ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME [Archive]

k7duv

01-07-2007, 09:01 PM

ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME
The king of doom. What a joke. In the 70s we were going to run out of oil, run out of electricity, natural gas .The World is coming to an end. In the 1980s the planet was going to be destroyed, we were going to run out of oil again. Remember Y2K? HEY we are still alive! The list goes on.... Wolf People are going to control our minds, or is that HAARP? oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway. We are all going to die in 2012. haha. Remote View That Major nut case. The people that listen to his show are nut bags! BTW. What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager (or is she20?) and gets her PG? (sick-o) The 3840 boys are way better entertainment.

VE7NOT

01-07-2007, 09:08 PM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,13:01)]ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME
The king of doom. What a joke. In the 70s we were going to run out of oil, run out of electricity, natural gas .The World is coming to an end. In the 1980s the planet was going to be destroyed, we were going to run out of oil again. Remember Y2K? HEY we are still alive! The list goes on.... Wolf People are going to control our minds, or is that HAARP? oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway. We are all going to die in 2012. haha. Remote View That Major nut case. The people that listen to his show are nut bags! BTW. What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager (or is she20?) and gets her PG? (sick-o) The 3840 boys are way better entertainment.
Someone delete this thread please http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

K6UEY

01-07-2007, 09:28 PM

I AGREE will some one please DELETE this topic.
It is normal to state ones opinion but to purposely demean and ridicule another Ham #and his family is NOT in the best interest of Amateur Radio!!

ARE THE MODERATORS ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

kf4vgx

01-07-2007, 09:53 PM

It is normal to state ones opinion but to purposely demean and ridicule another Ham
...

What http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif. As if it had never happen here in the past http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif .

Purposely demean and ridicule another amateur that is , naaa no way not here http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif .

w2amr

01-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,14:01)]ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME
The king of doom. What a joke. In the 70s we were going to run out of oil, run out of electricity, natural gas .The World is coming to an end. In the 1980s the planet was going to be destroyed, we were going to run out of oil again. #Remember Y2K? HEY we are still alive! The list goes on.... Wolf People are going to control our minds, or is that HAARP? oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway. We are all going to die in 2012. #haha. Remote View That Major nut case. #The people that listen to his show are nut bags! BTW. What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager
A lucky one?

K1OU

01-07-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 07 2007,14:28)]I AGREE will some one please DELETE this topic.
It is normal to state ones opinion but to purposely demean and ridicule another Ham #and his family is NOT in the best interest of Amateur Radio!!

ARE THE MODERATORS ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Orv,

I'll remember this the next time you call somebody a socialist.

K6UEY

01-07-2007, 10:24 PM

K1OU,
Don't forget the word "LIBERAL" just the thought is a dirty thing ................ http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

n2ize

01-07-2007, 10:32 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 07 2007,15:24)]K1OU,
Don't forget the word "LIBERAL" just the thought is a dirty thing ................ http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
If I were a socialist I'd be proud of that title
If I were a liberal I would be proud of that title
If I were a conservative I'd be proud of that title
If I were a neocon I'd be proud of that title
If I were a fascist I'd be proud of that title

If you truly believe in something then how can it be demeaning ? If you are a liberal and someone calls you a liberal then that is a complement. Why be ashamed of what you believe in ?

K1OU

01-07-2007, 11:17 PM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Jan. 07 2007,15:32)]If you truly believe in something then how can it be demeaning ? If you are a liberal and someone calls you a liberal then that is a complement. Why be ashamed of what you believe in ?
It's not the fact that somebody consider themselves to be one thing or not, it is the thought that thinking that they are insulting somebody by calling them that shows a real shallowness.

KC2ESD

01-08-2007, 12:08 AM

Art Bell is good entertament, just don't take it seriuosly.

N3ATS

01-08-2007, 12:32 AM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,16:01)]ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME
The king of doom. What a joke. In the 70s we were going to run out of oil, run out of electricity, natural gas .The World is coming to an end. In the 1980s the planet was going to be destroyed, we were going to run out of oil again. Remember Y2K? HEY we are still alive! The list goes on.... Wolf People are going to control our minds, or is that HAARP? oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway. We are all going to die in 2012. haha. Remote View That Major nut case. The people that listen to his show are nut bags! BTW. What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager (or is she20?) and gets her PG? (sick-o) The 3840 boys are way better entertainment.
Listening to his show is like watching professional wrestling. You know it's BS, but it's entertaining anyway.

N2RJ

01-08-2007, 12:41 AM

20/21 years old is not a teenager.

In some foreign cultures, young women with old husbands is the norm.

Don't forget as well that Art got her a green card.

Do you have any idea how many people would absolutely kill for one?

Don't forget Art is a celebrity, too.

As for the show itself, it's entertainment. I don't buy everything Art says (okay, I buy almost nothing he says) but it's very entertaining.

w2amr

01-08-2007, 01:00 AM

ka5piu

01-08-2007, 01:04 AM

Hello.

Art Bell is fun to listen to.
He does not attack anyone, he does not allow attacks on the show.
So, why go after the guy, what has he done to you?
Yes, he had the Y2K nitwits on, but so did the "normal" national news.
And, yes, his show is a granola bar, filled with fruits nuts and vegetables, but it is a cut above Jerry Springer.
So, what do YOU want?

K6UEY

01-08-2007, 01:19 AM

W2AMR,
Yes you can assume that I am an ART BELL Fan.

However you would be WRONG!!

I have known Art Bell for some 35 plus years,but I am not a listener to Talk Shows, whether it be Art or Rush
Limbaugh.

I do not care for the character of those attracted to Talk Shows.

If you want an example,listen to 3.840 on the West coast from about midnight on.Listen to the broadcast from the EX Art Bell Fans, judge for your self if that is the level you wish to be associated with. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

N7CPC

01-08-2007, 02:15 AM

How dose he know so much about the Art Bell show if he ain't singing "wouldn't you like to be a puppet too"?

KC9JIQ

01-08-2007, 03:22 AM

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ Jan. 07 2007,18:04)]Hello.

Art Bell is fun to listen to.
He does not attack anyone, he does not allow attacks on the show.
So, why go after the guy, what has he done to you?
Yes, he had the Y2K nitwits on, but so did the "normal" national news.
And, yes, his show is a granola bar, filled with fruits nuts and vegetables, but it is a cut above Jerry Springer.
So, what do YOU want?
It's all about the ratings..... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

n2nh

01-08-2007, 04:04 AM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,16:01)]oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway.
CB'ers are doing alright for themselves on 10 Meters. Next thing you'll know they'll get rid of Old Man code and be all over HF. Oh, Yeah, the code is already gone... Today the HF Bands, tommorrow we try to take over the WORLD, Pinky!

nq6v

01-08-2007, 06:13 AM

I have listened to his show when a caller came on with some really serious rebuttle to the subject matter. The calls are usually dropped accedently.

The only mass media information on his type of subject matter seems to be highly controlled. I have been trying to get on as a guest speaker for quite some time, to plug my book and to talk about developmental fiction.

It seems information on fiction and the development of fiction is a taboo subject.

Dark. Very dark indeed.

UFO magazine runs a book club with a link to his show. I have spoken to the editor in cheif, who is also a regular on his show. He said his readers go beserk with the idea that fiction cna be presented as fact and be accepted as such to a mass audience.

I take a quickie stab at Coast to Coast in "Diana Cooke P.I.".Just a sentance or two.

Men in Black are really out there. On talk radio. Making sure fiction is presented as fact, and pulling the switch when the truth arises.

Many of his guests talk of their education. One comes to mind. He said he had an Associates in Speech, and a PhD in some science.Quite a spread. There are places where degrees can be purchaced. Maybe the guy learned about how dumb the mass audience is, desired 15 minutes of fame, and shelled out cash for a PhD so he can get on Coast to Coast to plug a self published book or a web site you must pay to get on.

Cousin Hayden got out of the UFO game years ago. He now runs a model and actors agency. People shell out money so he can accept their headshot and stats, so he can toss them in the trash and have another casting call the next week and do it all over again. He has a PhD. He does not plug it anymore, and being left behind in the UFO game, people do not even claim to remember him. When Heaven;s Gate had their suicide, the bookstores stocked a book he wrote on their leader a few years before, but it disappeared from the shelves soon after. The UFO investigators liked to accuse each other of being CIA disinformation agents too, and after his stunt with the Carter report during Carters presidental run probablly fuled that.

Her also annoyed popular actors, and I personally have taken flak for that.

k9kjm

01-08-2007, 08:18 AM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 07 2007,14:28)]I AGREE will some one please DELETE this topic.
It is normal to state ones opinion but to purposely demean and ridicule another Ham #and his family is NOT in the best interest of Amateur Radio!!

ARE THE MODERATORS ASLEEP AT THE SWITCH ?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
[QUOTE]

I agree with UEY http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

n2ize

01-08-2007, 08:34 AM

The Y2K "disaster" was an obvious fraud. The reason it was so easy to tell is that it involved computers and programs thatonly used the last 2 digits of the year. When they rolled over they would go to 00 and the machine would treat that as the date 1900 rather than 2000.

The way one could easilly tell it was a fraud was that people who were really "in the know" were not worried about it. Most critical systems were tested and if need be fixed long before 2000. There were a few ninor glitches but nothing to speak of. I had only one Y2K glitch and all I needed to fix it was to put an updated library on my system.

Those who were not in the know (including some otherwise smart people) were predicting a gloom and doom scenario.

However, let us not let the Y2K non-disaster create a false sense of security. Not every potential problem is as easilly solved or necessarily a non-issue.

w2amr

01-08-2007, 09:35 AM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 07 2007,18:19)]W2AMR,
Yes you can assume that I am an ART BELL Fan.

However you would be WRONG!!

I have known Art Bell for some 35 plus years,but I am not a listener to Talk Shows, whether it be Art or Rush
Limbaugh.

I do not care for the character of those attracted to Talk Shows.

If you want an example,listen to 3.840 on the West coast from about midnight on.Listen to the broadcast from the EX Art Bell Fans, judge for your self if that is the level you wish to be associated with. # # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Well Orv, Actually I've never listened to #the man. I did hear that he claimed to be abducted by aliens. You know, like Greg.

"I do not care for the character of those attracted to Talk Shows." # # # # What the hell does that mean?

"If you want an example,listen to 3.840 on the West coast from about midnight on.Listen to the broadcast from the EX Art Bell Fans, judge for your self if that is the level you wish to be associated with." # #

A- I'm in bed by 8:30 every night
B- I haven't been on sideband in years.
C- My 75 meter antenna has such a high take off angle , I can't even hear the west coast.
D- Everyone is entitled to their opinion of Art Bell, Art Bell's listeners, Me, You. Etc, Etc.

KI4NNL

01-08-2007, 02:27 PM

Good or bad, Art Bell is a public figure, and as such is open to commentary and opinion. #If a person does not wish to be under public scrutiny they should not go for "celebrity" status, which, to be fair, he does. #I don't personally know the man so have nothing to say one way or the other, but just because he is a ham should not make him immune to commentary.

KD6NIG

01-08-2007, 03:47 PM

"Opinions are like a-holes.....everybody has one."
-Dirty Harry in "The Dead Pool"

K6UEY

01-08-2007, 03:51 PM

KI4NNL,
So what you are saying if I understand it , some one chooses to be good at his profession so as to put him in the public spot light then it is OK to attack his wife and family. If that is your position I will have to whole heartily DISAGREE with it.

To be a civilized Nation we as individuals MUST show some civility.You may offer commentary as to your opinion of the individual, #but it should stop at the person in the lime light and his family should be out of bounds.After all they are not the ones in the lime light, so why should they be forced to endure your personal prejudice about the actions of another ?? # # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

K9STH

01-08-2007, 05:04 PM

I don't think that this thread is in all that good taste. HOWEVER, the same thing can be said about a good number of the threads in this particular forum.

Thus, the question arises: Do those of you who's "ox got gored" by this thread want ALL of those "other" threads deleted as well?

I didn't think so!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

k9kjm

01-08-2007, 05:51 PM

YES! #Dump them all! # #
The "Rules of the Road" for QRZ.com is NO HATE or personal attacks. #
ANY thread with such vile stuff should be deleted.

This thread clearly violates several rules.

kf6rdn

01-08-2007, 06:19 PM

In my opinion, I think the "personal attacks" apply to personally attacking another on here.

I don't personally agree with the poster, but he did not attack an amateur, he commented on "Art Bell's show". he just happens to also be an amateur.

If this is deleted then they would also have to delete the "George Bush is a retard" and the "Nancy Pelosi is an ugly old battleax" posts.

Then were would be be, besides having an empty "Ragchew" section?

N6BOA

01-08-2007, 09:58 PM

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Jan. 08 2007,10:04)]I don't think that this thread is in all that good taste. HOWEVER, the same thing can be said about a good number of the threads in this particular forum.

Thus, the question arises: Do those of you who's "ox got gored" by this thread want ALL of those "other" threads deleted as well?

I didn't think so!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
Agreed.

Barb, n6boa
One of the QRZ.com moderators

wd0ct

01-08-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Jan. 08 2007,11:19)]In my opinion, I think the "personal attacks" apply to personally attacking another on here.

I don't personally agree with the poster, but he did not attack an amateur, he commented on "Art Bell's show". he just happens to also be an amateur.

If this is deleted then they would also have to delete the "George Bush is a retard" and the "Nancy Pelosi is an ugly old battleax" posts.

Then were would be be, besides having an empty "Ragchew" section?
We could always go back to mashed potatoes and trimming toenails. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

K6UEY

01-08-2007, 11:11 PM

I agree with DELETING them ALL.
If you start deciding which violations are good and which violations are bad it is a slippery slope. If it violates the "RULES of the ROAD" then it is a VIOLATION and MUST be deleted.
There are too many Moderators with differing levels of what is right and what is wrong. You all must work fromthe SAME standard, # DELETE ALL VIOLATIONS !!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

nx6d

01-08-2007, 11:25 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 08 2007,15:11)]I agree with DELETING them ALL.
If you start deciding which violations are good and which violations are bad it is a slippery slope. If it violates the "RULES of the ROAD" then it is a VIOLATION and MUST be deleted.
There are too many Moderators with differing levels of what is right and what is wrong. You all must work fromthe SAME standard, # DELETE ALL VIOLATIONS !!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
It's really pretty simple.

Trash a public figure, it's ok. It's pretty clear that's allowed, based on the content of the postings. Art Bell is a public figure who doesn't post here and happens to be a ham.

Trash an active member of the board, it isn't ok, well, most of the time.

UEY, you think anyone who trashes W should be banned. Hello! Public Figure! Target, whether you like it or not.

The second you trash Cindy Sheehan or some other public figure with your lame "liberal/socialist" claptrap, we'll bring up this thread, just to let you know you should practice what you preach.

Get Extremely Real...

Dave NX6D
Modoc County, CA

K6UEY

01-08-2007, 11:32 PM

NX6D,
Dave my best advice to you would be to STUDY what you PREACH,You don't even make good sense !!

nx6d

01-08-2007, 11:37 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 08 2007,15:32)]NX6D,
Dave my best advice to you would be to STUDY what you PREACH,You don't even make good sense !!
As usual, you're waaaay out there, Orv my man...

al2n

01-09-2007, 04:36 AM

Quote[/b] ] Usual nonsense posted by al2n...............new posters pay no attention.

You can bash anyone you want to around here.

Public figure, forum member, it is all good.

Unless of course you happen to question the powers that be, then you better put on your aluminum foil hat and get ready to be struck down.

You can trash talk Jews, Christians, Muslims, Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics. You can even wish death to a President (unless of course the moderator happens to like that particular President, then you are in trouble) with no ill effects.

This is the wild west of the QRZ forums. Deal with it. You want peace and civility, try the Q&A forum. Unless of course you are a new ham with some questions, then you better stay away from there as well.

k7duv

01-09-2007, 05:22 AM

Hats off to QRZ.COM. This is one great site. Thanks to all you do for Ham Radio. Some may disagree with me, on my views ,but I am just stating the truth (sorry ORV!)
QRZ States
"Discussions of all types unrelated to amateur radio. No explicitly sexual topics. No hate speech. Respectful disagreement is encouraged."

Look I did not say I "hate" Art, And I just stated a fact about listeners of that show. Don't lie and say you have no idea of what I am talking about. And if a 50 something Janitor was caught with some Collage co-ed, it wold be all over the press (except CNN). And finally this subject has to do with amateur radio, is he not a Ham?
BTW>> 4my, That's 12 post wonder to you. You have over 2800 posts, do you have a life?

al2n

01-09-2007, 05:28 AM

There are lots of older/younger relationships out there. It is only wrong if the younger is below the age of consent.

Tony Randall, Demi Moore, Randy Travis, just to name a few. All are married to folks much older or younger than themselves.

Now if they were getting it on with a 15 year old, that would be a problem.

k7duv

01-09-2007, 05:33 AM

Well maybe I am just to old fashioned. And a father of 2 girls.But to me thats sick. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

al2n

01-09-2007, 05:55 AM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 08 2007,22:33)]Well maybe I am just to old fashioned. And a father of 2 girls.But to me thats sick. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I tend to agree with you. But it is legal and is many cultures of the world, quite normal.

al2n

01-09-2007, 05:58 AM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 08 2007,22:55)]K7DUV,
I really have no idea what the hell you are talking about or for that matter who you are,and it is not worth my time to look you up to find out.

I made no comment about you spreading your hate monger comments about ART,If you don't like him then turn to another station or better yet turn your radio off so you can't be made uncomfortable.

I do however NOT APPROVE of you making comments about his or anyone else's family. What they do as long as it is LEGAL is NONE of YOUR DAMN BUSINESS !!

If he was molesting little underage girls then that may be of value to warn others , but who he marries and when and where is none of your concern!!

BTW: I now see why you have trouble with reading comprehension my posting is over 5120 not counting this one, I fail to see what my post count has to do with this topic, but then I don't smoke the same stuff you do !! Who counts your change for you when you are shopping ?? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Work on your reading skills.

He was talking to 4MY, not UEY when he mentioned the 2800 posts.

Quote[/b] ]BTW>> 4my, That's 12 post wonder to you. You have over 2800 posts, do you have a life?

You bash the man for personal attacks, then make a personal attack yourself by alluding that he is a pothead and cannot count?

Sheesh!

K6UEY

01-09-2007, 06:05 AM

AL2N,
Tnx for decyphering that for me,I'm not that good with teeny-bopper shorthand.
Turn about is always FAIR play ........... #73, # ORV

kf6rdn

01-09-2007, 06:15 AM

Quote[/b] (ku4my @ Jan. 08 2007,20:45)]If he stuck to blasting Art and George Noory, or whoever his lame replacement is, that would be one thing.....
Snoory.. As in you snorey when you listen to him.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kd7rto

01-09-2007, 07:10 AM

If family members of public figures are off limits, then why doesn't anyone object when the Bush daughters get a little too wild and make the news?

K6UEY

01-09-2007, 09:31 AM

W2AMR,
George ,would you mind posting that again in ENGLISH ??

K1OU

01-09-2007, 09:39 AM

Orv, why do you hate America so much? #Is it because we are getting our asses kicked in Iraq, and you support the moron who is responsible for 3000 dead Americans?

K6UEY

01-09-2007, 10:02 AM

As I recall you were booted off here once before for starting trouble.
Our conversation has just ended.............................. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

n2nh

01-09-2007, 03:45 PM

Quote[/b] ]What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager

Maybe I'm missing this. I've looked in a lot of places and have yet to see any verifiable source on his new wifes age. All I've seen is that she's supposed to have graduated college. How old is she?

BTW, Art is 61.

K9STH

01-09-2007, 04:55 PM

Enough is enough!

Cut the attacks on other people who post or risk banning. As for Art Bell and any other public figure, you can have your choice: Either EVERY thread having to do with a public figure (and those include G. W. Bush, Pelosi, etc.) will be deleted and those persons who post similar ones will be given at least a "time out", or you can quit bitching about the subject matter.

Your choice!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

kc7jty

01-09-2007, 05:20 PM

blip

kb7dsd

01-09-2007, 05:39 PM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,08:01)]ART BELL PUPPETS GO HOME
The king of doom. What a joke. In the 70s we were going to run out of oil, run out of electricity, natural gas .The World is coming to an end. In the 1980s the planet was going to be destroyed, we were going to run out of oil again. #Remember Y2K? HEY we are still alive! The list goes on.... Wolf People are going to control our minds, or is that HAARP? oh well. CBers are going to take over the planet with HAARP anyway. We are all going to die in 2012. #haha. Remote View That Major nut case. #The people that listen to his show are nut bags! BTW. What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager (or is she20?) and gets her PG? (sick-o) The 3840 boys are way better entertainment.
Here is guy intent on starting another fight on QRZ. Fred you banned KE7AUW and yet you let these characters post this kind of stuff. Where are the moderators NOW!

KD6NIG

01-09-2007, 06:19 PM

Someone grab the emergency cord before this train leaves the tracks!

w2amr

01-09-2007, 10:15 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Jan. 09 2007,02:31)]W2AMR,
George ,would you mind posting that again in ENGLISH ??
Post what? It's gone. I guess it was deleted.

w2amr

01-09-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Jan. 09 2007,11:19)]Someone grab the emergency cord before this train leaves the tracks!
Hell with that, I'm jumping off now. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

wv6z

01-10-2007, 02:48 AM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,23:22)]Hats off to QRZ.COM. This is one great site. Thanks to all you do for Ham Radio. Some may disagree with me, on my views ,but I am just stating the truth #(sorry ORV!)
QRZ States
"Discussions of all types unrelated to amateur radio. No explicitly sexual topics. No hate speech. Respectful disagreement is encouraged."

Look I did not say I "hate" Art, And I just stated a fact about listeners of that show. Don't lie and say you have no idea of what I am talking about. And if a 50 something Janitor was caught with some Collage co-ed, it wold be all over the press (except CNN). And finally this subject has to do with amateur radio, is he not a Ham?
BTW>> 4my, That's 12 post wonder to you. You have over 2800 posts, do you have a life?
Yes sir, Michael, as you are obviously correct, you sir, have must humblest of apologies.

ke7koo

02-05-2007, 09:05 AM

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 07 2007,21:04)]#Today the HF Bands, tommorrow we try to take over the WORLD, Pinky!
I never try, trying is a waist of time.
I do!
The world is mine!!!

The Brain

P.S. None of you are going to die but some of you will become puppets to former CB'ers!!! LMAO

k5xit

02-05-2007, 02:39 PM

N0WVA

02-05-2007, 06:11 PM

I dont see what was so terrible about the original post in the first place.

kg6top

02-05-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote[/b] (k7duv @ Jan. 07 2007,14:01)]What 58yr old man hooks up with a freek'n teenager (or is she20?) and gets her PG? (sick-o)
Someone a little jealous here? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

K6UEY

02-05-2007, 09:52 PM

That's part of the problem with these people who whine and cry about some one else's business they seldom get the facts right .Art is 61 years old . http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

KG6YTZ

02-06-2007, 04:17 AM

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Jan. 08 2007,00:34)]The Y2K "disaster" was an obvious fraud. The reason it was so easy to tell is that #it involved computers and programs thatonly used the last 2 digits of the year. When they rolled over they would go to 00 and the machine would treat that as the date 1900 rather than 2000.
I used to run some BBS software that apparently stored the year in a single byte and simply tacked a "19" in front of that value. At the turn of Y2K, rather than setting civilization back a hundred years, this software catapulted us over 17,000 years into the future. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif [After 1999 came 19100.]

What were we talking about, now...? Oh, yeah. Art Bell.

I've listened to bits and pieces of the show here and there, but there's only so much blatant crackpottery I can take before I have to get back to reality. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif And whomever Art chooses to marry is none of my business.

k7duv

02-06-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote[/b] (ke7koo @ Feb. 05 2007,02:05)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Jan. 07 2007,21:04)] Today the HF Bands, tommorrow we try to take over the WORLD, Pinky!
I never try, trying is a waist of time.
I do!
The world is mine!!!

The Brain

P.S. None of you are going to die but some of you will become puppets to former CB'ers!!! LMAO
To "the brain" I like your style...hahaha

KB9YCO

02-11-2007, 06:37 PM

Eeesh, it's just entertainment folks, lighten up. I usually agree or am interested in the show about ten percent of the time, usually when it is technology or science related, but I look at the show for what it is, entertainment. Most times I am entertained even though I might think it is a bunch of BS, other times I just use that amazing invention called the knob and move on with my life.

As far as the comments about Art personally I can't imagine that he really cares what someone on a website has to say anyway, I know I don't care what people say about me and I am certainly no public figure. While perhaps the comments were not in good taste he is a public figure and open to public scrutiny and criticism, it comes with the job.

I'm still wondering what Art has to say about the dropping of code, I haven't heard him reference it yet, though I don't listen all the time so perhaps I missed it.

I kind of wondered what Joe Walsh thought about it too. Once in awhile Joe used to be on The Steve Dahl show (http://www.dahl.com) out of Chicago (they even demonstrated long distance use of amateur radio one day, I think it was 20 meters) but I haven't heard any comments from Mr. Walsh on the subject either. Not that it matters what celebrity hams think, but as a fan I was just curious.

Either way, lighten up, Coast To Coast is just a radio show, no big deal, an interesting show, but still just a show. Don't sweat the small stuff, life is too short.

K6UEY

02-11-2007, 07:06 PM

KB9YCO,
Bret, my original objection was to the fact they were bad mouthing not only Art ,as you say IS a public figure, and a SUCCESSFUL ONE ,any time some one is successful in this 21st Century Society they become the subject of ridicule,that is the NEW American way.

My objection is the inclusion of his family members and friends,they ARE NOT public figures,common courtesy would dictate they be excluded, but this bad mouthing has become such a Psychotic obsession to some, that there is no longer any trace of #common decency to find.

Where does it end ,with the cat ,the dog ,how about digging up past relatives and trying to find dirt to spread around (pun intended) it has no end point !!

I do not find Talk Shows the least bit rewarding, whether it be Rush ,or Art or the comedian Franken. That does not mean they can not be worth while for others, different strokes, for different folks !!

I still say that of all the Forums on the Internet QRZ remains the best place for those different folks to post !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

KB9YCO

02-11-2007, 07:11 PM

I agree with you that it is perhaps not in good taste, but unfortunately anyone connected to a public figure, especially immediate family, are going to be scrutinized just by virtue of the fact that they are so closely associated with the celebrity in question. Does that make it a nice thing to do? Not at all, but as you say, it is the American way, free speech and all. I don't agree with it, and I don't see what it accomplishes other than stirring the pot (I believe that was the point), but I don't know that you can ask for it to be deleted just because we may think it is in poor taste and/or unfair. The good with the bad...

K6UEY

02-11-2007, 07:50 PM

NO I guess it is the way of the new breed!! We could NEVER expect them to change their ways just because their actions are unethical,immorale ,unfair, and anti-social,that would be placing an unjustified burden on the new generation !!

After all it must be some where in the Constitution that gives them the right to act like a total ass if that is their desire !!

Most have not done a days work to provide them selves with any thing of value, so this is not the time to expect any more of them !!

Amateur Radio is again a reflection of the general society,if one is not qualified,then rather than restrain them to their limits, it is better to lower the standards to the point they do qualify for.
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ad4mg

02-11-2007, 08:07 PM

Quote[/b] ]Where does it end ,with the cat ,the dog ,how about digging up past relatives and trying to find dirt to spread around (pun intended) it has no end point !!
Kinda reminds one of those known as "Kennedy", eh? All family members are fair game.

KB9YCO

02-11-2007, 09:06 PM

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Feb. 11 2007,14:50)]NO I guess it is the way of the new breed!! We could NEVER expect them to change their ways just because their actions are unethical,immorale ,unfair, and anti-social,that would be placing an unjustified burden on the new generation !!

After all it must be some where in the Constitution that gives them the right to act like a total ass if that is their desire !!

Most have not done a days work to provide them selves with any thing of value, so this is not the time to expect any more of them !!

Amateur Radio is again a reflection of the general society,if one is not qualified,then rather than restrain them to their limits, it is better to lower the standards to the point they do qualify for.
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Actually the guarantee of free speech within the Constitution does indeed give people the right to say stupid things as long as they do not break the law. So, yes, actually you are correct, there is that right, be it somewhat abused and misused these days, that is again the price of a free society. I don't know that I would call it "unethical" or "immoral" but rather just kind of mean-spirited or rude. Not to mention unecessary.

And I really hate to add this debate to this thread Orv since it never goes anywhere, but alas I cannot resist since you brought it up. To say that newer or prospective amateur radio operators are responsible for the newest round of changes in amateur radio structuring is simply inaccurate in terms of history. These changes were implemented by long time amateurs within the ARRL, the various VEC groups, and similar other groups in an effort to attract new people, but not necessarily at the behest of new people. Time and time again I see the blame getting laid on the new "lazy" brand of hams, but a comprehensive look at what has happened will show that the reality has more to do with numbers and contemporary standards worldwide (namely the code requirement) and less to do with people wanting a free ride. Certainly there are some that do want a free ride, but for the most part I think newer radio operators may not only be largely unaware of what has transpired in comparison to what used to be, but also in these days of so many other distractions away from amateur radio, are also just trying to be a part of amateur radio in whatever form it is currently in. You can't exactly expect someone seeking an amateur license to demand the older and harder testing when it is not required and not offered. All you can do as a seasoned amateur is encourage them to embrace the traditions of amateur radio and continue to learn about the fundamentals of radio and electronics.

Sorry, just had to say it, I know this topic has probably gone around in circles a thousand times since I've been away and the changes have taken place, but it struck me that I needed to say something. Like I said, I can't help myself, too much time on a Sunday afternoon I guess. (I still want to know what Art and Joe think about it! Someone send an email!!)

wa9cwx

02-11-2007, 10:53 PM

Art mentioned the dropping of the code a few weeks ago, and commented that it was basicly 'about time', or some other favorable comment. He felt it was an archaic bit of hurdle, that needed to be side-stepped. He DID, however, mention it in terms of respect for the role code played in communication, and the fact that he did have to learn it, he was not "anti-code", he just felt it was time to retire the requirement.

My $0.02

I did not think the original post was all that inflamatory, just moderately "Informationly Handicapped", or whatever. #Art's show is VERY popular, his guests are USUALLY well qualified, and their points of view are often on the cutting edge of thought.

Now I am refering to his weekend show, I have never caught him during the week, and I have only listened for about five years. He has been on the air some 35 years I think, but I am not sure.

What I HAVE noticed, is his lack of personal insults, lack of goading, or, unless the caller is a total nut case, his lack of snide innuendo. #I find THAT a pleasant enviornment.
I have heard some recordings of earlier shows, he was less polite, more abrupt, and less tolerant, years ago.

But overall, he gets the best out of his guests, gives them a chance to sink or swim on their own, and tries to be basicly balanced when presented with controversy.

And YES, it is meant to be first and foremost entertainment.

I do not listen to other talk radio, I would if they used CW, but that is not likely.

But I do enjoy MOST of what I have heard on Art's show, and, I have read a good number of the books recomended by his guests, probably ten or more a year, many of which are well written, and, at the least, interesting.

As for his guests buying degrees, I don't know, but most recent books that I have from his guests are all rather legit. Bruce Lipton PhD. "Biology of Belief", a Medical School Cell Physiologist, Steven Greer, M.D. , ER Physician, James Sparks, a top real estate developer. ALL legit people, all competent, and all entertiningly well informed and "out there'.

I am glad I am a listener.
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MGthemidget

01-02-2008, 06:36 PM

Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Jan. 09 2007,09:55)]Enough is enough!

Cut the attacks on other people who post or risk banning. #As for Art Bell and any other public figure, you can have your choice: #Either EVERY thread having to do with a public figure (and those include G. W. Bush, Pelosi, etc.) will be deleted and those persons who post similar ones will be given at least a "time out", or you can quit bitching about the subject matter.

Your choice!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
bump

K5RCD

01-02-2008, 06:57 PM

OOPS. See my other post.

K5RCD

01-02-2008, 07:01 PM

Quote[/b] (N3ATS @ Jan. 07 2007,19:32)]Listening to his show is like watching professional wrestling. #You know it's BS, but it's entertaining anyway.

Kinda like Al Gore !

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8199/ddd4an.jpghttp://blogs.venturacountystar.com/vcs/dennert/archives/051031_Gore.jpg # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kc2orw

01-02-2008, 07:15 PM

It's entertainment for insomniacs, tv at weird hours can get pretty bad too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Plus Art is a lucky dog to be able to marry a 20 some odd year old http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

k4kyv

01-02-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ Jan. 08 2007,01:04)]Art Bell is fun to listen to.
He does not attack anyone, he does not allow attacks on the show.
Unlike another talk show host I know.

w2amr

01-02-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote[/b] (MGthemidget @ Jan. 02 2008,11:36)]Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Jan. 09 2007,09:55)]Enough is enough!

Cut the attacks on other people who post or risk banning. #As for Art Bell and any other public figure, you can have your choice: #Either EVERY thread having to do with a public figure (and those include G. W. Bush, Pelosi, etc.) will be deleted and those persons who post similar ones will be given at least a "time out", or you can quit bitching about the subject matter.

Your choice!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
bump
Great bump, I love the classics. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif