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How about a section on this site where everybody can swear as much as possible? You know...where everyone can VENT !!! Say what they really want to say without having to say "F" this and "F" that. Or... I took a s...t last night and let me tell you, I really stank the joint up! Why not? After all, we talk (or a lot of us do) like that all the time. Call it the verbal porn section...and deny access to kids(who have never,ever heard naughty language)
There's already a "site"--it's called "2-meters." :S
That section already exists.
It is called Hamsexy.com
K8EEI
11-29-2006, 11:05 PM
Try 27.185 CB channel 19 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
K8MHZ
11-29-2006, 11:13 PM
Quote[/b] ]I took a s...t last night and let me tell you, I really stank the joint up! Why not? After all, we talk (or a lot of us do) like that all the time.
Speak for yourself.
CB Ch 20 is the place for #the recalcitrant around here. #No license needed. #
Not something I would like to see here on QRZ.
K9STH
11-30-2006, 12:08 AM
You have to ask Fred, AA7BQ, the owner of QRZ.com about this. However, I don't believe that you would have a snowball's chance. But, it wouldn't hurt to ask!
I know that I would not take on the job of trying to control such a forum.
Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
N7RJD
11-30-2006, 12:27 AM
I have always understood the intent to be maintaining a family friendly site, not family friendly areas of a site.
W0LPQ
11-30-2006, 12:44 AM
Glen not only moderating it ... but how many (for darn sure not I) would actually visit the site..!
Bill, W0LPQ
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Nov. 29 2006,14:53)]How about a section on this site where everybody can swear as much as possible? You know...where everyone can VENT !!! Say what they really want to say without having to say "F" this and "F" that. Or... I took a s...t last night and let me tell you, I really stank the joint up! Why not? After all, we talk (or a lot of us do) like that all the time. Call it the verbal porn section...and deny access to kids(who have never,ever heard naughty language)
Bully for Fred and the mods for keeping the barbarians at bay. I like the fact that I don't have to waste time reading through crude language here on QRZ. The entire rest of the internet is wide open for cussin', dissin', and talkin' shiz. See you later.
W2ILP
11-30-2006, 02:08 AM
AS an Atheist I can't swear to God. I do not like to use sexual or toilet swear words either. I rarely find them necessary to emphasize my feelings.
What never?
Well...Hardly ever.
--W.S. Gilbert--
w2ilp (I Like Politeness)
kf6rdn
11-30-2006, 02:27 AM
If you've ever seen Southpark, they use pretty clever beep censoring where it's obvious what the word was.. if you have heard it. In a way it makes it more funny then if they actually used the words.
kf4vgx
11-30-2006, 03:44 AM
Understand this please .
Amateurs degrade each other as it is #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif .
Todays amateurs indulge /enjoy #ridiculing each other .
Perhaps amateurs choose to #enjoy this hobby different than the expectations of what others perceive to be amateur radio .
Or perhaps they feel superior.
Perhaps thats it "Amateur Egomania" .
Not a good idea #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
AE6IP
11-30-2006, 04:00 AM
They're only words. If they bother you, it is because you have given them too much power.
kf4vgx
11-30-2006, 04:11 AM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Nov. 28 2006,22:00)]They're only words. If they bother you, it is because you have given them too much power.
Marty " Words " can bring a country to war .
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Power incarnated. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
KG6YTZ
11-30-2006, 05:08 AM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Nov. 29 2006,18:27)]If you've ever seen Southpark, they use pretty clever beep censoring where it's obvious what the word was.. if you have heard it. #In a way it makes it more funny then if they actually used the words.
May I suggest a couple of old comedy bits for ya, then? "Obscene Phone Bust" by Hudson & Landry, and "The Dirty Old Man" by Jim Backus.
Not an audible profanity in either of 'em - instead, goofy cartoon sound effects leave everything up to the listener's own imagination. Classic bits, both of 'em. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
VE7NOT
11-30-2006, 08:35 AM
No thanks my kids read this site with me at times.
How about a CW/CB area? Two of the most common threads, spun off like a bad sitcom. If you want to allow flaming, maybe a page asking you to acknowledge that you are going to an Adult page would be good.
Personally, IMHO, things are excellent as they are right now. No small feat. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
I am an admin on a Radio Forum and we tried EXACTLY that, we made it a hidden section and you could only be added by request to view and reply.The understanding was that if you made the request you needed to have "VERY THICK SKIN" because it would not be moderated.And nothing was to be brought into the rest of the forum where everyone can see.
IT WAS A DISASTER, people were offended by what another person posted and DEMANDED we remove the post or ban the person whom posted it !
Arguments carried in to the other regular sections with quotes and screen shots of what was posted to show this guy is such a so and so.
We finally removed the section
If there is a chance to vote for this, I vote NO
Been there done that, it doesnt work.
ka5piu
11-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Hello.
Sex Drugs and Rock and Roll? (Acid rock).
The overall effect on a site is measured not only in how one part of it works but the entire image.
This is an Amateur radio site.
Sure, there is discussion about 11 meters, but the CBers do not flock here.
And, yes, we have the code/no code battles, but phone vs CW battles have been going on for as long as there has been phone.
It is actually better now, as in the 1920's there were people who refused to have a key in the shack, read the early QST.
At least now most can agree on one thing, most, but not all , new hams have not a clue about the technical aspects.
And, it has all been G-rated.
I find that the quality of language found on internet forums in general is so abysmally atrocious, including here on QRZ, we certainly don't need to further degrade it with profanity. #It's tough enough enduring the poor spelling, miserable grammar, and borderline illiteracy of some forum participants. #Ironically, the spelling and grammatical usage of profane words and phrases are about the only things some of these same knuckleheads get right, but we can live without it just the same.
Howie N6KX #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Quote[/b] (K9STH @ Nov. 29 2006,12:08)]You have to ask Fred, AA7BQ, the owner of QRZ.com about this. However, I don't believe that you would have a snowball's chance. But, it wouldn't hurt to ask!
I know that I would not take on the job of trying to control such a forum.
Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators
I agree Glen, this forum makes my head spin and want to vomit green spew every so often. Moderating a forum as suggested would be a nightmare.
K8MHZ
11-30-2006, 03:19 PM
There used to be a BBS here in my town called the 'Free Speech' bulletin board.
Everybody but one person used aliases. #That one person was a 19 year old college student, black belt in karate and his dad was a ham. #There were flare ups, but for the most part it was intellectual discussions intermixed with juvenile flamers. #For the most part the flamers were ignored. #Until one day one of the kids refused to stop harassing a lady poster who just happened to be employed in the computer business. #She found out who the kid was and got into his parents bank and real estate records and posted the names of their banks and the location of their property on the BBS telling the kid if he didn't knock it off she would use her knowledge of computers and seize all his parents assets and send them copies of the kid's posts as the reason to why it happened to them. #(This was the late 80s - early 90s)
The kid stopped posting and much of the others stopped flaming as now they weren't so sure that they could remain anonymous. #I miss the board, but don't think we would get the same results here. #The Free Speech board, being a BBS, was frequented by locals. #Everyone lived within 10 or 15 miles of each other. #That tended to keep things a bit more civil.
The purpose of the board was not to be a place where the most profane ruled the roost. #It was a place where the true essence of free speech was encouraged along with the responsibility that it bore.
KD6NIG
11-30-2006, 03:24 PM
Personally, if you want such an area, start your own forum. Then the stuff you desire stays over there and you can deal with it, and the 'Zed stays like it is now.
Then, with a new forum, you can have everyone consent to such content, then if they complain, you at least have something to point at.
Not that it will do any good, but at least that way you leave this unpolluted http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Personally, if you want strife and that kind of stuff, I'm sure forums out there already exist. They just aren't ham radio themed. But I'm sure you can get your political fill at plenty, and I'm sure there are a few dedicated to venom spewing http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
ab8ma
11-30-2006, 04:26 PM
Time for a POLL?
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kc7jty
11-30-2006, 05:58 PM
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Nov. 29 2006,15:55)]That section already exists.
It is called Hamsexy.com
Not so! Only the moderators get to use off color language there.
Take it from someone who knows.....their a#al orifice is actually much tighter there.
G0GQK
11-30-2006, 10:28 PM
One thing you can always guarentee,( I can spell that word correctly) is that it doesn't matter how low standards are there will always be some people who want to send them lower.
G0GQK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
KC4HGH
11-30-2006, 10:42 PM
Such language, used constantly, shows the diminished mentality, lack of social grace and small vocabulary of the person speaking it....
W0UZR
11-30-2006, 11:35 PM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Nov. 29 2006,16:53)]How about a section on this site where everybody can swear as much as possible? You know...where everyone can VENT !!! Say what they really want to say without having to say "F" this and "F" that. Or... I took a s...t last night and let me tell you, I really stank the joint up! Why not? After all, we talk (or a lot of us do) like that all the time. #Call it the verbal porn section...and deny access to kids(who have never,ever heard naughty language)
HuH !!?
You want what?
A forum here that you can swear all you want?
you aren'T MY taste of the type of
person I want around me.....
AAh, were your parents like that too? A lot of swearing?
ai4ep
12-01-2006, 12:35 AM
stupid idea.
who ever had this brilliant idea should have the guts to start their own website, and make use of their own idea...instead of attempting in a foolish fashion to trick some one else to go along with their stupid idea.
In simple terms, if you think it is such a great idea, start your own web site and allow that type of atmosphere to flourish at that location....or does that require YOU to actually do too much ?
...or am I being TOO polite ?
KI4PEQ
12-01-2006, 04:29 AM
Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 30 2006,11:58)]Quote[/b] (al2n @ Nov. 29 2006,15:55)]That section already exists.
It is called Hamsexy.com
Not so! Only the moderators get to use off color language there.
Take it from someone who knows.....their a#al orifice is actually much tighter there.
There are some here who would say the Hamsexy.com moderators ARE anal orifices, although they might use more common vernacular.
KI4PEQ
12-01-2006, 04:31 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Nov. 30 2006,18:35)]In simple terms, if you think it is such a great idea, start your own web site and allow that type of atmosphere to flourish at that location....or does that require YOU to actually do too much ?
...or am I being TOO polite ?
You're being too polite. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
AE6IP
12-01-2006, 04:44 AM
Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Nov. 30 2006,14:42)]Such language, used constantly, shows the diminished mentality, lack of social grace and small vocabulary of the person speaking it....
This statement can only be uttered by someone who has never had the chance to hear truely creative profanity.
Language is an art, and cliched insults against those who use profanity betray as much lack of skill at it as constantly repeating the same profanity.
But then, I'm Irish, and we're the people who talked the rest of the world into using one of our curses as a common name for a bar.
Now that was an artful application of profanity.
To the original poster:
Why don't you just go out behind the barn, or out in the woods, and scream to your heart's content! ? ! ?
Just don't let any of us hear you ! ! !
Didn't your Mother ever wash your mouth out with soap? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif She SHOULD HAVE ! !
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ka5piu
12-01-2006, 06:54 AM
Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 30 2006,10:58)]Quote[/b] (al2n @ Nov. 29 2006,15:55)]That section already exists.
It is called Hamsexy.com
Not so! Only the moderators get to use off color language there.
Take it from someone who knows.....their a#al orifice is actually much tighter there.
Hello.
At Hamsexy, Seth and the gang are a clique, you are in or out, no middle ground.
If you like Motorola radios, Guns, Snakes and who knows what
else, that is the place.
QRZ is more HFcentric.
That means code vs no-code and some real Neo Con attitude.
Can you say Limbaugh and Swaggart boys and girls?
But it is all quite civil here at QRZ.
W0UZR
12-01-2006, 10:20 AM
Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ Dec. 01 2006,00:54)]But it is all quite civil here at QRZ.
Hello.
And Let's KEEP IT THAT WAY !
kc7jty
12-01-2006, 06:37 PM
Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ Nov. 30 2006,23:54)]If you like Motorola radios, Guns, Snakes and who knows what
else, that is the place.
you forgot bone heads
KC4HGH
12-01-2006, 06:58 PM
Quote[/b] (AE6IP @ Nov. 30 2006,21:44)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Nov. 30 2006,14:42)]Such language, used constantly, shows the diminished mentality, lack of social grace and small vocabulary of the person speaking it....
This statement can only be uttered by someone who has never had the chance to hear truely creative profanity.
Language is an art, and cliched insults against those who use profanity betray as much lack of skill at it as constantly repeating the same profanity.
But then, I'm Irish, and we're the people who talked the rest of the world into using one of our curses as a common name for a bar.
Now that was an artful application of profanity.
Sir, I AM Irish (as well as Czech and American Indian) and I live in the South where many people curse with every other word, which makes me wonder if they got past the 5th grade or if their mind and vocabulary is indeed, truly small.
The best dressing-down I ever saw was a supervisor that went face-to-face with an individual I described above; the supervisor spoke in a normal tone, never uttered a curse or profane word and within five minutes or so, the individual was dismissed and left to go back to his work area, unable to yell & curse like he was accustomed to. This individual cannot speak without saying the "f" word, "SOB", "G-D" or "m'f'ing/'er" to describe everything he talks about...and that's the extent of his vocabulary. He talks about his kids, wife, car, dogs, associates- everything- in that manner. Needless to say, he tried to watch how he talked around the female employees afterward, but you could tell it was ingrained in him.
Creative? Less than, I'd say- and there are many others like him.
And someone thinks we need this tripe here? I think not. There are better ways to express oneself without scooping into the sewer....
Drink a pint for me, if you can...my Indian blood won't allow me!
K6BBC
12-03-2006, 06:28 AM
POOP!
If the mods are really on step, they will lock this thread fast, because BBC just stank it up and anything could happen.
BTW, the Britney Spears thread has disappeared. All of that philosophical insight that we all poured into it and *poof!*, all gone. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
w5klb
12-03-2006, 03:30 PM
Quote[/b] ]BTW, the Britney Spears thread has disappeared.
Be grateful for it's disappearance.
It's bad enough that I speak and write in "Okie". #Swearing in "Okie" compounds the problem. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Nov. 29 2006,11:58)]Quote[/b] (al2n @ Nov. 29 2006,15:55)]That section already exists.
It is called Hamsexy.com
Not so! Only the moderators get to use off color language there.
Take it from someone who knows.....their a#al orifice is actually much tighter there.
I thought your problem was religion based hate speech, not swearing? Unless of course you started some other stuff there that I missed....... so fill us all in, what did you do?
K8MHZ
12-04-2006, 08:22 PM
Believe it or not Hamsexy does have it's standards. #They locked a thread down that I was participating in where some bone head was trying to promote the discussion of his sex life on a repeater, and on ham radio in general. #I disagreed in my usual polite, logical and concise demeanor and as a result became the innocent victim of a filthy verbal barrage. #I couldn't find the thread in the archives and it may indeed be gone.
Believe it or not there are people with licenses that are too low for even Hamsexy:laugh:
Fortunately they are very few and far between, unless of course they live near each other.....
Edit: #Another lockdown! #That's two now. #I admire the tight moderation and very strict (but not necessarily high) standards of the site.
Getting the last word both times was nice, too!
K8ERV
12-04-2006, 08:49 PM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ Nov. 30 2006,15:28)]guarentee,( I can spell that word correctly)
My dictionary says you can't, but then, what does it know?
Tom K8ERV Montrose Colo
VA3GRV
12-05-2006, 02:01 AM
Quote[/b] (WF7A @ Nov. 29 2006,15:54)]There's already a "site"--it's called "2-meters." :S
LOLOLOLOLOL http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Too Funny!
Aw c'mon it's not that bad up here lol
The place you seek, already exists! It's called 75 meter Phone.
There, the lowest scum of the Amateur radio fraternity gather.
Now, I have had some good QSO's on 80 meter phone, but besides the good guys there, that and 14.275 have to be the worst of the worst that Amateur radio have to offer.
The FCC got it wrong. They should have taken away the Phone segment of the 75 meter band and given the whole thing to the CW ops. Those guys know how to be respectful !!! The Phone ops, in general, are very rude and Not representive of the Amateur community !
Gordon
K8MHZ
12-11-2006, 01:06 AM
Quote[/b] ]Now, I have had some good QSO's on 80 meter phone, but besides the good guys there, that and 14.275 have to be the worst of the worst that Amateur radio have to offer.
Yeah, '275 is a real treat. #Living proof that Industry Canada had all their antennas stolen.
wa9cwx
12-11-2006, 03:53 AM
Real freedom to use the whole range of language is a wonderful right we can enjoy in this country.
And, when used with skill, can be as informative, funny, captivating, and enjoyable as any form of communication known.
Wordsmiths are fascinating.
But, with the nature of QRZ being Ham Radio related, with the added freedom of the 'Ragchew forum', I could not imagine something like a foul language meeting place serving any real function.
A nightclub act, a strong social comment in an academic setting, a political rally, a verbal encounter....ALL of these COULD be appropriate places for some off color comments, accented speach, etc.
But here, where it would be DESIRABLE for younger people, or NEWER people to ham radio, and the general public, who might have a passing interest in radio and MIGHT want to lurk for awhile....THAT kind of "communication" would be in terrible taste, period.
SHEEESH
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Let's protect the "edges" of Ham radio. Once it begins to crumble, it will fall.
Ham radio has always been famous as friendly and clean, let's keep it that way.
I would hate to see us move any closer to CB radio.
KD6NIG
12-11-2006, 05:27 PM
Besides, you can go to another 'ham radio website' that starts with an "E" to get your strife http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
They don't cuss, per se, but some people definetely come close http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
n2ize
12-11-2006, 05:36 PM
Quote[/b] (W6GQ @ Nov. 30 2006,07:00)]I am an admin on a Radio Forum and we tried EXACTLY that, we made it a hidden section and you could only be added by request to view and reply.The understanding was that if you made the request you needed to have "VERY THICK SKIN" because it would not be moderated.And nothing was to be brought into the rest of the forum where everyone can see.
IT WAS A DISASTER, people were offended by what another person posted and DEMANDED we remove the post or ban the person whom posted it !
Arguments carried in to the other regular sections with quotes and screen shots of what was posted to show this guy is such a so and so.
We finally removed the section
If there is a chance to vote for this, I vote NO
Been there done that, it doesnt work.
You find that people have a lot to say when they are safe inside their homes, in front of a computer screen, behind locked doors, protected by alarms, arms, and the local police and when the person they are bashing is several hundred or thousand miles away. But many of those same people have oh so little to say when you are standing face to face in front of them and looking them right in the eye.
K7JBQ
12-12-2006, 02:25 AM
Quote[/b] (k8mhz @ Dec. 10 2006,18:06)]Yeah, '275 is a real treat. #Living proof that Industry Canada had all their antennas stolen.
Industry Canada had antennas?
Who knew?
73,
Bill