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kg4kww
12-21-2006, 10:56 PM
ARRL: Answers to Questions about the FCC "Morse Code" Proceeding (http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt05-235/)

I hope this puts an end to this code / nocode stuff once and for all.

Read and heed

KC9ECI
12-21-2006, 10:59 PM
Don't bet the Devil your head on it.

ab8ma
12-21-2006, 11:02 PM
Don't expect a jump in amplifier sales.

N2RJ
12-21-2006, 11:13 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 21 2006,17:56)]ARRL: Answers to Questions about the FCC "Morse Code" Proceeding (http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt05-235/)

I hope this puts an end to this code / nocode stuff once and for all.

Read and heed
As long as people keep starting threads about it, it won't end.

ai4ep
12-21-2006, 11:57 PM
Hey, if we have read any / most / all of the other threads pertaining to this topic, we already have all the answers listed in the link.

So this is just another worthless thread, but THIS time I didnt start it.

hee hee hee http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

ab8ro
12-22-2006, 12:35 AM
Quote[/b] ]
Q. I am a current Advanced licensee. Am I affected by this change?

A. No, this ruling does not impact your license. While no new Advanced class licenses are being issued, current Advanced class licensees will have the same privileges they already enjoy. The R&O does not change operating privileges for Novice, General, Advanced and Amateur Extra class licensees.


haha, what? Why's that in there. Advanced class holders, the edsels of the amateur community.

ac3p
12-22-2006, 01:50 PM
Advanced Class ops are the only ones whose license says they passed a 13 wpm code test.

Our extra licenses won't say we passed anymore than 5 wpm even if we did 20 wpm..

(I'm really not commenting on the dropping of the code ). # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

ai4ep
12-22-2006, 02:09 PM
....so...the EXTRA licenses from the " 20 wpm " days do not have ANY lettering that the " 5 wpm " licenses have ?

Interesting to note.

So both licenses have NO mention of a " wpm " situation ........

Interesting to know about for future reference on a local " agitation / harassment " level by an older amateur to me...in the presence of other local amateurs.

THANK YOU.

N2RJ
12-22-2006, 02:21 PM
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 22 2006,08:50)]Advanced Class ops are the only ones whose license says they passed a 13 wpm code test.

Our extra licenses won't say we passed anymore than 5 wpm even if we did 20 wpm..

(I'm really not commenting on the dropping of the code ). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Big deal. I have my 9Y license to say I passed 13wpm.

ac3p
12-22-2006, 02:59 PM
That fine, but 9Y is not a U.S. prefix and few of us are able to get a non-US ticket.

N8CPA
12-22-2006, 05:41 PM
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 22 2006,09:50)]Advanced Class ops are the only ones whose license says they passed a 13 wpm code test.

Our extra licenses won't say we passed anymore than 5 wpm even if we did 20 wpm..

(I'm really not commenting on the dropping of the code ). # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Except in the case of waivers for 13WPM. There were a few of those, too.

KM5FL
12-22-2006, 08:14 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 21 2006,17:56)]ARRL: Answers to Questions about the FCC "Morse Code" Proceeding (http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt05-235/)

I hope this puts an end to this code / nocode stuff once and for all.

Read and heed
KWW:
Unlike some of the replies to this thread, I would like to thank you for posting this link.. Your last 3 words are the clue to all this..

READ AND HEED, guys, READ AND HEED...

I am so tired of seeing some of our seasoned and knowledgeable hams posting that the Techs now have General priviliges on the HF bands.. Someone on a thread long ago alluded to this very eloquently.. If you OFs are going to elmer these guys, elmer them accurately...

All you guys with questions about how the new "system" works:

READ AND HEED!!!!


KM5FL

K0RGR
12-22-2006, 09:06 PM
A real code test is the ARRL Code PRoficiency Qualifying Run. You have to get solid copy ON THE AIR. The awards go up to 40 WPM, which is 10 WPM faster than I could write with a pencil when I was very young, so all I have is a '30' certificate someplace.

I think this should be the future focus of any gloating about having taken a code test. Got your '40' yet?

kg4kww
12-23-2006, 08:46 PM
Well I hope you all have made good use of the link supplied at the start of this thread.

That link has all the ansawers.

Even my clients are happy with the answers.

N2RJ
12-23-2006, 09:40 PM
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 22 2006,09:59)]That fine, but 9Y is not a U.S. prefix and few of us are able to get a non-US ticket.
I didn't say that you could get one, only that I had one.

kg4kww
12-25-2006, 06:12 AM
Are you Happy?

n0iu
12-25-2006, 06:30 AM
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 22 2006,02:21)]Big deal. #I have my 9Y license to say I passed 13wpm.
Bigger deal...

I have my first Extra license issued before April 15, 2000 which means I passed 20 WPM!

And as far as the ARRL Qualifiying Runs... who needs 'em? I don't need a certificate that says I can do 40 WPM. I have a log book filled with thousands of CW contacts, many of which exceed 40 WPM and those are far more valuable than a lousy certifcate from Newington.

Scott NĜIU

ky5u
12-27-2006, 12:46 PM
Quote[/b] (kg4kww @ Dec. 21 2006,15:56)]ARRL: Answers to Questions about the FCC "Morse Code" Proceeding (http://www.arrl.org/announce/regulatory/wt05-235/)

I hope this puts an end to this code / nocode stuff once and for all.

Read and heed
What is sad is that it took the ARRL to explain it to you guys.

ky5u
12-27-2006, 12:48 PM
Quote[/b] (n0iu @ Dec. 24 2006,23:30)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 22 2006,02:21)]Big deal. I have my 9Y license to say I passed 13wpm.
Bigger deal...

I have my first Extra license issued before April 15, 2000 which means I passed 20 WPM!

And as far as the ARRL Qualifiying Runs... who needs 'em? I don't need a certificate that says I can do 40 WPM. I have a log book filled with thousands of CW contacts, many of which exceed 40 WPM and those are far more valuable than a lousy certifcate from Newington.

Scott NĜIU
Biggest deal:

I passed the code test at 5WPM and took my "Extra Lite" up to near 35WPM now.

ai4ep
12-27-2006, 03:53 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Biggest deal ---

wonder if & when these " notorious " technicians here on qrz that have cried and whined for years that the morse code requirement held them back from upgrading to General & above...when will they pass that " oh-so-simple " written test and become Generals & above...or will they sit by their keyboard and whine now that the written test is too hard ?

Only time will tell.

Sure there problably aint been no tests in the past 10 - 15 days for them to try , but some folks DO & WILL wonder , now that the shoe is on the other foot, what WILL happen ?

Will they

"walk that walk"

or just

"talk that talk" ??

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ;)

ai4ep
12-27-2006, 03:59 PM
Oh, also remember that the basic idea to remove MORSE CODE as a requirement has / was going on since the second day of amateur radios life ( after the first day, of its beginning ), so if it took 75 ( + - ) years to gie rid of the morse code requirement, look at something past all of our lifetimes to eliminate the written test ( if that soon ).

Enjoy the hobby, in what ways you can.

---------------------------

No I did not git any "ham " equipment fer Christmas...never do. Just blue jeans, and sweaters and cards to use at "china mart " .

kg4kww
12-27-2006, 09:08 PM
Are U Happy?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N2RJ
12-27-2006, 09:15 PM
Quote[/b] (n0iu @ Dec. 25 2006,01:30)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 22 2006,02:21)]Big deal. I have my 9Y license to say I passed 13wpm.
Bigger deal...

I have my first Extra license issued before April 15, 2000 which means I passed 20 WPM!

And as far as the ARRL Qualifiying Runs... who needs 'em? I don't need a certificate that says I can do 40 WPM. I have a log book filled with thousands of CW contacts, many of which exceed 40 WPM and those are far more valuable than a lousy certifcate from Newington.

Scott NĜIU
That's awesome.

k4kyv
12-28-2006, 05:52 PM
Then this explains why 3585-3600 has been so quiet since the phone band expansion

From ARRL website:

Q. The FCC issued an Order on Reconsideration involving automatically controlled digital operations previously allowed on 3620-3635 kHz. What is that Order's effect?

A. The FCC Order on Reconsideration states that when it becomes effective, the automatically controlled digital operation formerly allowed on 3620-3635 kHz will now be allowed on 3585-3600 kHz. The change affects Part 97.221 (b). While it is correcting a problem in the R&O for WT Docket 04-140, this change does not take effect immediately but on the date announced in the Federal Register when the R&O is published -- no sooner. Until that time, you may not have unattended automatically controlled digital stations on either the old or the new 80 meter subband.

N0CID
12-28-2006, 07:14 PM
It is not over yet.