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Well, seems they are going to try again, maybe the last time. #The new owner must be using fun money.
Air America Trying Again (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250818,00.html)
K2WH
kg6amw
02-08-2007, 02:58 PM
New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" #to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
n4sva
02-08-2007, 03:19 PM
If you want liberal radio: Just turn to ESPN radio and listen to Tony Cornheiser or Randy Patrick, et. al.
Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" #to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,11:16)]So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
Funny, that sounds just like Laura Ingraham, except that it's with Muslims.
k5xit
02-08-2007, 04:52 PM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,07:01)]Well, seems they are going to try again, maybe the last time. #The new owner must be using fun money.
Air America Trying Again (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250818,00.html)
K2WH
Probably paid too much http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KI4NNL
02-08-2007, 04:56 PM
Actually, and this is a very debatable point, there was a more fundemental difference.
Rush and many of them tend to make fun of libs and laugh at them.
Randy and the like were more venemous and hateful about it.
All other things aside, people tend to get sick of negativity after a while, even if you like the ideas and such. #I listen to a local show, and while yes they are conservative, they are mostly just fun to listen too. I would probably listen if they were liberal because they are enjoyable even when I don't agree with them.
I think this is the root of what happened with Air America, the managment staff wanted liberal opinion, but did not go for liberal entertainment, which is a very different thing. #Look at the daily show, its liberal and even though I most definatly do NOT agree with John Stewart, he is pretty darn funny and entertaining and I watch him regularly, but then agian I am not brainwashed into believing that people with different views from mine are stupid (folks could take a lesson in that I think).
Hopefully the new owner will realize this and Air America can make it work so the lefties will stop whining about how radio is dominated by the right wing (sorry had to throw in that jab http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )
ka5piu
02-09-2007, 12:42 AM
Hello.
I AM a Muslim, and I will tell you flat out, the people on Air America have an attitude.
In the Mosque things are more "light" and friendly.
And, in Islam, fun IS part of the package.
One follower needed to make a run, to deliver a message, so he asked for a camel.
The prophet replied that he should use a baby camel.
At this point the messenger, a commander in the Islamic army was somewhat agitated, and replied, 'What am I to do with a baby camel!?
The prophet answered that all camels are the babies of their mothers.
The commander, somewhat red-faced, left on his journey.
w2amr
02-09-2007, 12:46 AM
Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 08 2007,09:56)]Actually, and this is a very debatable point, there was a more fundemental difference.
Rush and many of them tend to make fun of libs and laugh at them.
Randy and the like were more venemous and hateful about it.
All other things aside, people tend to get sick of negativity after a while, even if you like the ideas and such. #I listen to a local show, and while yes they are conservative, they are mostly just fun to listen too. I would probably listen if they were liberal because they are enjoyable even when I don't agree with them.
I think this is the root of what happened with Air America, the managment staff wanted liberal opinion, but did not go for liberal entertainment, which is a very different thing. #Look at the daily show, its liberal and even though I most definatly do NOT agree with John Stewart, he is pretty darn funny and entertaining and I watch him regularly, but then agian I am not brainwashed into believing that people with different views from mine are stupid (folks could take a lesson in that I think).
Hopefully the new owner will realize this and Air America can make it work so the lefties will stop whining about how radio is dominated by the right wing (sorry had to throw in that jab http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif )
Oh yeah, The druggie is just a fun loving guy , not a mean bone in his pudgy body. Give me a friggin break.
Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Feb. 08 2007,19:46)]Oh yeah, The druggie is just a fun loving guy , not a mean bone in his pudgy body. Give me a friggin break.
How many ways can the right pat each other on the back? Maybe that's why Foley tried to reach out and touch someone? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
At least, unlike Faux News, they deal with facts and are an American organization.
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kf6rdn
02-09-2007, 03:31 AM
Quote[/b] ]Air America's New Owner, Bought for Peanuts
I thought maybe Jimmy Carter bought it.
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KI4SQT
02-09-2007, 05:21 AM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Feb. 07 2007,19:48)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Feb. 08 2007,19:46)]Oh yeah, The druggie is just a fun loving guy , not a mean bone in his pudgy body. Give me a friggin break.
How many ways can the right pat each other on the back? #Maybe that's why Foley tried to reach out and touch someone? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
At least, unlike Faux News, they deal with facts and are an American organization.
* LINK * (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=145791;)
Right...LMAO
What flavor leftie Kool Aid is that you're drinking anyway? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
ka0gkt
02-09-2007, 05:44 AM
Over four megabucks for an operation which hasn't been able to pay its bills...Yep, there's a real bargain.
I believe that the purchase was more of a political statement than a business decision. The new owner has money to burn, and he just burned some buying blue sky. It matters little what political leaning the programming, this deal gets the new owner a "network"; and, IIRC, not a single signal. This is a program provider, not a broadcast operation. Perhaps the equipment in the studios is worth the amount paid, however everything else is just so much vapor.
This doesn't mean that it can't be a money maker, however as we say in the broadcast biz, the new ownership will need to blow-up all of the programming and start from scratch. In order to make money, they need to attract listeners; in order to attact listeners they need to have entertaining engaging programming and convince enough station owners that they can make money by carrying the Air America programming. Then they must convince some advertisers that the demographic which listgens to the Air America programming is worth a portion of their advertising dollar.
Here's how most syndicated programming works. The programming is provided to the radio station for free or at very little cost. The station is required to air all of the network advertisments, and a certain number of advertising avails are given to the station to sell on their own. This is where the station makes their money. The network avails is where the syndicator makes its money. Simple...assuming that:
1) The programming offered by the syndicator attracts listeners.
2) The station can sell enough advertisments during the syndicated programming to turn a profit.
3) The network can sell enough advertisments to turn a profit.
Unfortunately, Air America has failed to do all three in must markets where it has aired.
The new owners do have a big job ahead of them.
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
W1GUH
02-09-2007, 05:46 AM
No, it's an AM'er that wanted their equipment for their station!
kf6rdn
02-09-2007, 05:56 AM
I wouldn't mind listening to it now and then if it's entertaining, but it did seem as mentioned "bush is evil, lied, evil war etc" etc.
If they actually were entertaining and had more points, and yes liberals DO have legit points, I will admit, but what little I had heard of this did not present them.
n2ize
02-09-2007, 06:14 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
kf6rdn
02-09-2007, 06:25 AM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Feb. 08 2007,22:14)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
Not to argue that, but if that is ALL they have to say wouldn't that get boring, even if you agree 100%?
WA5KRP
02-09-2007, 06:39 AM
The buyer of Air America will wind up making a small fortune. Of course, he started with a large fortune.
WA5KRP
Texas
Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Feb. 09 2007,00:21)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Feb. 07 2007,19:48)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Feb. 08 2007,19:46)]Oh yeah, The druggie is just a fun loving guy , not a mean bone in his pudgy body. Give me a friggin break.
How many ways can the right pat each other on the back? Maybe that's why Foley tried to reach out and touch someone? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
At least, unlike Faux News, they deal with facts and are an American organization.
* LINK * (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=17;t=145791;)
Right...LMAO
What flavor leftie Kool Aid is that you're drinking anyway? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Just cause you righties drink that garbage doesn't mean we will. Check the link. That furringer Murdoch at Fox was trying to get more of our kids killed in Iraq. Murdoch actually said so in his own words.
W5IEI
02-09-2007, 12:46 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Feb. 08 2007,23:14)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
Seems right after 9-11 you and the rest of you liberal turds wanted a war too.
They all voted for it.
Explain your way out of that? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Feb. 08 2007,19:14)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" #to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. #Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. #Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. #Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
Maybe you have something there and they actually love Bush and his administration. #Maybe its tough love.
Give me a break what an idiotic statement you made.
The people on Air America, HATE THE WAR BECAUSE BUSH IS THE PRESIDENT. #END OF STORY
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 09 2007,06:02)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Feb. 08 2007,19:14)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" #to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. #Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. #Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. #Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
Maybe you have something there and they actually love Bush and his administration. #Maybe its tough love.
Give me a break what an idiotic statement you made.
The people on Air America, HATE THE WAR BECAUSE BUSH IS THE PRESIDENT. #END OF STORY
K2WH
Uh, wrong again, as usual.
What is with you right wing kool-aid drinkers and the constant "you hate Bush" screeds?
The man is a complete bozo and it will take years to fix the mess he's made of this country and our foreign policy. The Iraq war was wrong, is wrong and will continue to be wrong. It doesn't have anything to do with one's personal feelings about the President.
Since you're so concerned about "hatred", what about all your favorite right wing yakkers who are obsessed with the Clintons and Ted Kennedy?
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
kg6amw
02-09-2007, 03:53 PM
Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Feb. 08 2007,23:14)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,09:16)]Quote[/b] (kg6amw @ Feb. 08 2007,03:58)]New owner bought it for peanuts because that's about what its worth. Perhaps if they changed their format from the "just hate Bush and the conservatives" #to something a little more appealing and entertaining while keeping a liberal theme,they might make some money for a change. Even listening to Rush Limbaugh gets old after 20 minutes, but apparently he has lots of ditto heads locked in.
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al. #Wants them locked up, vilified, impeached, dead etc. #Everything, every event in the world, she had the Bush administration hands in it.
No world events, news or anything else, just vile, red faced hatred. #Bashing the President is one thing, but to drumbeat it constantly got real old real fast.
Anyway, after 1 or 2 minutes of that, switched back to WABC.
K2WH
Quote[/b] ]
So right. #During commercials on WABC, I would sometimes switch to air america to see what they were discussing and all I would hear from this female Randy something or other, hatred, complete and absolute hatred of Bush, Rowe, Cheney et al.
Explaining to people how this administration lied and got the nation into a corrupt war is "hatred" ??
An example of koolaidism.
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Feb. 09 2007,10:49)]Uh, wrong again, as usual.
What is with you right wing kool-aid drinkers and the constant "you hate Bush" screeds?
The man is a complete bozo and it will take years to fix the mess he's made of this country and our foreign policy. The Iraq war was wrong, is wrong and will continue to be wrong. It doesn't have anything to do with one's personal feelings about the President.
Since you're so concerned about "hatred", what about all your favorite right wing yakkers who are obsessed with the Clintons and Ted Kennedy?
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Feb. 09 2007,00:21)]What flavor leftie Kool Aid is that you're drinking anyway? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Got that right Dave. Not to mention Foley-esque Pelosi and H. Clinton bashing. And let's not forget the projectionism they are now engaging in too.
n4sva
02-09-2007, 03:59 PM
Maybe they should hire Howard Stern
ke7imb
02-09-2007, 04:04 PM
I bet that those who hate Air America and those that hate Rush, Have never listened to thier shows for more then say 30 seconds. I can not coment on the content of Air america for I have never listened to it so I have no opinon of it period. As for Rush all he does is rha rha rha shish boombah the President. Ok I do have a problem with that. I am a Independant conservitive I will lambast the president when I see the need. I will how ever keep and open mind.
***WRONG!!!***
I've listened to both. For extended periods.
KI4NNL
02-09-2007, 04:15 PM
Your missing the point.
There are a large number of "Right Wing" talk shows that cover a fairly wide range of positions. #There is the more libetarian Niel Boortz all the way to the far right Micheal Savage and all kinds in between.
They are conservative generally, or its probably more accurate to say, not "lefty" in any way. It stands to reason they are going to say things you disagree with.
The point is they are all entertainment. #Even Rush, in at least one of his books (and I am NOT a dittohead by any means, I rarely listen to him), tells you he is intended to be entertainment, just with a political viewpoint. #This is the critical difference. #Yes there are some pretty rabid right wing shows, Savage for one. I generally turn the dial when he is on as I find his ranting to be pretty tiring pretty fast. #Right or wrong I don't care to hear that kind of raving. # Air America was trying to market the lefty version of that in an all day long format! #One show may have been fine, but if you had a conservative station that had a bunch of Savage clones all day long ranting and raving it would probably fail as well. #Yes some would love it, but it does not have the general appeal a balance of shows has.
John Stewart is entertaining and he is succesful. #If he took politics out of his show, he would still be funny and enjoyable. Air America could stand to learn something from that. #You have to entertain your audiance, no matter your viewpoint if you want to be succesful. If you don't do that you are not going to get the listener base to support the advertisers. If you took politics out of Air America it would be dead air. #I have heard a lot of the conservative shows spend a LOT of time talking about non-political topics while still being entertaining.
Right now it is being pointed out that ranting and screaming about an issue/point of view/politician to the exclusion of entertaining your audiance is a recipe for failing, and it is countered with "your talk show hosts are hateful and your president is an idiot". #OK it is clear you feel that way, and it may even be true, that is not at all the point. #What is the point is that our "hateful" hosts, in general entertain and don't just scream and rave about hating left wingers and such (Savage aside), they entertain the audiance while coming from a conservative viewpoint. #
If you don't see this, and if The folks running Air America don't figure this out then they are doomed to fail. Period.
kl7aj
02-09-2007, 04:17 PM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 08 2007,07:01)]Well, seems they are going to try again, maybe the last time. #The new owner must be using fun money.
Air America Trying Again (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250818,00.html)
K2WH
America has a new owner??!! Why wasn't I told! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Now I'm going to have to learn Japanese.
KD6NIG
02-09-2007, 04:21 PM
Air America would probably do best by parterning up with XM radio, signing some kind of contract, and having the talent get paid by them. Either that, or just providing them the feed for a fee, and part of that is letting XM do the ads. Just provide the programming, pay your Deejays, and collect the money from XM.
I never listened to it, but for it to get the market share that it needs to survive, it needs to be available EVERYWHERE. Local affilate stations, though a nice idea, will never cut it. There are people who will listen to it, but you gotta go where the people are now.
Just ask Howard Stern, Opie and Anthony, and the like. They will tell you about it as they light a cigar with a $100 bill.
Unless you have a large established network already, or can afford to sign with one, you're doomed. XM, however, would probably pick it up pretty fast, though they already have such channels, I'm sure if they are popular, they wouldn't mind adding another. Even if it only drives a few hundred thousand more into subscribing, thats still more revenue in the stream.
If they don't do it, don't be surprised if some of the Deejays wind up on a XM talk channel somewhere.
Terrestrial radio will soon be a morning show, an afternoon show, and the rest will be piped from a central station somewhere to stations across the US. They won't even have to have a warm body there anymore. (and after the water contest debacle in Sacramento, don't be shocked if the 'morning show' gets smaller or eliminated also!)
And, what do ya know. Thats just how XM and Sirious work too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif AND PEOPLE PAY A MONTHLY FEE FOR IT http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 09 2007,11:15)]The point is they are all entertainment. Even Rush, in at least one of his books (and I am NOT a dittohead by any means, I rarely listen to him), tells you he is intended to be entertainment, just with a political viewpoint.
So Rush is a commedian!! OH! That would mean he was funny! Yeah, that's the ticket. So that's why he keeps distorting news clips and saying 'You heard it here first folks..."
Rush had a number of big failures. When it comes to women, 3X isn't the charm. When it comes to radio shows, Jeff Christie, took nearly two decades to find something that 'worked'. Oh, and what ever happened to Ditto-Head TV? Seems that the Righties don't have too much success on the tube. They can't help it if their faces are just meant for Radio. Stewart and Colbert have done what he couldn't.
Funny, eh?? Let me know when the fun begins.
KI4NNL
02-09-2007, 04:38 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Feb. 09 2007,11:25)]Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 09 2007,11:15)]The point is they are all entertainment. #Even Rush, in at least one of his books (and I am NOT a dittohead by any means, I rarely listen to him), tells you he is intended to be entertainment, just with a political viewpoint.
So Rush is a commedian!! #OH! #That would mean he was funny! #Yeah, that's the ticket. #So that's why he keeps distorting news clips and saying 'You heard it here first folks..."
Rush had a number of big failures. #When it comes to women, 3X isn't the charm. #When it comes to radio shows, Jeff Christie, took nearly two decades to find something that 'worked'. #Oh, and what ever happened to Ditto-Head TV? #Seems that the Righties don't have too much success on the tube. #They can't help it if their faces are just meant for Radio. #Stewart and Colbert have done what he couldn't.
Funny, eh?? #Let me know when the fun begins.
Dude, you need to unwind your spring a bit.
I didn't say you had to like Rush, or if I even liked him. #But most everything you said has very very little to do with his marketability.
I am sorry that life is so cut and dry for you, did I not praise Stewart for how he provides entertainment?
Are you so hateful you cannot actually talk about the issue at hand and instead have to strike out at the competition?
Like them or not, they must be doing SOMETHING that people want to listen to. #
I guess you think its the neocon brain washing regime we underwent to put the ® on our voter registration that makes us robotically turn the dial to the state sponsered propaganda channel.
If a manufacturing company looks at the competition and sees it has features they don't, do they scream and holler about its not fair? No they figure out how to work those features into the machines or something to make thier product equally competitive. #That or they lose the market!
Why don't you read my post in the spirit with which it was written, a fair non critical assesment of the situation as I see it without throwing dispariging remarks at the personalities involved. #Emotion is no way to make decisions or judge situations, step back and look at things a bit.
Actually I was pointing out that Air America is having the same growing pains that Rush had when he started his 'comical' show. But do gush on. I wouldn't want anyone to think (that Rush's term) ditto-heads aren't thinking.
Rush's show is two shows. It's a news show to ditto-heads (those who completely agree with him) and a comedy show to those who don't (we're just kidding! where's your sense of humor?? you must be a close minded commie.)
BTW, if you look at this post, you'll notice there is no where I have said that YOU were a Rush fan. I kept my comments to the show and what you said about it. OTOH, when I point out a few facts, YOU have attempted to characterized me. Based on your yes I'm not a Rush fan, No I must be because when you point out facts - then you're hateful.
Wow. Just like a swiss army knife. Just like Rush's two dimensional show too. Multifunctional.
Enjoy. I'd tell you to play by yourself, but the last time I said that it was mis-interpreted too.
KI4NNL
02-09-2007, 04:55 PM
Hold on, back up a bit.
I will admit I didn't take your post as was intended. #
It seemed more like just a bashing attack, I didn't realize you were relating the history. #With that said it makes more sense.
I can admit when I messed up. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
OK, I think we actually agree then for the most part. You seem to be pointing out the AA is simply young in its career. Your probably right, but the main problem is taking something so young so to speak, and trying to make it a nationwide thing before it was more mature as a product.
That I can absolutly agree with. #Of course if you aim high, its easy to fall far too. #The goal was quite lofty, I will give them that though.
Consider me spanked regarding the attack, I did take away the wrong message and I do apologize for that.
Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 09 2007,05:55)]Hold on, back up a bit.
I will admit I didn't take your post as was intended. #
It seemed more like just a bashing attack, I didn't realize you were relating the history. #With that said it makes more sense.
I can admit when I messed up. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
OK, I think we actually agree then for the most part. You seem to be pointing out the AA is simply young in its career. Your probably right, but the main problem is taking something so young so to speak, and trying to make it a nationwide thing before it was more mature as a product.
That I can absolutly agree with. #Of course if you aim high, its easy to fall far too. #The goal was quite lofty, I will give them that though.
Consider me spanked regarding the attack, I did take away the wrong message and I do apologize for that.
Ooohh. #You should have never apologized, because they never do. #You have displayed weakness and they will use that against you.
The rabid left of this zone, AMR, IZE, NH and 6D portray exactly the attitudes you tried to point out in your posting revealing the differences between conservative radio vs liberal radio.
Their comments about Rush are exactly what you describe, angry, hateful, confrontational and in your face. #They will never accept Rush, Hannity, Levin and other consevative radio jocks as just entertainers with an entertainment style that puts bread on the table. #For them, these entertainers are people with real biases and they are liars and cheats and most certainly not entertainers. #As Rush has said many times, liberals have no sense of humor.
One has to ask, if a high percentage of people in this country seem to lean towards getting us out of the war with a strong dislike of Bush and companies performance, then how come the numbers don't parallel #with conservative radio vs liberal radio listeners? #It has to be the entertainment value because the listener #percentages are a complete reversal of the countries sentiments.
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 09 2007,19:56)]Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 09 2007,05:55)]Hold on, back up a bit.
I will admit I didn't take your post as was intended.
It seemed more like just a bashing attack, I didn't realize you were relating the history. With that said it makes more sense.
I can admit when I messed up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Ooohh. You should have never apologized, because they never do. You have displayed weakness and they will use that against you.
The rabid left of this zone, AMR, IZE, NH and 6D portray exactly the attitudes you tried to point out in your posting revealing the differences between conservative radio vs liberal radio.
Uh, Wrong again. I have more respect for NNL than before. He is showing something that I respect. Accountability. I have also mentioned, to NNL, that the tone of my posts were a bit more shrill than they should've been. OTOH, one thing we agree on is that politicians have to be more accountable and truthful.
If there is one fault that Liberals, Democrats etc find with the news sources of the right is that they rarely if ever are accountable. That's something that would heighten our estimation of them. Pretty amazing for a godless one, eh?
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KI4NNL
02-10-2007, 01:17 AM
Shhhh....
We don't want to upset the applecart for the ranters. There might end up being frank discussion or heaven forbid, some kind of air of cooperation, dangit that just aint American!
kf6rdn
02-10-2007, 07:14 AM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Feb. 09 2007,08:21)]Air America would probably do best by parterning up with XM radio, signing some kind of contract, and having the talent get paid by them. Either that, or just providing them the feed for a fee, and part of that is letting XM do the ads. Just provide the programming, pay your Deejays, and collect the money from XM.
PLEASE just make sure it is XM and not Sirrius.
I have too much stock in sirrius that is already in the crapper!
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LIBS, failures when it comes to talk radio.
http://www.townhall.com/columni....k_radio (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KenBlackwell/2007/02/20/liberals_aren%e2%80%99t_very_good_at_talk_radio)
KC4HGH
02-20-2007, 06:37 PM
When I was working in Memphis, TN last week (week of Valentine's Day) I was able to tune into Air America on a local station (didn't write the call letters down, but it was on 680 AM). The Young Turks were on for an ailing Randi Rhodes; they sounded just like Beevis & Butthead! They'd take a soundbite of something President Bush said, then imitated B&B, as so: "He said (blank)..huh huh!" "Yeah, he said (blank)- heh heh!" over & over. That was the extent of their show....
When Randi Rhodes came back to work a coupla days later, I realized she was the one I'd heard previously on a trip to Memphis- full of hate & vitriol. It was all, "Bush lied", "Bush is stupid", "Bush ought to be arrested", et. al. I will admit she had a fellow who claimed to be ex-CIA who sounded like he knew something, but the allegations were pretty well "out there". He sounded like he'd had a few "uppers" before he got on, he was ranting so hard- or maybe he had a lot to say in the allotted time. Needless to say, neither sounded very intelligent in their rants & raves. If, and I said *IF* they were calmer in their presentation, maybe someone could buy part of what they were saying, but an educated person wouldn't...and I didn't.
n2ize
02-21-2007, 02:05 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Feb. 09 2007,17:56)]Quote[/b] (KI4NNL @ Feb. 09 2007,05:55)]Hold on, back up a bit.
I will admit I didn't take your post as was intended.
It seemed more like just a bashing attack, I didn't realize you were relating the history. With that said it makes more sense.
I can admit when I messed up. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
OK, I think we actually agree then for the most part. You seem to be pointing out the AA is simply young in its career. Your probably right, but the main problem is taking something so young so to speak, and trying to make it a nationwide thing before it was more mature as a product.
That I can absolutly agree with. Of course if you aim high, its easy to fall far too. The goal was quite lofty, I will give them that though.
Consider me spanked regarding the attack, I did take away the wrong message and I do apologize for that.
Ooohh. You should have never apologized, because they never do. You have displayed weakness and they will use that against you.
The rabid left of this zone, AMR, IZE, NH and 6D portray exactly the attitudes you tried to point out in your posting revealing the differences between conservative radio vs liberal radio.
Their comments about Rush are exactly what you describe, angry, hateful, confrontational and in your face. They will never accept Rush, Hannity, Levin and other consevative radio jocks as just entertainers with an entertainment style that puts bread on the table. For them, these entertainers are people with real biases and they are liars and cheats and most certainly not entertainers. As Rush has said many times, liberals have no sense of humor.
One has to ask, if a high percentage of people in this country seem to lean towards getting us out of the war with a strong dislike of Bush and companies performance, then how come the numbers don't parallel with conservative radio vs liberal radio listeners? It has to be the entertainment value because the listener percentages are a complete reversal of the countries sentiments.
K2WH
Rush is broadcast as "entertainment" for legal reasons. But to a vast majority of his listeners he and others like him are a source of political opinion. They listen to Rush and walk away beleiving the lies, distortions and BS that he spews out at them day after day. And it affects them. It affects their behavior, it affects their opinions and it affects their voting habits. It also keeps them from accepting the truth about things as they have been indoctrinated to beleive Rush's lies to be truths.
n2ize
02-21-2007, 02:09 AM
Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Feb. 20 2007,08:48)]LIBS, failures when it comes to talk radio.
http://www.townhall.com/columni....k_radio (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/KenBlackwell/2007/02/20/liberals_aren%e2%80%99t_very_good_at_talk_radio)
And then we have those that are way beyond the world of Rush. Those who are lost in the world of highly opinionated right wing extremist blogs who will try to tell you that the mainstream media is driven by liberals, feminists, Code Pinkers, communists, and Jane Fonda with black helicopters.