Before I wade into the plethora of repies..

[W1GUH]

I've seen Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and Fahrenhiet 911.

How about you?

[WB2WIK]

I've seen those three.

But I've also seen all the Mickey Mouse movies, and all of Marilyn Monroe's, too. I really love films and have seen more than almost anyone I know, with the exception of some older than me and a few film critics who get paid for it.

Wasn't sure which "MM" you were referring to.

If it was baseball, I'd have known right away. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif The Mick used to by my 2-block-down neighbor in Hillside, NJ back in 1956.

WB2WIK/6

[WB2WIK]

Re: MM movies, I forgot...I've seen "8 Mile," Eminem's movie, also. His real initials are MM, too.

Thought it was a very good film.

[KC9ECI]

I was done with anything that guy had to do after Roger and Me.

[N4AUD]

None of them. I've been exposed to a lot of propaganda, why subject myself to more (or Moore)?

[wa4brl]

Thought you meant Marilyn Monroe movies...
"The Seven Year Itch", "Some Like it Hot", "The Misfits", et al.

Still, I was more intrigued by the tantalizing thought of repies. (Recycled pies??) I had hoped there might be some apple or blueberry ones in there.

[KI4PEQ]

"Roger and Me" and "TV Nation" were enough to swear me off of any more of Michael Moore's visual tripe.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Dec. 22 2006,22:02)]"Roger and Me" and "TV Nation" were enough to swear me off of any more of Michael Moore's visual tripe.
What was so bad about Roger and Me ? Is explaining how large corporations callously screw over vast communities of hard working Americans too much to take ?

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 22 2006,17:41)]I've seen Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and Fahrenhiet 911.

How about you?
I saw Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and F-911. I thought they were pretty good. However I must admit, in Bowling for Columbine MM was pretty obnoxious in his blatant attacks against the gun and bullet industry and sellers. He should have focused more on the incident and the psychological aspects and less on his hatred for the gun industry and Americans like myself who like guns.

[K0RGR]

I saw "Bowling for Columbine" and " Fahrenheit 9/11".

I thought his treatment of Charlton Heston was way out of line in "Bowling", but I still enjoyed the film immensely. There's a lot of argument about the statistics he used in the film, but those I've checked myself check out OK, or at least arguably OK. I did not buy his theory about why Americans are so prone to gun crime, even compared to other countries where guns are present. But it's enough to know that there is a huge difference in the gun crime between Michigan and the adjoining urban areas of Canada.

"Fahrenheit" was similarly over the top, but made you really wonder about all the obviously cozy relationships between the Bush family and the Saudi royal family, and in turn, the Bin Laden family, and real reasons for our invasion of Iraq.

[W1GUH]

Thanks so far. This is pretty much a survey to find out just how many people who criticize his movies have actually seen them, so I'm going to just sit on the topic for about 72 hours to try to find that out.

So far, I find the results very interesting.

Paul

[n2nh]

I have seen Farenheit 9/11 and was impressed by the first 2/3rds of it. The rest was pretty much filler. Still, not bad and still very informative.

[KI4SQT]

I have seen his movies...I like to try to understand the thought process of those that wish to alter my rights as granted in the constitution...as in..."know your enemy"
What a clown...

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Dec. 23 2006,10:40)]I have seen his movies...I like to try to understand the thought process of those that wish to alter my rights as granted in the constitution...as in..."know your enemy"
What a clown...
It is true that in Bowling for Columbine that Mike Moore tried to pass the blame for the Columbine incident on legal gun owners and dealers. Indeed, his annoying assaults on stores and dealers that legally sell guns and bullets were obnoxious and absurd.

However, beyond the gun issue do you feel there was no validity to many of the verifiable claims he made regarding inconsistencies between the Bush administration and 911 and the Iraq war ? While you may not like Michael Moore and some may view him as the liberal enemy of America at least he raised some important questions that were worthy of being raised and that the administration has still failed to respond to. Important questions that should be of concern to every American regardless of ones rightness or leftness. Questions that the public has a right to demand answers to. At least Moore raised questions when the mainstream medaa was feeding us "gung-ho, everything is fine" propaganda.

[w2amr]

Yes, I saw them. Roger and me was my favorite. I think Moore has a genuine concern for the working class in this country.

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Dec. 23 2006,13:08)]Yes, I saw them. Roger and me was my favorite. I think Moore has a genuine concern for the working class in this country.
He also has a lot of guts, in all ways possible (nerve, and big belly).

I'm pretty sure he'll keep making films until he runs out of money, even if nobody shows up to watch them. He's a real, honest, old-fashioned filmmaker. I like that.

That he focuses exclusively on documenting political drama make me like it even more.

I thought Bowling for Columbine was absolutely brilliant. Those who see no relationship between gun ownership (lawful or otherwise) and such incidents might try searching for the ends of their noses.

WB2WIK/6

[k6pme]

I have never seen an MM movie nor do I plan to. Not his so-called documentaries anyway. But I don't pay attention to the ultra-right either.

[N2RJ]

I've only seen Fahrenhiet 911.

I like Mike, but I'm not a blind supporter.

[KI6FFF]

I thought Marilyn Manson was a musician/singer (or he thinks he is..).

[KI4SQT]

Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 22 2006,14:34)]Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Dec. 23 2006,10:40)]I have seen his movies...I like to try to understand the thought process of those that wish to alter my rights as granted in the constitution...as in..."know your enemy"
What a clown...
It is true that #in Bowling for Columbine that Mike Moore tried to pass the blame for the Columbine incident on legal gun owners and dealers. Indeed, his annoying assaults on stores and dealers #that legally sell guns and bullets were obnoxious and absurd.

However, beyond the gun issue do you feel there was no validity to many of the verifiable claims he made regarding inconsistencies between the Bush administration and 911 and the Iraq war ? While you may not like #Michael Moore and some may view him as #the liberal enemy of America at least he raised some important questions that were worthy of being raised and that the administration has still failed to respond to. Important questions that should be of concern to every American regardless of ones rightness or leftness. Questions that the public has a right to demand answers to. #At least Moore raised #questions when the mainstream medaa was feeding us "gung-ho, everything is fine" propaganda.
If his intentions are to change the way we do business, and they obviously are, I would rather seem diddle away the rest of his money running for an office where he could actually do something about it...But, he wouldn't get elected, and that would be a good thing for America.

[ka0gkt]

Steamboat Willie was my favorite.

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Dec. 24 2006,21:59)]Quote[/b] (n2ize @ Dec. 22 2006,14:34)]Quote[/b] (KI4SQT @ Dec. 23 2006,10:40)]I have seen his movies...I like to try to understand the thought process of those that wish to alter my rights as granted in the constitution...as in..."know your enemy"
What a clown...
It is true that in Bowling for Columbine that Mike Moore tried to pass the blame for the Columbine incident on legal gun owners and dealers. Indeed, his annoying assaults on stores and dealers that legally sell guns and bullets were obnoxious and absurd.

However, beyond the gun issue do you feel there was no validity to many of the verifiable claims he made regarding inconsistencies between the Bush administration and 911 and the Iraq war ? While you may not like Michael Moore and some may view him as the liberal enemy of America at least he raised some important questions that were worthy of being raised and that the administration has still failed to respond to. Important questions that should be of concern to every American regardless of ones rightness or leftness. Questions that the public has a right to demand answers to. At least Moore raised questions when the mainstream medaa was feeding us "gung-ho, everything is fine" propaganda.
If his intentions are to change the way we do business, and they obviously are, I would rather seem diddle away the rest of his money running for an office where he could actually do something about it...But, he wouldn't get elected, and that would be a good thing for America.
I guess it's a matter of where you are coming from. If you feel Bush is doing a fine job running the country and the war in Iraq then of course you wouldn't want to change the way we do business. But not everyone agrees that the way we are currently doing business is necessarily the best way and for that reason Michael Moore gains credibility.

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (ka0gkt @ Dec. 26 2006,16:31)]Steamboat Willie was my favorite.

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve
Was that the very first MM cartoon?

I've seen it. Not necessarily my favorite, but I think it's from the 30s.

My favorite "MM" moment was watching him throw out the first ball at the Hillside, NJ Little League World Series in 1956. I was 5 years old and still remember that.

My other favorite "MM" movie was "Some Like it Hot."

Guess it depends which MM you're talking about. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[W1GUH]

My reason for starting this thread is to find out who has actually seen a Michael Moore movie. #IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.

I will be soon posting a reply here detailoing my own relationship with Michael Moore, one that is born out of that fact that I grew up a GM brat in Pontiac, Michigan. #I was born in '47, and graduated high school there in '65. #So I was the beneficiary of GM"s (and Pontiac Motor Division's) vast success in those years. #

More later, guys.

[KA7RRA]

Johny Depp Mel Gibson and Mike More movies are on my boycott movie list .

Johny Depp hates america,Mel Gibson is a biggot and Mike More is full of crap

[W1GUH]

And you posted that because?

[KC0VWU]

The only one I've ever seen is Canadian Bacon and that is a great movie.

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 26 2006,01:35)]The only one I've ever seen is Canadian Bacon and that is a great movie.
Perhaps you'd share with us what you mean by that?

I don't have a clue.

73,

Paul

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:36)]Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 26 2006,01:35)]The only one I've ever seen is Canadian Bacon and that is a great movie.
Perhaps you'd share with us what you mean by that?

I don't have a clue.

73,

Paul
Sure, this will get you started.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109370/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Bacon

[W1GUH]

Screw links...in you own words, what do you mean, OM?

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:39)]Screw links...in you own words, what do you mean, OM?
Sorry but if you are too lazy to click then I'm too lazy to explain. sheesh.

[W1GUH]

And if you don't have the cojones to say what you mean, in your own words, you're not worth listeining to. 73, OM

Paul

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:42)]And if you don't have the cojones to say what you mean, in your own words, you're not worth listeining to. 73, OM

Paul
I said what I meant. It is a good movie. If you are unfamiliar with it, click the links. This is not brain surgery or rocket science.

[W1GUH]

OK, thanks for the tip. I hear that, and will check it out.

But, this is about Michael Moore and his movies. So sorry if I had to be brief. Yea, I always check out the links, they're always good and informative. But they were'nt about the subject at hand.

Very nice to meet you.

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:46)]OK, thanks for the tip. I hear that, and will check it out.

But, this is about Michael Moore and his movies. So sorry if I had to be brief. Yea, I always check out the links, they're always good and informative. But they were'nt about the subject at hand.

Very nice to meet you.
This is a Michael Moore movie. It is the only one he made that is not a documentary, it is a comedy. If you can catch it on late night cable it is pretty funny if you are in the right mood. There are a lot of good actors in it.

[W1GUH]

Whoa! Sorry I didn't chatch that...I've GOTTA check it out. Wow...that's a find. Thank you!...

[KC0VWU]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:52)]Whoa! Sorry I didn't chatch that...I've GOTTA check it out. Wow...that's a find. Thank you!...
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Here is a link to it on Amazon.

Canadian Bacon (http://www.amazon.com/Canadian-Bacon-Alan-Alda/dp/B000059TG8/sr=8-1/qid=1167206499/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-8499880-4354562?ie=UTF8&s=dvd)

[W1GUH]

While I go check out those great links...just wanted to get into some detail why I'm so into Michael Moore movies.

Here it is, guys, this isn't supposed to be political...just real. #My experience...my life...

When I was growing up in Pontiac, Michigan, the town was totally supported by General Motors dollars. #In no way more than the bucks that GM sprang for education. #I was that beneficiary of GM's largesse towards education in the public schools I attended. #They poured the money in and, they did such a good job that my public school education earned me a spot in a graduating class of a major east coast university. #Yes, I appreciate, and thank, GM, for this largesse.

Here's the painful part....

Shortly after I graduated from Pontiac Central High School, GM fell upon hard times. #For whatever reason, as a corporation, they had to, well, make ends meet. #What that meant to the community I grew up in, Pontiac, Michigan, was that they could no longer count on GM's bucks to run the town...that the schools could no longer support any extra-curricular activities. #That's true.

If fact, the withdrawal of GM's money from Pontiac meant VERY HARD TIMES for the community.

This is what I've lived.

Look...Roger and Me says it all about what it was like for GM towns in SE Mich in those days. #What Michael expressed in that movie is REAL! #

And, for that, I say, BLESS YOU, MICHAEL, for expressing what we all want to say about, well, everything.

Yea, I know...capitalism says none of you should give a S*()A#& about this. #Well, good for you. #We lived it. #Did you?

[W1GUH]

And to point this out...

Michael Moore hocked everything he had, and borrowed, to produce Roger and Me. #It was an effort of love from a total unknown.

It went on to earn an Academy Award. #It hit a nerve.


That's real history.

[w2amr]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 27 2006,00:35)]The only one I've ever seen is Canadian Bacon and that is a great movie.
Speaking of bacon, where the hell has he been?

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,23:22)]My reason for starting this thread is to find out who has actually seen a Michael Moore movie. IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. You don't count.
Wwhhoooaaa!!

Who the hell died, and left YOU the owner of QRZ to tell people to "shut the hell up" , and they don't count? Just because you started a stupid thread??

[KG6JTB]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 26 2006,01:49)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:46)]OK, thanks for the tip. #I hear that, and will check it out.

But, this is about Michael Moore and his movies. #So sorry if I had to be brief. #Yea, I always check out the links, they're always good and informative. #But they were'nt about the subject at hand.

Very nice to meet you.
This is a Michael Moore movie. It is the only one he made that is not a documentary, it is a comedy. If you can catch it on late night cable it is pretty funny if you are in the right mood. There are a lot of good actors in it.
Michael Moore is a scumy opportunist who has made more money on 9/11 than he would ever admit.

He should be a Republican with all that money, but being a liberal bashing, fake documentary screen writer is just too damn lucrative.

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Dec. 26 2006,22:41)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,23:22)]My reason for starting this thread is to find out who has actually seen a Michael Moore movie. #IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.
Wwhhoooaaa!!

Who the hell died, and left YOU the owner of QRZ to tell people to "shut the hell up" , and they don't count? Just because you started a stupid thread??
Because, my friend, I actually believe that when discussing a work of art, like Fahrenheit 911, the first qualification of anyone commenting is that that individual has actually viewed the work.

IMHO, anyone who criticizes a work without actually having experienced it, is not qualified to be a part of the conversation, and anythiing you have to say is irrelevant. #OK?

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (KG6JTB @ Dec. 26 2006,23:46)]Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 26 2006,01:49)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,02:46)]OK, thanks for the tip. #I hear that, and will check it out.

But, this is about Michael Moore and his movies. #So sorry if I had to be brief. #Yea, I always check out the links, they're always good and informative. #But they were'nt about the subject at hand.

Very nice to meet you.
This is a Michael Moore movie. It is the only one he made that is not a documentary, it is a comedy. If you can catch it on late night cable it is pretty funny if you are in the right mood. There are a lot of good actors in it.
Michael Moore is a scumy opportunist who has made more money on 9/11 than he would ever admit.

He should be a Republican with all that money, but being a liberal bashing, fake documentary screen writer is just too damn lucrative.
OK...and your point is?....

[K0HWY]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,02:22)]IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.
NEWS BREAK: Your humble opinion is not the law of the land. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #

As for Moore, I've not seen any of his "works of art" in their entirety but I did make it through about half of 'F 911' before I had all I could handle. The film, nothing more than a Grade B sci-fi flick, would probably have been ok if it hadn't had a political motive behind it... and if I happened to be a sci-fi fan. If I want political lies, I'll tune in on a presidential press conference. I don't want to be bothered with such bs when I'm wanting to be entertained.

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 27 2006,01:07)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,02:22)]IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.
NEWS BREAK: Your humble opinion is not the law of the land. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #

As for Moore, I've not seen any of his "works of art" in their entirety but I did make it through about half of 'F 911' before I had all I could handle. The film, nothing more than a Grade B sci-fi flick, would probably have been ok if it hadn't had a political motive behind it... and if I happened to be a sci-fi fan. If I want political lies, I'll tune in on a presidential press conference. I don't want to be bothered with such bs when I'm wanting to be entertained.
Thank you for your comments.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 28 2006,00:07)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,02:22)]IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.
NEWS BREAK: Your humble opinion is not the law of the land. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #

As for Moore, I've not seen any of his "works of art" in their entirety but I did make it through about half of 'F 911' before I had all I could handle. The film, nothing more than a Grade B sci-fi flick, would probably have been ok if it hadn't had a political motive behind it... and if I happened to be a sci-fi fan. If I want political lies, I'll tune in on a presidential press conference. I don't want to be bothered with such bs when I'm wanting to be entertained.
Why do you call it a sci-fi flick ? Much of the information in the film is factual and verifiable. Quite a few commentaries in the film came right out of the mouths of our leadership. Moore drew a great deal of attentiuon to the close ties between the Saudi's,the bin Ladens and the Bush administration as well as insights into why going to was in Iraq was such a high priority for Bush as well as the lies that were perpetrated by the administration and used as an excuse to bring us into an expensive war, expensive both in monetary cost and in lives. Yes, the film does have a political motive, to provoke thought, To raise awareness of the fallacies of our own government and the behavior of leadershipo and how well or not so well it fullfills the true needs of the nation and peopleit is supposed to represent.

Ask yourself, what bothered you the most about Farenheit 911. Was it that Michael Moore made a political film or, that our own leadership can and does work in a manner inconsistant with the best interests of our own nation,

The very fact that somany people so vehemently lash out and rail against MM's F-911 indicates to me that the film was quite successfull and served it's purpose well. The very factthat some rail so heavilly againstit hints thatthose same people have discovered a glimmer or truthand reality and that the film has gotten them to think about where we are headed.

[n2ize]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,01:43)]And to point this out...

Michael Moore hocked everything he had, and borrowed, to produce Roger and Me. #It was an effort of love from a total unknown.

It went on to earn an Academy Award. #It hit a nerve.


That's real history.
I think Roger and Me was a very good film. It showed the harsh reality about what happens to a town or city who'seconomy is propped up and heavilly supported by a single industry and suddenly that industry goes kerplunk. Even the strongest building will be in danger of collapse if the foundation gives. And GM was like the foundation of that region. It is an ugly reality and Roger and Me clearly showed that ugliness. perhaps that is one reason why some hate the film so much. It is not a pretty film because it portrays the reality of what happens to a town when capitalism fails. And that is yet another realityshown, capitalism, as sacred as we may cherish it, does not always work, and it's failure is not always the result of the common folk, and when it does faillives are destroyed, hopes and dreams are shattered, families are separated and uprooted, and communities that once florished now begin to rot and decay.

Roger and me was very real and for that reason I praise it and for that same reason others condemn it.

[k5xit]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 22 2006,17:41)]I've seen Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and Fahrenhiet 911.

How about you?
Why?

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,22:50)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Dec. 26 2006,22:41)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,23:22)]My reason for starting this thread is to find out who has actually seen a Michael Moore movie. IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. You don't count.
Wwhhoooaaa!!

Who the hell died, and left YOU the owner of QRZ to tell people to "shut the hell up" , and they don't count? Just because you started a stupid thread??
Because, my friend, I actually believe that when discussing a work of art, like Fahrenheit 911, the first qualification of anyone commenting is that that individual has actually viewed the work.

IMHO, anyone who criticizes a work without actually having experienced it, is not qualified to be a part of the conversation, and anythiing you have to say is irrelevant. OK?
That's your opinion, and maybe has some validity, but still doesnt give you the wherewithal to tell people to shut up.

Besides, it's pretty well known he has a very liberal bias just like someone like Ann Coulter has a converative bias, you can make a judgement about the probable content of material from either of those 2.

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (k5xit @ Dec. 27 2006,11:41)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 22 2006,17:41)]I've seen Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and Fahrenhiet 911.

How about you?
Why?
I guess you've completely missed the whole point of the thread. #You question of "why?", and it's a valid question has been completely explained in the body of the replies.

But...thanks for the post.


73,

Paul

[W1GUH]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Dec. 27 2006,21:54)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 27 2006,22:50)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Dec. 26 2006,22:41)]Quote[/b] (W1GUH @ Dec. 26 2006,23:22)]My reason for starting this thread is to find out who has actually seen a Michael Moore movie. #IMHO, anyone who hasn't, and that includes all who have not answered this thread, are not qualified to talk about Michael Moore, and I would ask you to PLEASE SHUT UP in any Michael Moore discussion. #You don't count.
Wwhhoooaaa!!

Who the hell died, and left YOU the owner of QRZ to tell people to "shut the hell up" , and they don't count? Just because you started a stupid thread??
Because, my friend, I actually believe that when discussing a work of art, like Fahrenheit 911, the first qualification of anyone commenting is that that individual has actually viewed the work.

IMHO, anyone who criticizes a work without actually having experienced it, is not qualified to be a part of the conversation, and anythiing you have to say is irrelevant. #OK?
That's your opinion, and maybe has some validity, but still doesnt give you the wherewithal to tell people to shut up.

Besides, it's pretty well known he has a very liberal bias just like someone like Ann Coulter has a converative bias, you can make a judgement about the probable content of material from either of those 2.
Excellent point, OM. #Yea, I acknowledge that my words were a little bit over the top and wrong. #Many apologies for that.

But, my point is, how can anyone comment on a crative work without having viewed it? #I've read post after post, and, in my personal live I've heard comment after comment, about Michael Moore from people who are ignorant about his works...e.g., HAVEN"T SEE ANY of his flicks.

So I'm asking, how can anyone who hasn't seen a Michael Moore movie feel that he/she has any reason to comment? #But I guess that's the American way...speak from hearsay...think you, among everyone, are the one voice we should listen to...meanwhile, never bothering to really check out what you're spouting?

That's what I think of anyone who tries to "speak with authority" about Michael's movies, but you haven't even seen any of them.

OK?

What I think

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (KC0VWU @ Dec. 27 2006,02:35)]The only one I've ever seen is Canadian Bacon and that is a great movie.
Canadian Bacon was one of Moore's films? See, you learn something every day. I saw that one, as well as Farenheit 9/11. Canadian Bacon was great! For all of you who have even thought about a war with Canada, well here's your movie. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif