Let us not forget our brothers who are still under

[kc7jty]

To the ones rejoicing over the demise of Morse testing here in the USA:
There are still many countries world wide that require Morse testing for amateur radio licenses. The struggle continues.
Take time to reflect on our fortune and their continued oppression.

[K0HWY]

Yeah, they really have it rough. My heart bleeds for them all. Let's remember them all this holiday season and pray that their respective governments will make pansies out of them just as ours has of us. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[kc7jty]

hear that Brits, Aussies, and Canucks? Pansies all....

[K0HWY]

PANSIES.... sorry, I meant to capitalize it the first time.

[ab9lz]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Dec. 19 2006,20:24)]hear that Brits, Aussies, and Canucks? Pansies all....
Yep, pansies. Just like the 5 or 6 don't-wanna-coders out there that are celebrating the new pansy order of things down at the fcc.

[wb4old]

The people overseas need help but what of the oppression still in the US.,having to learn anything to become a (ham?) Stop all testing now!

[k7mh]

(This is a self admitted trolling expedition)
Quote[/b] ]There are still many countries world wide that require Morse testing for amateur radio licenses. The struggle continues.

Good grief now we have to be morse code evangelists!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Ham Radio Missionaries?
"Put your hand on the Shure 444 and FEEL the power"!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
***Free Samuel Morse!***
Sri, I guess that's "Free FROM Samuel Morse!"http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
You really do hafta wonder what ol' Sam would think off all this hoopla! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Quote[/b] ]PANSIES.... sorry, I meant to capitalize it the first time.
You also need a much larger font! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ab8ro]

That's what NCI is for. The I stands for international.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 19 2006,21:12)]the 5 or 6 don't-wanna-coders out there
you're living in the past for it is now don't-hafta-coders.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (ab8ro @ Dec. 19 2006,23:18)]That's what NCI is for. The I stands for international.
may they be greeted with much future success world wide.

[W0LC]

Exactly the type of attitude I was referring to...and you want more of this in the future?

Sigh....

[kc7jty]

nah-na-na-nah-nah http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[n0nwo]

Maybe we could talk G.W to send in the troops to free them from the yoke of oppression. It worked before http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Minton

[AC0H]

Quote[/b] ]That's what NCI is for. The I stands for international.

may they be greeted with much future success world wide
A pox on their houses.

[W3MIV]

Bill. Stop agitating and start studying.

[N2RJ]

Code in some countries went away way before the USA. In fact, some countries have already dropped that oppressive written test too.

[w8znx]

Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 20 2006,14:20)]Code in some countries went away way before the USA. #In fact, some countries have already dropped that oppressive written test too.
some countries
you just slip some official
the right amount of cash

you are now a licensed Amateur Radio op

some of these countries
still have a code test

but if you have the cash
you need not take any test

in some of these places
you pass the test

will still need to pay a bribe
or your paper work never gets
to where it should go

mac

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 20 2006,13:33)]Bill. Stop agitating and start studying.
Bill, keep it up. They deserve it.

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Dec. 20 2006,15:02)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 20 2006,13:33)]Bill. Stop agitating and start studying.
Bill, keep it up. They deserve it.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
can you tell I'm smilin now?

[KI4QFY]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Dec. 20 2006,13:01)]Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 19 2006,21:12)]the 5 or 6 don't-wanna-coders out there
you're living in the past for it is now don't-hafta-coders.
CW just joined its brothers and sisters...

Dont hafta SSTV
Dont hafta RTTY
Dont hafta PSK

Its still a legal MODE, just not REQUIRED. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

Have a nice day
Andrew

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 19 2006,21:27)]PANSIES.... sorry, I meant to capitalize it the first time.
I thought the term was poofder!

Bruces (http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/bruces.htm)

[ab9lz]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Dec. 20 2006,13:10)]nah-na-na-nah-nah http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
So... do you do a little pansy dance when you sing that?

[K0HWY]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Dec. 20 2006,17:02)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Dec. 20 2006,13:33)]Bill. Stop agitating and start studying.
Bill, keep it up. They deserve it.
Yes Bill, do keep it up. The OF pro-coders need a poster child for their "We Told You So" campaign. I think we have a winner!

[AG3Y]

Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 20 2006,17:20)]Code in some countries went away way before the USA. #In fact, some countries have already dropped that oppressive written test too.
"HOOOOOOOLA HOOOOLA HOOOLA HOOOOOOLA ! ! ! "



OPPRESSIVE, Yeah, Sure ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[G8ADD]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 19 2006,20:22)]Yeah, they really have it rough. My heart bleeds for them all. Let's remember them all this holiday season and pray that their respective governments will make pansies out of them just as ours has of us. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Pansie - hybrid viola, once known as heartsease, in this country capable of flowering in any month of the year so as tough as old boots and extremely flexible.

Works for me.

Does your concern for horticulture make you a gardener, OM? I should think at this time of the year you would be digging over tired old areas and doing a bit of muck-spreading.

That works, too.

Carry on composting!

73

Brian G8ADD, a no-code advanced!

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (w8znx @ Dec. 20 2006,16:39)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 20 2006,14:20)]Code in some countries went away way before the USA. In fact, some countries have already dropped that oppressive written test too.
some countries
you just slip some official
the right amount of cash

you are now a licensed Amateur Radio op

some of these countries
still have a code test

but if you have the cash
you need not take any test

in some of these places
you pass the test

will still need to pay a bribe
or your paper work never gets
to where it should go

mac
Not only that, some others I can think of:

Written tests, but lots of cheating so you can't fail (i.e. the tests are reviewed and the bad answers fixed before they're submitted to an independent third party by mail).

In one country I was told that you can get a ham license by just joining the national ham radio club

In a few countries there's no exam, but only club stations get licenses.

And it goes on and on.

[K0HWY]

Dear Brian,

Thanks for your inquiry.

My concern for horticulture does not make me a gardener although I am a gardener during the spring/summer months. The digging over the tired old areas, known to us dumb farmers as 'turning under', has just been completed but its not quite time to throw the MMPP to the soil just yet. But enough of that bs. Back to the pansies.

Pansy 2. A person who responds to challenges by whining with the expectation that someone/something will intervene on their behalf in eliminating the obstacle that creates the challenge.

That didn't come from Horticulture 101 but rather being raised to embrace challenges that have already been met by your peers. In my years as a ham, I've certainly took my time about meeting those challenges but I never once whined about having to meet them. The way I looked at it, those who went before me did it. If I'm worth my weight, I should be required to meet the same objectives. Failure to do so = PANSY.

Let's not get too worked up about this though. This is 2006 and being a pansy is nothing of which to be ashamed. Who care what others think of you? It's all about me. As someone else said, all of these OFs will soon be SK anyway. Won't that be a day to be celebrated? A day when you don't have to listen to them yap about the days when being an amateur radio operator was a big deal.

Well, gotta head out and feed the farm animals. (Do cats qualify as farm animals?) CUL. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[G8ADD]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 21 2006,07:32)]Dear Brian,

Thanks for your inquiry.

My concern for horticulture does not make me a gardener although I am a gardener during the spring/summer months. The digging over the tired old areas, known to us dumb farmers as 'turning under', has just been completed but its not quite time to throw the MMPP to the soil just yet. But enough of that bs. Back to the pansies.

Pansy 2. A person who responds to challenges by whining with the expectation that someone/something will intervene on their behalf in eliminating the obstacle that creates the challenge.
An interesting difference: I had to assume the meaning that you have made clear, I haven't heard the expression over here for many years but in my youth it referred to a "teapot", an effeminate person dressed in an unconventional and theatrical style!

I suppose it's influenced by climate but we dig over ("turn over") in the fall and then cover with dead leaves, manure or compost and dig that in during a dry spell in March.

Just for the record, my license was issued in 1964 as a "B" license, full written exam but no code test, full priviledges on UHF and above, later amended to VHF and above. When the code test was terminated it was amended to "Advanced". I had not been interested in the HF bands but when I was given access to HF I decided to give it a try and found it was nearly as much fun as VHF. I also perceived that CW was a lot more useful on HF than VHF, so have been studying it again, can now copy somewhat above 10 wpm and hope to make my first attempt at a CW contact during the Christmas period, if the WW2 vintage key from the bottom of my junkbox can be persuaded to conduct electricity! If I enjoy that experience, I hope to hint either the XYL or the sprogs into buying me something better for my birthday next month!

73

Brian G8ADD

[K0HWY]

Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ Dec. 21 2006,14:43)]I also perceived that CW was a lot more useful on HF than VHF, so have been studying it again, can now copy somewhat above 10 wpm and hope to make my first attempt at a CW contact during the Christmas period, if the WW2 vintage key from the bottom of my junkbox can be persuaded to conduct electricity! If I enjoy that experience, I hope to hint either the XYL or the sprogs into buying me something better for my birthday next month!

73

Brian G8ADD
Very good Brian. Hopefully, I'll have everything here set up around the first of the year so maybe I can work you on CW. My proficiency is slowly coming back (very good at 13 wpm right now and nipping hard at 15). The WWII key sounds like a hoot. Hoping to get a J-38 myself sometime in the next couple of weeks. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N2RJ]

By the way Trinidad and Tobago is now basically auditing all ham licenses. You must bring your proof of qualification (city and guilds RAE, US VEC CSCE general or higher class, RSGB certificate or equivalent qualification) in addition to the forms and the fees (approx US$16.67/year.).

Turns out that in the past some guys were just given ham licenses without passing an exam. No test, no code, no nothing. They were just friends with the telecomm officials and got a license that way.

Some people even get the shock of their lives when they present US technician class CSCE's and get a license restricted for 50MHz and above. One guy even took the authority to court to sue to get a ham license...

[vk6zgo]

I would like to add my support to G8ADD's comments.

As in the UK, a no-code licence in VK normally referred to a person who #passed the full theory & regulations,but #not the morse exam # (AOLCP)--"Z"calls
We also had:
Full Calls(AOCP)
Novice Calls #(NAOCP)--slow morse ,lower level theory+ limited HF access,& until recently no VHF/UHF access.

Latterly, we had Limited Novices(Novice theory, -no code)-not so many of them about, though.
We also had Combination calls #(Fullcall Theory + Novice Morse)--"K" calls.

All this was swept away in 2004 when all calls with full theory +regs gained full HF acess .

All types of Novices gained full Novice Privileges.

We Have now gone on to emulate the"G's"
by introducing #a Foundation Licence,which is a low level beginner's licence,
Renamed Novice to Standard & Full Call toAdvanced.

All of the above to make you aware, that if you meet one of the former no-code VK hams on air, you are not working some dumb quasi- CBer, but in many cases, #amateurs of excess of 25 years standing.
Many of us would probably have eventually got our Morse,but circumstances dictated otherwise.
73
vk6zgo http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[vk6zgo]

Further to my earlier post, I do admit that I have a few misgivings w.r.t your USA "no-coders."
I recently sat at the PC and did all the QRZ sample exams , one after the other,passing them all, even though some of my answers re US regulations were #guesswork.

They all seemed to be at a considerably lower technical level than the old Australian AOCP,or the odd FCC sample exams I saw in various forms years ago..

It does seem that your technical requirements have been "dumbed down",if the QRZ practice exams are a fair example.
I then went to the WIA web page to see if I could find some comparative info re the current VK exams.
I found only Syllabuses( Syllabi?)for the various levels of licence,which #indicated the need for a deeper level of technical understanding.

This is a bit like comparing apples & oranges,as the exams may be dumber than the Syllabus.

There are many people throughout the world with good knowledge of Morse,but with no knowledge or interest in Electronics.
They would have benefited from your previous qualification system.(lower level technical, + morse)
but would they be better hams?

It seems to me that the old type Technical level with no morse would be a better #indicator of ability.
73 vk6zgo

[w5klb]

I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?

Yes, I agree that those waited until the FCC dropped the code requirement tend to be lazy but, that just human nature and I don't see that changing any time soon.

So, since Element 1 will be eliminated, how do some of you older ops going to deal with it? Continue to complain, maybe turn in your licence? Or will you SET THE EXAMPLE, welcome and ELMER these folks? The choice, should you decide to learn "acceptance", should be very obvious.

Last night, I was listening to the lower end of the 80 Meter Band and I heard more CW QSO's than I have in quite sometime. It seemed to me that MORE ops are getting the "bug" for CW.

Personnelly, I could care less whether a person had to take code or not. As long as they have passed the CURRENT FCC requirments, these folks are, in the eyes of the FCC, hams. It should be the same for the rest of us.

All the sniveling in the world won't change anything. Learn "acceptance".

Life on the Amateur Bands will continue, with or without the code requirment.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (vk6zgo @ Dec. 26 2006,07:37)]Further to my earlier post, I do admit that I have a few misgivings w.r.t your USA "no-coders."
I recently sat at the PC and did all the QRZ sample exams , one after the other,passing them all, even though some of my answers re US regulations were guesswork.

They all seemed to be at a considerably lower technical level than the old Australian AOCP,or the odd FCC sample exams I saw in various forms years ago..

It does seem that your technical requirements have been "dumbed down",if the QRZ practice exams are a fair example.
I then went to the WIA web page to see if I could find some comparative info re the current VK exams.
I found only Syllabuses( Syllabi?)for the various levels of licence,which indicated the need for a deeper level of technical understanding.

This is a bit like comparing apples & oranges,as the exams may be dumber than the Syllabus.

There are many people throughout the world with good knowledge of Morse,but with no knowledge or interest in Electronics.
They would have benefited from your previous qualification system.(lower level technical, + morse)
but would they be better hams?

It seems to me that the old type Technical level with no morse would be a better indicator of ability.
73 vk6zgo
The easiness of the US exams was one of the first things I noticed.

For my first ham license I took the city and guilds RAE, which is considerably harder than US extra class.

It's no wonder that I was able to walk into an exam session with nothing and come out with a US extra class license.

And that is the crux of the matter. It isn't really about code. It is about an overall level of difficulty.

The US exams are a joke compared to some other parts of the world. Yet, when proposals to beef up the written test are proposed as part of the morse restructuring and elimination of the requirement, organizations like NCI do their best to shoot them down. The anti-code testing folks fling around that "it's just a hobby!!! Chill out, it's just a hobby!!! We don't want to take a hard exam to get on the radio and talk, it's just a hobby!!!"

I think a lot of good has come from morse requirement going away in some other countries, because they replaced it with practical training like the foundation license. But here in the USA we just dropped it and replaced it with nothing. Now all one needs to do to get a full license is to just go on one of these practice websites like QRZ.com and drill the questions until they are blue in the face. They learn no theory because the questions and answers are the same on the actual test.

And the result of that is now you have hams asking how to make a dipole, or how to use the plate and load controls in an amplifier. Basic theory is lost on many people.

So in light of this, do you really blame us for being upset, angry and frustrated that our Government has sold out our hobby?

[KC0NBW]

Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 26 2006,07:10)]I recently sat at the PC and did all the QRZ sample exams , one after the other,passing them all, even though some of my answers re US regulations
I think a lot of good has come from morse requirement going away in some other countries, because they replaced it with practical training like the foundation license. #But here in the USA we just dropped it and replaced it with nothing. #Now all one needs to do to get a full license is to just go on one of these practice websites like QRZ.com and drill the questions until they are blue in the face. #They learn no theory because the questions and answers are the same on the actual test.
for whatever it's worth, the answers on the practice tests are the same as on the real tests but if you were to compare them side by side, you would find that the answers are not in the same order

for example,while the correct answer may be ''c''on a practice test, it might be''a''on the real test.

that makes ''memorization'' a lot harder. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (ab8ro @ Dec. 20 2006,01:18)]That's what NCI is for. The I stands for international.
And all these years I thought it was No Code for I. Well, I think there should be a liberation of all those Novices. The forgotten class. The one that did pass the code and got butkus for it. Let's give them a band that they can still call the 'Novice Band.' I'd say all of 10 and all of the CW freqs.

NBL = Novice Band Liberation. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Then we can work on NTI* and NFI**.

*No Test Interplanetary
**No Forms (to fill) Intergalactic.

Just plug and play. Hams for the 21st Century.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 26 2006,15:01)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Dec. 26 2006,07:10)]I recently sat at the PC and did all the QRZ sample exams , one after the other,passing them all, even though some of my answers re US regulations
I think a lot of good has come from morse requirement going away in some other countries, because they replaced it with practical training like the foundation license. But here in the USA we just dropped it and replaced it with nothing. Now all one needs to do to get a full license is to just go on one of these practice websites like QRZ.com and drill the questions until they are blue in the face. They learn no theory because the questions and answers are the same on the actual test.
for whatever it's worth, the answers on the practice tests are the same as on the real tests but if you were to compare them side by side, you would find that the answers are not in the same order

for example,while the correct answer may be ''c''on a practice test, it might be''a''on the real test.

that makes ''memorization'' a lot harder. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Maybe for some people, but when I "memorize" tests, I rarely memorize letters.

[ka0gkt]

Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 21 2006,07:32)]Well, gotta head out and feed the farm animals. (Do cats qualify as farm animals?) CUL. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Only if you Milk 'em!

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve

[ab9lz]

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )

[KL1ZB]

Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 25 2006,18:24)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )
I guess if you walk on water taking a bath or swimming would be kinda hard.

[KC0NBW]

Quote[/b] (KL1ZB @ Dec. 26 2006,18:04)]Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 25 2006,18:24)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )
I guess if you walk on water taking a bath or swimming would be kinda hard.
we can walk on water when we want to, otherwise we are like anyone else, taking a bath is no problem

[ab9lz]

Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 26 2006,19:18)]Quote[/b] (KL1ZB @ Dec. 26 2006,18:04)]Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 25 2006,18:24)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )
I guess if you walk on water taking a bath or swimming would be kinda hard.
we can walk on water when we want to, otherwise we are like anyone else, taking a bath is no problem
amen brother, amen.

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (ka0gkt @ Dec. 26 2006,17:22)]Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 21 2006,07:32)]Well, gotta head out and feed the farm animals. (Do cats qualify as farm animals?) CUL. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Only if you Milk 'em!

73 DE KAØGKT/7

--Steve
"I can milk anything with nipples!"
"I have nipples, Greg! Can you milk me?"

from the movie "Meet the Parents"

[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (KC0NBW @ Dec. 26 2006,20:18)]Quote[/b] (KL1ZB @ Dec. 26 2006,18:04)]Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 25 2006,18:24)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )
I guess if you walk on water taking a bath or swimming would be kinda hard.
we can walk on water when we want to, otherwise we are like anyone else, taking a bath is no problem
Having seen (smelled) some fellow amateurs at a hamfest for whom physical hygiene seemed to be an afterthought, I wonder if they had ever touched water and soap at all! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC0NBW]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Dec. 26 2006,22:16)]Having seen (smelled) some fellow amateurs at a hamfest for whom physical hygiene seemed to be an afterthought, I wonder if they had ever touched water and soap at all! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
perhaps they weren't extras ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Dec. 26 2006,17:24)]Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Dec. 26 2006,07:07)]I don't undestand what the big deal is.

Does knowing code make someone:

-Walk on water?
-Capable of bending their eyesight around corners?
-Leap tall buildings in a single bound?
-Better looking and more attractive?
-Have an increase in IQ?
-Have more knowledge of radio communications?
-A better person?
now that you mention it, why yes.... yes it does ; )
I asked the magic ball and it agrees...

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Dec. 27 2006,07:41)]I asked the magic ball and it agrees...
Hey, better get that back to where it belongs. Bush seems lost without it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[AC0H]

Quote[/b] ]or how to use the plate and load controls in an amplifier.
Please tell me you're kidding.

[N2RJ]

Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Dec. 27 2006,08:04)]Quote[/b] ]or how to use the plate and load controls in an amplifier.
Please tell me you're kidding.
Totally not kidding. (http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=5;t=141331)

[W0LC]

Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ Dec. 21 2006,12:43)]Quote[/b] (K0HWY @ Dec. 21 2006,07:32)]Dear Brian,

Thanks for your inquiry.

My concern for horticulture does not make me a gardener although I am a gardener during the spring/summer months. The digging over the tired old areas, known to us dumb farmers as 'turning under', has just been completed but its not quite time to throw the MMPP to the soil just yet. But enough of that bs. Back to the pansies.

Pansy 2. A person who responds to challenges by whining with the expectation that someone/something will intervene on their behalf in eliminating the obstacle that creates the challenge.
An interesting difference: I had to assume the meaning that you have made clear, I haven't heard the expression over here for many years but in my youth it referred to a "teapot", an effeminate person dressed in an unconventional and theatrical style!

I suppose it's influenced by climate but we dig over ("turn over") in the fall and then cover with dead leaves, manure or compost and dig that in during a dry spell in March.

Just for the record, my license was issued in 1964 as a "B" license, full written exam but no code test, full priviledges on UHF and above, later amended to VHF and above. When the code test was terminated it was amended to "Advanced". I had not been interested in the HF bands but when I was given access to HF I decided to give it a try and found it was nearly as much fun as VHF. I also perceived that CW was a lot more useful on HF than VHF, so have been studying it again, can now copy somewhat above 10 wpm and hope to make my first attempt at a CW contact during the Christmas period, if the WW2 vintage key from the bottom of my junkbox can be persuaded to conduct electricity! If I enjoy that experience, I hope to hint either the XYL or the sprogs into buying me something better for my birthday next month!

73

Brian G8ADD
It definitely is, Brian, contrary to the NCI rants.
Higher QSO rate on CW and easier copy. Also, uses much less spectrum, unless of course, one enjoys the 5-6 khz wide SSB splatter. Hi.

CU on the bands!

Happy New Year also!

[vk6zgo]

Re "totally not kidding"

I think we tend to forget that when we started,there were only tube finals,& we were very #radio oriented.
We still had to be taught how-even knowing the theory.

I approached tuning up a Tx final for the first time ,with trepidations---dry mouth, butterflies in the stomach, etc. (Of course it was a big Tx, & I was being paid to tune it,not blow it up ).

In those days, things were a bit formal, & we were allowed to tune up the HF Broadcast & Comms Tx,but only The Shift Leader was allowed to tweak the MF B/C Tx.

In the Topic linked to, I've posted a rough description of how I learnt to tune Tx, but it's hard to convey things without standing alongside the person.
73
vk6zgo