CQIR - IRELAND CALLING

[g4tut]

CQIR - IRELAND CALLING

In 2007, the Irish Radio Transmitters Society celebrates the 75th anniversary of its founding in 1932.

As part of the jubilee celebrations, the Society is organising an International Radio Contest, "CQIR -
Ireland Calling." #For this event, references to Ireland mean the island of Ireland and it's offshore islands - both EI and GI.

CQIR is a once-off event with a difference - the difference being that we overseas entrants with 75 or more QSOs have the opportunity to win a trip to Ireland!

Full rules and county codes on http://www.irts.ie.



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[kb9wgv]

Heres a question: What would a US politician do if faced with this dilema? Would they take the trip, or turn it down on the basis of ethics? mmmmm?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif I wonder?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gifhttp://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kb9wgv]

Wouldn't pecuniary interest include; ARRL dues? Supporting local HAM clubs when they are constantly having giveaways? Taking donations from private sources for your club?

[N8NOE]

Quote[/b] (kb9wgv @ Jan. 01 2007,04:32)]Heres a question: What would a US politician do if faced with this dilema? Would they take the trip, or turn it down on the basis of ethics? mmmmm?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif I wonder?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gifhttp://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Take the Trip and HUSH it up (Ethics? When did that ever happen, But with the passing of G.R.Ford I might re-word it for myself).... As for the Second Post, It's like Bingo at Church, It's Not Legal but Everyone does it, so is it really a crime, or do the just look away..
Also, How Serious is someone about sending "Me" to Ireland? Sounds too good to be true, Right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ne6ao]

You guys would probly f==up a perfectly harmless wet dream.
Iam here to have fun with ham radio and have been operatin with the idea
that it opens up opportunities to experience other cultures and ways to have fun',merry ho ho to all of youse guys.

Quote[/b] (kb9wgv @ Jan. 01 2007,04:34)]Wouldn't pecuniary interest include; ARRL dues? Supporting local HAM clubs when they are constantly having giveaways? Taking donations from private sources for your club?
Pecuniary interest would not include the items you listed...unless you were taking credit card numbers over the air. Things you do in support of amateur radio off the air do not apply to the pecuniary interest cite...IMHO.

I bet contest awards and rewards are in that gray area... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Besides a trip to Eire would give you the chance to catch a leprechaun and when he reveals to you where a hidden crock of gold is, your worries are over... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[w4tsa]

Should anyone who won things at hamventions etc..be thought of as recvng pecuniary interest. HMMMMM???

[KW0U]

There used to be a trip to Bermuda for the winner of the annual on-air contest. Never heard there was any problem with that. As a non-attorney I think the point of the rule was to avoid commercial station-type operations. Best advice I can give: don't ask the FCC for clarification!

[ki4sil]

As long as the prize can not be converted to cash (cash taken in lieu of) then the prize *may* not be pecuniary in nature.

This is the view taken in some jurisdictions for tax purposes. A similar issues arises for tax payers considered professional gamblers and whether they are liable to tax on winnings that can not be converted to cash and are not "goods". Some people get away with it when they have been on a game show two or three times (on seperate occasions) and the third time they win they only win a holiday that can not be taken as cash in lieu. I'm not a tax lawyer so don't flame me if I got the specifics wrong.

...i have too much time on my hands this afternoon.

VK2NDA / KI4SIL

[N5VRZ]

Having read the rules, I think the whole issue of 97.113 (a) (3) volation is moot. Two trips being given away to those qualifying by activity level falls into the same category as door prizes, whether at club banquets, hamventions, or special events. Just because the prize is offered to operators based on amateur radio contacts, that does not equal pay for contacts. And, pointing out the inability to convert the winnings into a cash in lieu payout absolutely negates any sort of violation. Interesting idea and discussion, but I think we're safe calling CQ IR, logging and entering the contest.

[GI0KPF]

Fine business on the comments about the prize for contacts my question when did the irish regulations come under the controle of the us athorities?