Anyone making their "lists" yet?

[W0LC]

I hear both sides on this code testing issue talking about "lists" of who they are not going to work if they hear them on the air, etc.

Surely this is a joke.

I know there are some loud mouths on here that love to troll flame without thought process, and for that, they will reap what they sow. People avoid jerks like that and for good reason.

But on the CW testing issue, are there really lists out there? Surely not, I hope.

I doubt anyone would be honest enough to admit it, but think about it....

[n0nwo]

My list

I will only work hams with atleast one number in their call.

[w5alt]

The only "list" I keep is called a log book.

[kf4vgx]

I normally don't have much to say in these debates,however this post caught my attention.
It shows concern for fellow amateurs and deserves an answer .

Unfortunately there are people who " Will " have a list #
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif .

Best thing to do is not to let it bother you ,work the stations that you enjoy and have a ball .
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #with respect- KF4VGX
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[N2RJ]

I mostly work DX and contests, so no.

[W0LC]

Great answers so far...

I thought I had a list, but the XYL must have gotten it...now I don't know what to get at the grocery store... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Me & my old weak trashy station will always talk to any one I can ( legal of course ) ....finally got rid of that ol' cb hand mike and mebbe now I have some real audio to send out over the airwaves.

I never have discriminated about who I talk to, you have a valid license is all the qualifications I need to know about, plus a valid amateur frequency.

Life is too short for petty grudges. :0

[AG3Y]

I won't work anybody who sends "N N M A N N M A" instead of "CQ CQ" !

They're just too darn HARD to copy ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73, Jim

[W0LC]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 21 2006,09:06)]I won't work anybody who sends "N N M A #N N M A" instead of "CQ CQ" !

They're just too darn HARD to copy ! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #

73, Jim
That's the banana boat swing..you can dance to that!

Beats the guy I heard on 160 the other night..

Bzzft-Bzt-Bfzzt-Bzt
Bzzft-Bzzft-Bzt-Bssft


talk about ac keying...

[W5HTW]

My cats are making a list. They just came back here a few minutes ago telling me in no uncertain terms that I left the fire on under the frying pan and the kitchen is filled with smoke. My senior cat showed me a list of the number of times I have done that in the past year. I think he's smarter than I am.

I hold no animosity toward amateurs in general. But I would indeed have a rough time trying to respect someone who sat on his/her butt for 10-15 years, while begging and whining to "change the rules to suit ME." That isn't going to change for me, not anytime soon.

However ... he/she isn't going to be blacklisted by me. I am not about to look someone up and see if he was a Tech before the new rules go into effect. Even if I could, it wouldn't prove anything. After a bit, it won't be possible anyway. So if that ham calls me on the air, I expect him to do it right, following ham protocols and not CB lingo, and I'll be happy to have a go at it.

I'm planning to just keep doing what I have been doing. I avoid the "10-4s" and the other CB stuff, and work those who are willing to JOIN this hobby instead of divide it, or convert it to CB.

Let's all play in the same sandbox with the same rules.

Ed

[N6BOA]

I have a list....but I doubt Santa will honor it with an IC-756 and a new F-250 crew cab diesel (red).

[N6BOA]

Ed, good on those cats!

[W5IEI]

Quote[/b] (N6BOA @ Dec. 21 2006,12:20)]I have a list....but I doubt Santa will honor it with an IC-756 and a new F-250 crew cab diesel (red).
How 'bout a Cummins turbodiesel?
6 in a row,built to tow http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Mike

[KB3LIX]

I don't need no STEENKIN List !!!!!

I welcome the new people,
and will try to share what miniscule
amount of knowledge I posess.

Maybe I'm a FOOL,
but that's just me.

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[ab8ro]

Who's got a list? Well that just tears it. Give me their calls, I want to know. Hold on, let me get a pen. I'm not working ANY ham who has a list. Ok, got paper, I'm ready, give me those calls.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (ab8ro @ Dec. 21 2006,19:10)]Who's got a list? Well that just tears it. Give me their calls, I want to know. Hold on, let me get a pen. I'm not working ANY ham who has a list. Ok, got paper, I'm ready, give me those calls.


I don't have a list, but don't work 9Y4RAJ or AB2MH for that matter.

In fact anyone who either has a list, or promises not to work anybody, please do me a favor and don't work either of my callsigns.

This is just silly, and it's even sillier to stoop down to their level.

I thought you were more mature than that? Oh wait...

[w5lda]

I figure if someone wont talk to me because of the latest FCC action,I'll be better off anyway

[W5MEJ]

No list here...

I did spend some time today helping with the planning of a 10m antenna installation for a tech...

Does that count?

Chuck

[wd0ct]

I can't believe anyone would even ask such a question.

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (W5IEI @ Dec. 21 2006,14:44)]Quote[/b] (N6BOA @ Dec. 21 2006,12:20)]I have a list....but I doubt Santa will honor it with an IC-756 and a new F-250 crew cab diesel (red).
How 'bout a Cummins turbodiesel?
6 in a row,built to tow :D
Mike
I delivered a 2007 GMC crew cab 4wd with Duramax yesterday. 53 miles on it when I picked it up. And I fell in love. Then I had to return a 95 Izusu 4wd, 5spd, complete with rattles, and uphill all the way. What a letdown - even getting into my old Jeep was a relief after that one. But in that GMC I felt like heading to Kalifornia! (Even had the company's credit card, but I bet they wouldn't have let me get too far!)

Yeah, the cats are faster than the smoke detectors, no joke. This is at least the third time I have burned that old cast iron frying pan - the the third time Little Bud has come running to me and my computer, telling me there is trouble in paradise. He doesn't like smoke. When I lean forward to scratch his ears, I am forced to look down the hallway and see the smoke. "T'anks, Little Bud. I done done it again."

I did Christmas early. A new FT897d in late October. Didn't even have a red stocking on it.

Ed

[N2RJ]

Ed, if I'm buying a new truck, what would you recommend?

I need something with 4WD that works great in the snow, high output alternator (wanna run 500w mobile), crew cab and navigation system.

Either mid size or full size, but no duallies.

[N6BOA]

Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 21 2006,19:01)]Ed, if I'm buying a new truck, what would you recommend?

I need something with 4WD that works great in the snow, high output alternator (wanna run 500w mobile), crew cab and navigation system.

Either mid size or full size, but no duallies.
I can't say enough about my 1999 F-250 crew cab 4x4 power stroke diesel. I can haul a three-horse trailer fully loaded and I don't even feel it. I live in the snow and that truck rocks! The newer ones are even better!

I know the Cummins is quite good. But I'm sold on the FORDS (I know Tom, it's Chevy or die).

Ooops, sorry, off topic http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Edited to apologize for topic changing http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KG6YTZ]

Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 21 2006,08:06)]I won't work anybody who sends "N N M A #N N M A" instead of "CQ CQ" !

They're just too darn HARD to copy ! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
What about T R G T? Is that acceptable? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KD5VSG said:
Quote[/b] ]I figure if someone wont talk to me because of the latest FCC action,I'll be better off anyway
Agreed. IMHO, any operator who refuses to QSO with me for no other reason than my license class, or what he believes I don't know, is not the kind of operator I feel like contacting either.

I should note for the record that I have NEVER had this happen to me.

[PE1RDW]

Sorry, no list here, I'll even work crossband with the unlicenced legal bands (we are alowed to do that in case anyone wonders)

CQ PE1RDW listening on 27.215 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N5PVL]

I operate on 20 or 30 meters most of the time.

The new no-code HF folks however are not very likely to show up there, at least not legally.

These are the people who were too challenged by the code, so all they really got was some SSB voice space on 10 meters - at the very bottom of the sunspot cycle when it's as dead as a post.

They're too 'challenged' to take advantage of the CW space they got on 15 and 40.

So basically, they got nothing. For better or worse, I don't expect to see very many of these people on HF at all.

They wanted something for nothing, so the FCC made sure they got precisely what they had worked for... - Who says the FCC has no sense of humor?

[W0LC]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Dec. 21 2006,18:11)]I can't believe anyone would even ask such a question.
Why is that? I have heard it mentioned numerous times and with the venomous rants and personal attacks by some of the NCI crowd, it wouldn't surprise me to see some of those calls on a "list" somewhere...

reap what you sow I suppose...

[W0LC]

Quote[/b] (N5PVL @ Dec. 22 2006,02:01)]I operate on 20 or 30 meters most of the time.

The new no-code HF folks however are not very likely to show up there, at least not legally.

These are the people who were too challenged by the code, so all they really got was some SSB voice space on 10 meters - at the very bottom of the sunspot cycle when it's as dead as a post.

They're too 'challenged' to take advantage of the CW space they got on 15 and 40.

So basically, they got nothing. For better or worse, I don't expect to see very many of these people on HF at all.

They wanted something for nothing, so the FCC made sure they got precisely what they had worked for... - Who says the FCC has no sense of humor?
You know, there is some truth to some of those statements...

A good many Techs and NCT's that were licensed whenever, aren't even active now. I don't think this issue of testing or even the instant upgrade will draw them back in.

They were uninterested then and I suspect just as uninterested in the hobby now.

In any case, I don't think ARRL will see the growth any more then an initial spike.

[K7JEM]

Quote[/b] (W0LC @ Dec. 22 2006,06:17)]Quote[/b] (N5PVL @ Dec. 22 2006,02:01)]I operate on 20 or 30 meters most of the time.

The new no-code HF folks however are not very likely to show up there, at least not legally.

These are the people who were too challenged by the code, so all they really got was some SSB voice space on 10 meters - at the very bottom of the sunspot cycle when it's as dead as a post.

They're too 'challenged' to take advantage of the CW space they got on 15 and 40.

So basically, they got nothing. For better or worse, I don't expect to see very many of these people on HF at all.

They wanted something for nothing, so the FCC made sure they got precisely what they had worked for... - Who says the FCC has no sense of humor?
You know, there is some truth to some of those statements...

A good many Techs and NCT's that were licensed whenever, aren't even active now. I don't think this issue of testing or even the instant upgrade will draw them back in.

They were uninterested then and I suspect just as uninterested in the hobby now.

In any case, I don't think ARRL will see the growth any more then an initial spike.
The new generals and extras will certainly be able to operate these bands, either on code, psk, rtty, or some other mode. They will be just as legal as anyone else.

The "no code" people got everything. There is no more code test. They won't be limited to some section of ten meters, don't know where you're getting your info, but it's wrong.

Every new license issued after about March will be a "no code" license, thats just the way it is. They will have the same privs as everyone else in their license class.

Joe

[ki4ned]

i promise i will talk to coders!!

[KD6NIG]

The only 'list' I would consider making is one that would commence with my operation on HF.

And this list would only consist of operators who, upon hearing my callsign, choose to chastise me on air about not having code.

If someone politely just cancels the QSO for whatever reason, I won't add them to any list.

The list will start blank.

I won't even add anyone to the list who, on air politely tells me no thank you, but chooses to come on here, get my email address, and chooses to vent thier spleen via the internet.

But I think that any operator who chooses to chastise me on air about the method I used to obtain my licence......does deserve to be on some kind of list.

But that would be the only list I would even consider.

And I would likely label the list "LID" and yes, I would display it on the wall of my shack. Vent on me all you like here, but lets keep it off the air. You don't have to talk to me just because I identify, or possibly in the future, call CQ.

[kc7mrq]

I won't work the callsign KC7MRQ. That bloak is just plain boring.


Corey

[W0LC]

I plan to work anyone as before, with the exception of those that want to incite a verbal tirade on the air, just as some attempt to do on here. I don't bite on troll bait and won't on the air either.

We have enough lids out there, adding more to the bands won't help but hopefully, the FCC will pull a few more licenses as a result.

No list for me, unless it is some idiot and usually, they generate enough fame where a list is moot. Their calls will be well recognized as a few are on here already. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KI4ITV]

I called one of my friends yesterday to tell him of the code change. #He's a Technician because we share a sailing hobby and I suggested using amateur radio intead of marine vhf to communicate casually between our boats. #Too many drunks and crazy fishermen on the marine radios where we hang out. #So basically, I talked him into it. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
He became very excited at the news of the change and will upgrade to at least general very soon. #
He would not have taken the time to learn code because ham radio is secondary to his first hobby. #But, He will make a very good, helpful and smart ham because of the change.
There will probably be many of these higher functioning individuals coming back into the fold or becoming more interested.
It will be good for the hobby.

[W0LC]

Let's hope so. We don't need more whiners and cry babies that have been posting hate rhetoric on here. Please, stay off the bands. We have enough odd balls out there already... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


One can only hope that those SERIOUS about amateur radio will pursue upgrades and contribute.

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (W0LC @ Dec. 22 2006,06:14)]Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Dec. 21 2006,18:11)]I can't believe anyone would even ask such a question.
Why is that? I have heard it mentioned numerous times and with the venomous rants and personal attacks by some of the NCI crowd, it wouldn't surprise me to see some of those calls on a "list" somewhere...

reap what you sow I suppose...
Yeah and there are/were no venomous rants and attacks by the know code crowd. DUUUUUUUHHH

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (W0LC @ Dec. 22 2006,18:50)]Let's hope so. We don't need more whiners and cry babies that have been posting hate rhetoric on here. Please, stay off the bands. We have enough odd balls out there already... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


One can only hope that those SERIOUS about amateur radio will pursue upgrades and contribute.

It is clear to everyone that this thread is another disguised attempt to whine and cry because coders lost.

"One can only hope that those SERIOUS about amateur radio will pursue upgrades and contribute."

Oh yeah, no one can be serious about this hobby without contributing and upgrading... Bullocks

[N1MLF]

I'll QSO with anyone that's willing to conduct themselves civily and in accordance with current regs.
There's already a certain few I prefer to steer clear of on the HF bands due to their general stupidity & fowl language.
So for me it's pretty much a "case by case" basis.

73..JW

[ad4mg]

Quote[/b] ]wd0ct: #It is clear to everyone that this thread is another disguised attempt to whine and cry because coders lost.

That's foolish. #Nobody "lost", except in their feeble little minds. #Ditto for "winners".

The FCC changed the licensing requirements.

So what?

I'll certainly be glad when all this pissing and moaning stops. #I have no doubt that enough potential hams have been put off by this endless drivel to offset any gains that may have been realized by the rules changes.

Who won? #Those who continue to perpetuate the hate.

Who lost? #Amateur Radio - and it's because of all the whiny-assed losers within our ranks.

What will happen now? #I know the answer - it's exactly what we will make happen.

[N5PVL]

Are people really going to keep a list of callsigns not to QSO with?

There are a few hams I would not QSO with, but when it gets to where there are so many that you have to write them down to keep track of them, I'd say that then the idea has been taken too far!

[ai4ep]

All I want for CHRISTmas is ---

for every one to just get along.

Try to treat others like you want to be treated.

...or am I asking too much from YOU ?

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (N6BOA @ Dec. 21 2006,13:20)]I have a list....but I doubt Santa will honor it with an IC-756 and a new F-250 crew cab diesel (red).
I prefer my F-250 crew cab in blue with beige accents.http://members.cox.net/richardray/BlueBeast1a.jpg As for radios, I'm partial to Yaesu gear. Merry Christmas to me, I just bought a FT60 handheld for foxhunting use. That and a fifth-wheel travel trailer to be comfy in for the 2007 Field Day and the Orlando Hamcation in February.

I also concur with AI4EP's wish for all of us to get along and remember we are amateur radio operators FIRST. Our skill in various modes of operation may vary, just as our interests do. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all!

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (kc7mrq @ Dec. 22 2006,11:02)]I won't work the callsign KC7MRQ. That bloak is just plain boring.


Corey
You said it, I didn't, OM. Funny though! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (W5IEI @ Dec. 21 2006,15:44)]Quote[/b] (N6BOA @ Dec. 21 2006,12:20)]I have a list....but I doubt Santa will honor it with an IC-756 and a new F-250 crew cab diesel (red).
How 'bout a Cummins turbodiesel?
6 in a row,built to tow http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Mike
Yes, the Cummins is a great engine. Too bad it's surrounded by a Dodge, what some consider to be a sorry excuse for a truck! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #It could be worse. Your diesel engine could be made by Isuzu! I prefer Japanese products only in the fields of amateur, consumer, and professional electronics.

I like the diesel in my Ford. Ford makes them, International shakes them. Real trucks don't have spark plugs.

[K9VQ]

KI4PEQ, one thing I know that Ford and Isuzu diesels have in common. They both use Caterpillar designed fuel injectors, same goes for the new Perkins ACERT powered Hummv's. If you want a strong diesel, run a CAT.

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (K9VQ @ Dec. 24 2006,17:00)]KI4PEQ, one thing I know that Ford and Isuzu diesels have in common. They both use Caterpillar designed fuel injectors, same goes for the new Perkins ACERT powered Hummv's. If you want a strong diesel, run a CAT.
Rick, my father was a long distance trucker for years. He liked the saying:

CAT POWER: happiness is a p***y that rattles!

Really though, you will find that any given person is partial to their own preferences in trucks. The Dodge guys get better fuel economy than the GMC/Chevy and the Ford guys, a six versus an eight will do that. The Duramax is a good engine as well. But I do like my Power Stroke 6.0, in spite of the checkered reputation it gained in its earliest versions. I get around 11 mpg towing a 8000# house on wheels. It's great to take a little home with you for Field Day activities. It beats sleeping in a tent or in the car!