View Full Version : Hey, what about us Extra Lites ?!
NN4RH
12-20-2006, 06:35 AM
Yeah. That's right. It's not just about Old Farts versus NoCoders. Let us Extra Lites get in on the whine-fest too!!
Old Farts look down on us because we got Extra with only 5 wpm rather than 20 wpm and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham, while at the same time the Codeless Newbs think we're stuck-up Old Farts because we passed a code test and know how to build a dipole.
Yeah. We don't get no respect from nobody. If Rodney Dangerfield was a ham he'd be an Extra Lite.
Waaaaaa. Waaaaa. Waaaaaaaa.
KL7FZ
12-20-2006, 06:45 AM
When my 160 loop sits around the house, it really sits around the house.
When I put up my open wire feeders, my dipole just complained it was fed up!
When I told my wife I was getting a new dish, she left and took the feed with her!
And us 20 WPM Extras aren't real hams because we did not walk up hill both ways barefoot through a blinding snowstorm in the middle of July to the closest FCC office 300 miles away to take our tests from an examiner who's parents weren't married to each other.
Scott NĜIU
KM5FL
12-20-2006, 07:31 AM
Well.......... I'm a 13 wpm, Extra... Where does that leave me?? ?? ?? ??
Extra warm?? Medium Extra?? I know!!! Lo Cal Extra!!!
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KM5FL
K0HWY
12-20-2006, 08:08 AM
In the words of Harvey Korman, "Please gentlemen, rest your sphincters!"
Or from the same movie...
Taggart (played by Slim Pickens) to Hedley Lamarr (play by Harvey Korman), "Golley Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a $20 whore!"
KC0NBW
12-20-2006, 09:21 AM
Quote[/b] (n0iu @ Dec. 20 2006,00:03)]And us 20 WPM Extras aren't real hams because we did not walk up hill both ways barefoot through a blinding snowstorm in the middle of July #to the closest FCC office 300 miles away to take our tests from an examiner who's parents weren't married to each other.
Scott NĜIU
i though all the 20 wpm ofs could do that blindfolded while leading a herd of rabid wolverines at the same time http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
N8CPA
12-20-2006, 09:25 AM
And I'm a Johnny-come-lately because my Novice test was written in English, not Latin.
Morsum nihilominus regnat!
Coders unite
No more extra lite
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Quote[/b] (KL7FZ @ Dec. 20 2006,02:45)]When my 160 loop sits around the house, it really sits around the house.
When I put up my open wire feeders, my dipole just complained it was fed up!
When I told my wife I was getting a new dish, she left and took the feed with her!
"Take my ham rig - - - - - - PLEASE ! ! ! "
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JUST KIDDING ! ! ! Funny stuff !
Quote[/b] (NN4RH @ Dec. 19 2006,23:35)]Yeah. That's right. It's not just about Old Farts versus NoCoders. Let us Extra Lites get in on the whine-fest too!!
Old Farts look down on us because we got Extra with only 5 wpm rather than 20 wpm and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham, while at the same time the Codeless Newbs think we're stuck-up Old Farts because we passed a code test and know how to build a dipole.
Yeah. We don't get no respect from nobody. If Rodney Dangerfield was a ham he'd be an Extra Lite.
Waaaaaa. Waaaaa. Waaaaaaaa.
I'm an Extra Lite and I can do all of that including the 20WPM . What's wrong with YOU? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] ]Old Farts look down on us because we got Extra with only 5 wpm rather than 20 wpm and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham,
Good way to thin the herd a little bit.
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Dec. 20 2006,11:52)]Quote[/b] ]Old Farts look down on us because we got Extra with only 5 wpm rather than 20 wpm and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham,
Good way to thin the herd a little bit.
But can you do it while standing on one leg, dripping wet, with jewelry protruding from around your neck?
w5alt
12-20-2006, 07:06 PM
Yeah, I'm an extra medium, having only taken a 13 WPM CW test. But I did take it at the FCC office.
On the other hand, it was in New Orleans, so I walked downhill both ways to get to and from the FCC office and couldn't find any snow anywhere, although I did sweat a little.
It just ain't fair!
73,
Walt, W5ALT
Quote[/b] ]Morsum nihilominus regnat!
Quid?
Codex Moriscum per omnia saecula!
"excuse me while I whip this out"....
I can remember when I had to take the exam, FCC Reps, quiet uncomfortable room, Number 2 pencil, 20 WPM code tape, lots or writing, sweating, nervous stomach...
And after I had to walk 20 miles to get there, fighting wild bears all the way...
N8CPA
12-20-2006, 07:41 PM
Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 20 2006,15:18)]Quote[/b] ]Morsum nihilominus regnat!
Quid?
Codex Moriscum per omnia saecula!
Regneat per omnia saecula saeculorum!
Quote[/b] ]But can you do it while standing on one leg, dripping wet, with jewelry protruding from around your neck?
Yep, sure! All real Hams can.
Only sissy boys use insulated screwdrivers! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] ]Regneat per omnia saecula saeculorum!
Amen!
kl7aj
12-20-2006, 10:01 PM
Quote[/b] (NN4RH @ Dec. 19 2006,23:35)]Yeah. That's right. It's not just about Old Farts versus NoCoders. #Let us Extra Lites get in on the whine-fest too!!
Old Farts look down on us because we got Extra with only 5 wpm rather than 20 wpm and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham, while at the same time the Codeless Newbs think we're stuck-up Old Farts because we passed a code test and know how to build a dipole.
Yeah. We don't get no respect from nobody. If Rodney Dangerfield was a ham he'd be an Extra Lite.
Waaaaaa. Waaaaa. Waaaaaaaa.
I think they should drop the written test totally and have NOTHING but a code test. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
All code, all the time!
eric
W3MIV
12-20-2006, 10:13 PM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:41)]Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 20 2006,15:18)]Quote[/b] ]Morsum nihilominus regnat!
Quid?
Codex Moriscum per omnia saecula!
Regneat per omnia saecula saeculorum!
Pox vobiscum!
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N8CPA
12-20-2006, 10:19 PM
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 20 2006,18:13)]Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:41)]Quote[/b] (ac3p @ Dec. 20 2006,15:18)]Quote[/b] ]Morsum nihilominus regnat!
Quid?
Codex Moriscum per omnia saecula!
Regneat per omnia saecula saeculorum!
Pox vobiscum!
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Et spirochete.
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KC0NBW
12-20-2006, 10:25 PM
illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
n0nwo
12-20-2006, 10:55 PM
In the old daze they had to walk 30 miles in the snow bareboot to get to a 20wpm code test session. By the time I got into the hobby, we were aloud to use sled dog (but no sled) to get to the test.
Some of the older hams will tell you that antenna's work best when put up during subzero weather. They never wore shoes or gloves. By the time I got into the hobby, we still hung our antennas in subzero weather but wore shoes gloves and sometimes even wore pants.
It seems no matter what class of ham you are, and no matter how long you been a ham, someone always had it harder.
MInton
N8CPA
12-20-2006, 10:56 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You just failed Latin. #The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. #Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. #Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. #Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. We go to irony in lieu of brass.
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KC0NBW
12-20-2006, 11:09 PM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:56)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You just failed Latin. #The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. #Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. #Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. #Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. #We go to irony in lieu of brass.
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as i recall,there is a singular term in the saying
don't let the b------s wear you down.
what i posted is the way i learned it in school, blame the teachers. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
K9ALT
12-20-2006, 11:20 PM
We're all living in a fool's paranoid... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
K9ALT
N8CPA
12-20-2006, 11:20 PM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,19:09)]Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:56)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You just failed Latin. #The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. #Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. #Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. #Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. #We go to irony in lieu of brass.
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as i recall,there is a singular term in the saying
don't let the b------s wear you down.
what i posted is the way i learned it in school, blame the teachers. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Nevertheless "the illegitimate ones" is the subject of the sentence, hence the need for the plural.
I remember, I served a detention once for arguing with a public school teacher about the spelling of "environment." He claimed it was "enviroment." I was new in the public school system and had a long honed habit of keeping a paperback copy of Websters. I showed it to him after class. I spent the detention proofreading his resume.
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KC0NBW
12-20-2006, 11:46 PM
type the phrase into a search engine and see what it comes up with. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Quote[/b] (NN4RH @ Dec. 19 2006,23:35)]and can't neutralize an amplifier blindfolded like a real ham
Why would you need to know how to neutralize an amplifier? Only OF don't ground their grids. ;-)
WA9SVD
12-21-2006, 12:05 AM
Quote[/b] (n0iu @ Dec. 20 2006,00:03)]And us 20 WPM Extras aren't real hams because we did not walk up hill both ways barefoot through a blinding snowstorm in the middle of July to the closest FCC office 300 miles away to take our tests from an examiner who's parents weren't married to each other.
Scott NĜIU
Oh, so you were a late-comer and had the EASY test? At least in July, it was warmer than in the middle of January. ;-)
(Can't say I did the Extra before an FC examiner. [Extra wasn't even a dream back then... ca. 1966] But just doing the Tech [same as General written at the time] and code (seems it was a test of send AND receive) in front of the FCC examiners was intimidation enough!)
WA9SVD
12-21-2006, 12:14 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,16:20)][
I remember, I served a detention once for arguing with a public school teacher about the spelling of "environment." He claimed it was "enviroment." I was new in the public school system and had a long honed habit of keeping a paperback copy of Websters. I showed it to him after class. I spent the detention proofreading his resume.
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Hopefully, you made appropriate "corrections?" So his resume would be "enviromentally friendly," of course!
KC0NBW
12-21-2006, 12:18 AM
Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ Dec. 20 2006,17:05)](Can't say I did the Extra before an FC examiner. #[Extra wasn't even a dream back then... ca. 1966] #But just doing the Tech [same as General written at the time] and code (seems it was a test of send AND receive) in front of the FCC examiners was intimidation enough!)
the fcc examiner i faced was about 7'4'' and at least 400 pounds,had a physique like arnold schwarzenegger and wore size 18 boots. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
oh, i forgot something, she had a wouff hong and a rttysnitch on her desk. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
WA9SVD
12-21-2006, 12:23 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,17:18)]Quote[/b] (wa9svd @ Dec. 20 2006,17:05)](Can't say I did the Extra before an FC examiner. [Extra wasn't even a dream back then... ca. 1966] But just doing the Tech [same as General written at the time] and code (seems it was a test of send AND receive) in front of the FCC examiners was intimidation enough!)
the fcc examiner i faced was about 7'4'' and at least 400 pounds,had a physique like arnold schwarzenegger and wore size 18 boots. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
oh, i forgot something, she had a wouff hong and a rttysnitch on her desk. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I was about to say, "she seems to be the same FCC examiner I had back in Chicago..." http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
N8CPA
12-21-2006, 02:47 AM
Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,19:09)]Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:56)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You just failed Latin. #The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. #Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. #Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. #Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. #We go to irony in lieu of brass.
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as i recall,there is a singular term in the saying
don't let the b------s wear you down.
what i posted is the way i learned it in school, blame the teachers. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You are talking about the English understanding of the phrase--not the Latin utterance. True, in English, you
is the understood subject.
But the Latin is a third person, not a second person or vocative statement. In that sense, it is grammatically wrong with a singular verb, since illegitimati is a plural substantive adjective.
Plus it's likely no noble Roman ever uttered the phrase.
The only correct words in the phrase are non and carborundum. Illegitmi is a corruption of the actual word intended--and est is the wrong implementation of the irregular verb to be--esse.
Regardless what can be found on the web, and regardless how fun it is to say.
KC0NBW
12-21-2006, 02:57 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,19:47)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,19:09)]Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:56)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
too bad that is not an fcc motto http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You just failed Latin. #The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. #Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. #Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. #Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. #We go to irony in lieu of brass.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
as i recall,there is a singular term in the saying
don't let the b------s wear you down.
what i posted is the way i learned it in school, blame the teachers. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
You are talking about the English understanding of the phrase--not the Latin utterance. #True, in English, you
is the understood subject.
But the Latin is a third person, not a second person or vocative statement. In that sense, it is grammatically wrong with a singular verb, since illegitimati is a plural substantive adjective.
Plus it's likely no noble Roman ever uttered the phrase.
The only correct words in the phrase are non and carborundum. #Illegitmi is a corruption of the actual word intended--and est is the wrong implementation of the irregular verb to be--esse.
Regardless what can be found on the web, and regardless how fun it is to say.
the point is, it does get the message across. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
W5HTW
12-21-2006, 03:27 AM
Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Dec. 20 2006,15:56)]Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 20 2006,18:25)]illegitimi non carborundum est :laugh:
too bad that is not an fcc motto :laugh: :laugh:
You just failed Latin. The phrase should be
Illegitimati non carborundum sunt. Est is singular and illegitimati is plural. Verbs must match subject in number. The plural of est is sunt.
Sum ego asinus sollers?
And to think we used to argue about Morse. Now argue another "dead" language.
I left out the best part. We go to irony in lieu of brass.
:D
We are USING a dead - or dying- language. English.
Being badly mutilated by internet posters, and replaced by border crossers.
(no they are not like Border Collies.)
Hey, what about us "Extra Heavies" that also used to posess at least a 1st Class Radio/Telephone license, possibly with Radar and other endorsements, that have had their highly esteemed status peeled away from us one layer at a time, til now we are hardly recognized as being any more than the "Extra Lites" and even lower level licence holders who will be occupying the same spectrum space not to mention JOBS that we used to be paid the big bucks to do ! Don't you think we have something legitimate to cry about? huh huh HUH ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
( Not Smiling ! )
K7JEM
12-21-2006, 06:23 AM
Quote[/b] (AG3Y @ Dec. 20 2006,22:13)]Hey, what about us "Extra Heavies" that also used to posess at least a 1st Class Radio/Telephone license, possibly with Radar and other endorsements, that have had their highly esteemed status peeled away from us one layer at a time, til now we are hardly recognized as being any more than the "Extra Lites" and even lower level licence holders who will be occupying the same spectrum space not to mention JOBS that we used to be paid the big bucks to do ! Don't you think we have something legitimate to cry about? huh huh HUH ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
( Not Smiling ! )
No. But I'm sure you'll complain anyway.
Like I tell people, "thats life, and life's a bitch, and then you die".
You aren't any more than the "extra lites", but you can think that if you want to. You passed a harder code test and a harder written, thats all. But the "extra" ticket conveys certain privileges and benefits that all holders have, whether licensed today or 30 years ago. The FCC makes absolutely no distinction in when you got your license.
Same with the first phone. The FCC didn't promise you that it would always be needed for broadcast and two way work, and guess what? It isn't anymore.
So you go on with your life and have a good time. You never know when a plane will drop on your house, or a car will kill you. Life is full of uncertainties and problems, but it beats the alternative, that of becoming one of Greg's clients.
Joe