you don't........................so there!
END TEST: FT=001
AC7UX
08-10-2002, 09:51 AM
Spell checker? We don`t need no stinking spell checker. I have more fun trying to figure out what words some people are trying to spell. ( beats the new york times crossword puzzle.)
K8EEI
08-11-2002, 07:59 PM
What really gets me is some of these QRMers (I won't mention Doc Walleye) can't #or don't know the difference between too , two ,and to...or they're, their, and there.(eet ull sounnds da same so hew kum eet es spilled diffurunt ?)
# #My teachers would be turning over in their grave if they read some of this bs.
Oh well, I'm glad I got that out.
73 gents & ladies
de Tony K8EEI
K8EEI
08-11-2002, 08:04 PM
They like the fact that their school is there and they're doing very well.
73 de Tony K8EEI