Ever wondered?

[g4tut]

Ever wondered?

Have you ever wondered what you sound like on air? #Many radio amateurs wouldn't have a clue what they sound like over the airwaves.

Have you needed to set the mic gain and not been able to find someone to talk with on air?

There is a great talk-back/check function that is available on most IRLP nodes.

If you type in a DTMF 9990 and then say a sentence and release the PTT button, the IRLP node will, after a short delay, playback your sentence over the air.

This allows you to check quality, levels, etc.

To stop this mode just type the normal DTMF 73 and this will cancel the talk-back mode.


Ben, VK7HAH



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[kc0wxf]

For those of you within range of an Echolink repeater or simplex link node, you can do the same by pressing the DTMF sequence 9999.

After listening to a short message, you can key the mic and whatever you say will be repeated back to you.

When you are done, press the DTMF # to disconnect.

These kinds of checks are also great to help you determine if you are in close enough range to the IRLP/Echolink system to maintain a quality connection with the remote party.

Regards,

Scott
kc0wxf@gmail.com

[n3jbh]

Sounds to me as if this function is for the fm mode only.
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[G0GQK]

True. It is only for users of FM. Users of HF have no need for such baubles because they all have the voices of angels.

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[KI4PEQ]

Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ Nov. 26 2006,16:23)]True. It is only for users of FM. Users of HF have no need for such baubles because they all have the voices of angels.

G0GQK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I don't know about that! Some of the voices I've heard on HF sould like Satan himself! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

To hear yourself as others hear you, you can also use the ECHOTEST node.

[KC2PFV]

Thanks, never knew about that before. Just tried it out on a local FM IRLP node. Never realized I sound so different on the air!

-KC2PFV

[k0ivk]

There is a way you can hear your HF SSB or CW signal from across the country to hear how your audio or keying sounds. #There are several remote HF websites that have receivers you can listen to your own signal. #I have done it using the W4MQ remote( www.w4mq.com ), which is 1000+ miles from my QTH. #Tune the receiver to a frequency and your rig to the same freq and if the propagation is favorable you will be able to hear yourself over the internet.(with a few second delay) .
73, Joe k0ivk

[w7auw]

Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons. Are you a IRLP owner ? Or do you just like giving out information to the jammers? How would you like it if you were in the middle of a qso and some jerk sent the disconnect tones and dropped your call? It happens and we don't like to make it easy for them by handing them the ammo to screw around on the air. Just a thought, you probably don't like me now but whatever.......

[kd5tlc]

Sure glad I don't live in an area of the country that's that uptight about having to pay to use a repeater, or IRLP node... I know the west coast is like that... sorry it has to be that way. I was born and raised CA, #had to work out there last month for a week... forgot that people just don't trust each other out that way... too bad. Yeah, #go ahead and flame me... I expect it.
Have a Great Day

[KA0TP]

Quote[/b] (ke7auw @ Nov. 26 2006,17:40)]Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, #and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons. #
Must be one of these uptight old men who make hundreds of posts on QRZ. Usually negative.

Portland Area, the IRLP nodes, and the repeaters are open.

It is my understanding that if you use it on a regular basis, it is courtesy and enlightened self interest to join the repeater group to support the Repeater and IRLP links.

How come you old farts with your constant complaining on QRZ aren't getting more Proactive? #Elmer a new Ham, Be a VE, stop being so negative. Sheesh!

[N1BHH]

Those operating on HF who want to know how they sound should try to back off on the microphone gain, because that's the main cause of lousy audio. There are no angels out there. Not all amateurs even know how to tune into an SSB signal properly. Take the time to have a set of headphones on, most rigs today have a monitor circuit, so have it on when you want to hear what you sound like. Make adjustments appropriately. You don't need to blast away on the mic gain. Too much causes splatter as well. A good solid ground helps as well, this is good practice anytime. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[w7auw]

I'm not old, and in the last 6 months I have brought 5 new hams to amateur radio. Two of them could not read and write well so we read the question pool to them over and over and explained what each question was refering to and both of them pass their tests. One guy is blind and I am reading to his too so he can pass. What have you done this week? What's negative about that?

[W6YDK]

An easy to hear what you sound like on hf sideband is to find a neighbor who is a ham, set up a sked and talk to him. #You talk to him very slowly, then run over to his house and listen. #This only works on the lower bands. #75 is good, but if he lives more than a few houses away you may have to use 160.

[K2WH]

No, I never wondered how I sound on the air since I was self trained in the proper use of a radio, through reading #the instruction book, did a little research and either looked at my speech envelope on a scope or monitored the audio in another receiver. Therfore, through good engineering practice, I know my signal (audio) is above reproach.

However, since this posting seems to be directed at FM and repeater users, there are very few rigs that will allow the user to screw up his audio so why bother. #When is the last time you saw a mobile 2 meter FM rig with a mic gain control? #And, hearing yourself come back is not a good indicator of how you sound on the air. #This is because the audio circuits in the transmitter at the repeater site "Color" the audio so actually, it is a reconstructed version of your original audio, its how you sound after the echolink, phone lines, internet and transmitter audio circuits add their distortion. #

In addition, this type of transmission may be illegal since it seems to fall under one way transmission prohibitions. #Just my take on it, I could be wrong.

K2WH

[K9FV]

Quote[/b] (k5co @ Nov. 27 2006,09:36)]Great, KE7AUW has brought in new hams that are functionally illiterate and had to have the test "read to them". Now there is the kind of quality the ARRL has been lobbying for! Anything to sell more radios for their advertisers.

What's wrong with this picture? (PS: KE7AUW, please don't "bring in " anymore of your illiterate friends; CB is yours for the taking.)
Agreed, KE7AUW seemed a bit caustic in his first post, BUT his comment about reading to a guy to help him pass his test, remember, the guy was blind and perhaps they did not have the test material in brail?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

here is 5 "atta boys" to KE7AUW for elmering the blind ham - and the other hams he has brought into the hobby.

Now, minus 1 "atta boy" to KE7AUW because he didn't think before flaming the first post. In the early days of repeaters (and I feel even now) it was considered good practice to support at least one repeater with membership. That membership allowed you to be welcome at any other repeater (no closed repeaters back then - that we knew of at least). IF everyone supported at least one repeater, would there be a problem?

Ken

[n0jaa]

Quote[/b] (k5co @ Nov. 27 2006,11:36)]Great, KE7AUW has brought in new hams that are functionally illiterate and had to have the test "read to them". Now there is the kind of quality the ARRL has been lobbying for! Anything to sell more radios for their advertisers.

What's wrong with this picture? (PS: KE7AUW, please don't "bring in " anymore of your illiterate friends; CB is yours for the taking.)
Oh, so blind amateur radio wannabees need not apply, eh? #

Are you as snobbish as you sound, or do you merely have something against blind people?? #I helped a blind person get his ticket many years ago, so don't go knocking people just because they don't live up to your over-inflated ego!

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[KI4ITV]

Quote[/b] (ke7auw @ Nov. 26 2006,13:40)]Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons. Are you a IRLP owner ? Or do you just like giving out information to the jammers? How would you like it if you were in the middle of a qso and some jerk sent the disconnect tones and dropped your call? It happens and we don't like to make it easy for them by handing them the ammo to screw around on the air. Just a thought, you probably don't like me now but whatever.......
We are not quite that uptight on the east coast. Our IRLP repeaters are open for any licensed amatuer. If you don't know the tones, just ask on the air, or one of us will pull the node up for you.
Anyone who wants to start trouble could just do a little research and usually find out what they need to know anyway. I find it hard to imagine that things are so bad, that we have to go into "top secret" mode.
If these were the actual tones you are using, then you guys might want to try being a little more original in your choices.

[ky5u]

Quote[/b] (n0jaa @ Nov. 27 2006,12:55)]Quote[/b] (k5co @ Nov. 27 2006,11:36)]Great, KE7AUW has brought in new hams that are functionally illiterate and had to have the test "read to them". Now there is the kind of quality the ARRL has been lobbying for! Anything to sell more radios for their advertisers.

What's wrong with this picture? (PS: KE7AUW, please don't "bring in " anymore of your illiterate friends; CB is yours for the taking.)
Oh, so blind amateur radio wannabees need not apply, eh?

Are you as snobbish as you sound, or do you merely have something against blind people?? I helped a blind person get his ticket many years ago, so don't go knocking people just because they don't live up to your over-inflated ego!

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JAA,

I say this will all respect, but this reminds me of an incident years ago in New Orleans where a lady was jogging and was being dragged off at gunpoint by 5 men. An off duty cop saw it and managed to empty 7 shots from his 9mm auto into the bad guys but in the process a ricochet hit a stray dog. The lady was not injured.

There was a letter in the local paper two days later with a guy OUTRAGED than no cruelty to animals charges were filed against the Samaratin. He totally ignored the lady being saved and focused on the dog.

In your reply, you focused in on the blind guy and missed the point I fear.

[k7ov]

Quote[/b] (N1BHH @ Nov. 26 2006,22:06)]Take the time to have a set of headphones on, most rigs today have a monitor circuit, so have it on when you want to hear what you sound like. Make adjustments appropriately. You don't need to blast away on the mic gain. Too much causes splatter as well. A good solid ground helps as well, this is good practice anytime. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
I know you mean well, but the onboard "Monitor" button on most rigs only samples the audio chain and thus you do not get a real idea of how you actually sound on the air.

I suggest that you start with an initial setting suggested in the owners manual and stay within the suggested limits of the ALC meter included in most new rigs. Then get on the air and ask someone you trust for their opinion.

But, if you have the extra money to spend, you can purchase a monitor scope with will tell you if you are "clean" or "dirty" and then go from there. All this being said, you will sometimes get nasty reports from someone whoes receiver you are over stressing. You most likely not be "splattering" as you will be accused of, if you follow the above advise, but they will just not know the difference, so they will accuse you. My standard policy is to monitor my signals on HF with a scope and if I am told that I am plattering, I thank them for letting me know, and then I ignore them.

The bands can be crouded from time to time, and if someone is just too loud or close for me to operate, I usually just sign off and give them a chance to finish their QSO.

I have heard too many fights develope on HF between operators who are really not "splattering" but are just too strong for the receiver in question. You just can't get away from a lack of knowledge these days.

By the way, most modern radios have such quick acting and good AVC circuits that you almost have to try to over modulate to actually flat top or splatter, especially if you use the mic settings suggested in the manual. You can, but it is not likely. Most problems are caused by recievers not able to handle front end overload. Over use of audio compression and wide band audio techniques are another way to be too wide.

73,

Mike - K7OV

[W5ROY]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif Maybe some of these literate replies should use spell check. Don't call the kettle black untill you look in the mirror

[w7auw]

I truly wish I had not posted anything at all. Good luck to all of you in all your goings on. ._._.

[n8ary]

"Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons."

9999 is a node, which is usually published.
# is also usually published as the disconnect tone.
I use 73 for mine. You can change it to anything you want.
I don't think any harm was done here.

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (ke7auw @ Nov. 27 2006,17:28)]I truly wish I had not posted anything at all. #Good luck to all of you in all your goings on. # #._._.
I think we agree on that point. If you want to post something on this forum, you must realize, many people will parse and analyze every word looking for something to either criticize (usually) or support your point of view.

In your first posting, you came out kind of heavy sounding with anger in your typing. I suggest a softer tone or approach so you don't upset the easily offended types. Knowing how to walk the middle ground on this site takes experience. Perhaps you need some.

K2WH

[KC2LNB]

Quote[/b] (KA0TP @ Nov. 26 2006,21:42)]Quote[/b] (ke7auw @ Nov. 26 2006,17:40)]Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, #and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons. #
Must be one of these uptight old men who make hundreds of posts on QRZ. Usually negative.

Portland Area, the IRLP nodes, and the repeaters are open.

It is my understanding that if you use it on a regular basis, it is courtesy and enlightened self interest to join the repeater group to support the Repeater and IRLP links.

How come you old farts with your constant complaining on QRZ aren't getting more Proactive? #Elmer a new Ham, Be a VE, stop being so negative. Sheesh!
Amen I Agree being new to the hobby one would think Iwas starting trouble evrytime I keyed up on 2m .gets old real fast don't explain to you the right way no help just that your a lid or some other sort not going into that than it would be CB trash ..................KC2LNB

[KI4EEE]

I already know what I sound like on the air. Ive #already been told, and the feedback was not pretty. My voice is a cross between yelling into a cave, and yelling into a fan. Thats on my good days. On my bad days I make dogs howl, and women gnash their teeth. Thank the lord my wife loves me. And for earplugs.:p

P.S.
I have often wondered why my Elmers havent used a wouff-hung on me yet. Lord knows I have earned it.

I am a one man Elmer temper control testing device. If you dont kill me after a week of stupid question barrages that I fire your way, then you most assuredly are ready for an IRS audit.

[k4bof]

If you want to hear how you sound "On Air" in the HF USB mode, go to 3933, 3954, or 3938, wait for a break and then just ask. Most operators there, are pretty friendly and will provide an honest audio report. Several will even record your signal and play it back for your listening pleasure.
73 Bruce K4BOF

[N7YA]

Quote[/b] (KI4EEE @ Nov. 28 2006,08:52)]I already know what I sound like on the air. Ive #already been told, and the feedback was not pretty. My voice is a cross between yelling into a cave, and yelling into a fan. Thats on my good days. On my bad days I make dogs howl, and women gnash their teeth. Thank the lord my wife loves me. And for earplugs.:p

P.S.
I have often wondered why my Elmers havent used a wouff-hung on me yet. Lord knows I have earned it.

I am a one man Elmer temper control testing device. If you dont kill me after a week of stupid question barrages that I fire your way, then you most assuredly are ready for an IRS audit.
Wow! I have fit that description a few times on day 2 of a major contest, but you really painted a picture there.

Hey, at least you are distinctive! :-)


73...Adam, N7YA

[n7sij]

I can't believe i just wasted 10 minutes reading this crapola !
sounds like a bunch of little girls fighting over who's next at hopscotch....sad:0

[KI4EEE]

Roger that... Next month I'm going to try for 1 WPM or maybe I'll take it easy on myself and go for 1/2 WPM, a short word like Cat...

I dont think I will ever use the word Antidisestablishmentarisim(sp)
Much less send it. well give me an hour and I might be able to send it. But use it in a sentence? Ha No...:p

Code is for smart people...
Today the Captain said I am not being paid to think...
So I get paid to be stupid... Whoo - HOOO...:p

Why do we park in the driveway and drive on the parkway?

And where does my tax money go?

And finally for the Elmers why is morse so hard to learn?

If I dont use it a lot I tend to forget it rather quickly.

And how come the XYL is always right and Im not?

73 KI4EEE
Phil

[w7ybv]

Quote[/b] (KA0TP @ Nov. 26 2006,21:42)]Quote[/b] (ke7auw @ Nov. 26 2006,17:40)]Usually repeater groups that have IRLP require you to be a member of that repeater, and other than the node numbers themselves which are posted on a website the control tones you spoke of are not talked about on the air for obvious reasons.
Must be one of these uptight old men who make hundreds of posts on QRZ. Usually negative.

Portland Area, the IRLP nodes, and the repeaters are open.

It is my understanding that if you use it on a regular basis, it is courtesy and enlightened self interest to join the repeater group to support the Repeater and IRLP links.

How come you old farts with your constant complaining on QRZ aren't getting more Proactive? Elmer a new Ham, Be a VE, stop being so negative. Sheesh!
You someday will be an old fart also. So please don't knock us. Have a great day.

[K2WH]

IRLP, EchoLink are abominations in the ham world and serve no useful purpose that voice or other "Over the Air" modes can't handle. Seems to me prior to the internet and all the linking stuff, emergency traffic handling did just fine.

K2WH

[k5co]

Apparently they delete non PC thoughts at this web site. But consider, no code hams that cannot read well enough to understand the test questions soon to be on HF. The ARRL has undermined ham radio so as to sell more rigs for their advertisers. And you'll have a bunch of no-code tech's that cannot comprehend the rules on HF (because they cannot read). This was supposed to be a technical hobby; it seems clear that not everybody should get a license as easily as they once did for CB.

And as for the guy remarking about "blind hams" : learn to read.

[kb3mng]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 27 2006,09:13)]However, since this posting seems to be directed at FM and repeater users, there are very few rigs that will allow the user to screw up his audio so why bother.
Bad propagation can cause noisy audio on FM. For example, if you are mobile, it can mean there are obstructions between you and the receiver. You don't necessarily know when there is a hill between you and the repeater site.

If you have a handheld and experience multipath propagation, just standing a few feet to one side or another can make a difference in signal quality.

If your DTMF commands can cause the repeater to respond, you know your signal is getting there well enough to pick the two tones out of the noise. You don't necessarily know if your signal is so noisy it is just annoying to listen to, or even maybe impossible to understand.

If you are administering an IRLP node, you could use a facility like this for testing your system.

You can always ask somebody how you sound, but when nobody answers, is it because there is nobody listening or is is that nobody understands what you are saying? I wouldn't expect that listening to echos from the repeater is likely to become a major activity, but I can see how it could be useful from time to time.

Like all things in amateur radio, you use the capabilities you're interested in and don't use the rest.

[KI4EEE]

Hey I screw anything up... 2meter or anything..
Me and Murphy are brothers.:p

>>>Coming to your HamShack in June... ME...

Im going to push all of the buttons and turn all of the knobs in a willy nilly fashion... then leave... LOL

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (kb3mng @ Nov. 28 2006,19:12)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 27 2006,09:13)]However, since this posting seems to be directed at FM and repeater users, there are very few rigs that will allow the user to screw up his audio so why bother.
Bad propagation can cause noisy audio on FM. #For example, if you are mobile, it can mean there are obstructions between you and the receiver. #You don't necessarily know when there is a hill between you and the repeater site.

If you have a handheld and experience multipath propagation, just standing a few feet to one side or another can make a difference in signal quality.

If your DTMF commands can cause the repeater to respond, you know your signal is getting there well enough to pick the two tones out of the noise. #You don't necessarily know if your signal is so noisy it is just annoying to listen to, or even maybe impossible to understand.

If you are administering an IRLP node, you could use a facility like this for testing your system.

You can always ask somebody how you sound, but when nobody answers, is it because there is nobody listening or is is that nobody understands what you are saying? #I wouldn't expect that listening to echos from the repeater is likely to become a major activity, but I can see how it could be useful from time to time.

Like all things in amateur radio, you use the capabilities you're interested in and don't use the rest.
Sorry but there is no such thing as "Bad Propagation". Propagation is propagation and any propagation is a good thing.

As to having "Noisy Audio", no you have a weak signal which is noisy into the repeater because your signal is not strong enough for full quieting of the receiver at the repeater site. The noise is generated by the repeater receiver. However, I know what you meant.

On the other hand, if you are able to bring up a reapeater that utilizes PL (as most have), then your signal is sufficiently strong enough into the repeater and would most assuredly negate any so-called multi-path problems. Just bring it up without speaking means you are making it well enough for the PL tone to be recognized. Multi-path reflection, is very, very seldom a problem when operating through a repeater. I have never experienced it and I live in a mountainous region of the state.

K2WH

[W3DL]

Quote[/b] ]In addition, this type of transmission may be illegal since it seems to fall under one way transmission prohibitions. #Just my take on it, I could be wrong.

K2WH

Part 97.111 (b)1 allows one way transmissions for station adjustment.

73, DL

[ka5piu]

Hello.

# for disconnect goes back to the autopatch days, and prior.
9999 and 9990 are from the AutoVoN era.
In fact, almost all of the commands come from AutoVoN or ArpaNET.
The IRLP command structure itself is published and the system was never built with security in mind.
But, somebody with a ham rig could just as easily get on it as
somebody on the back side.
But, encryption in amateur radio, except for control stations, and then only for signalling, is prohibited.

[KD0QV]

MY GOOD HAM FRIEND AL MACK--WD6DNE, (NOW A SILENT KEY), ONCE VIDEO-TAPED OUR RADIO SKED ON 10-M SSB. WE HAD REGULAR SKEDS TOGETHER FOR MANY YEARS. HE WENT TO A LOT OF TROUBLE SETTING UP HIS CAMERA IN FRONT OF HIS RADIO SHACK. WHEN HE SENT ME THE TAPE, I WATCHED AND LISTENED TO MY VOICE ON HIS RADIO, AND IT SURE SUPRISED MY EARS! JUST LIKE LISTENING TO YOURSELF ON A TAPE RECORDER, YOU THINK YOU DON'T SOUND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT YOU DO! I STILL TREASURE THAT TAPE OF US BOTH YAKING AWAY AND ME ON HIS RADIO.
MAYBE SOME OF YOU CAN ARRANGE YOUR HAM FRIENDS TO TAPE YOU AS YOU HAVE A RADIO SKED TOGETHER?
BESIDES THAT, YOU'LL HAVE YOU & YOUR HAM FRIEND RECORDED FOR LISTENING & REMEMBERING MANY YEARS FROM NOW, JUST LIKE I DO!
THANKS AL--WD6DNE, WHAT A FRIEND YOU WERE.
CUL DE, KD0QV--JIM http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[AB8RU]

Quote[/b] (KI4PEQ @ Nov. 26 2006,20:00)]Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ Nov. 26 2006,16:23)]True. It is only for users of FM. Users of HF have no need for such baubles because they all have the voices of angels.

G0GQK http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
I don't know about that! Some of the voices I've heard on HF sould like Satan himself! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

To hear yourself as others hear you, you can also use the ECHOTEST node.
you are definitely the first to say something like that ! but the best was Donald Duck with Laringitis !!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

BTW I don't get into thes long drawn out useless arguments over religion.

Webmaster for a Church website.

bumper snicker on a car ..

Lord please save me from the religious people !

[k5co]

QUOTE HERE: "IRLP, EchoLink are abominations in the ham world and serve no useful purpose.."

Echolink is more likely just an interesting aberration. But if it goes over a telephone wire, then it's a telephone call and I sure hope that we don't find a lot of internet users on the bands one day. Telephone calls are not ham radio.

[N7YA]

Quote[/b] (k5co @ Nov. 30 2006,08:39)]But if it goes over a telephone wire, then it's a telephone call and I sure hope that we don't find a lot of internet users on the bands one day. Telephone calls are not ham radio.
We wont....they're all here on QRZ instead of the radio.

Really, i dont care how people talk to eachother...if it makes you happy, use it. I prefer HF but others dont. doesnt bother me one bit.

We humans will always continue to try to push eachother down, its just our hidden dark nature. QRZ is just a really effective crowbar for bringing out the ugly...its so much easier than just being happy talking to our ham bretheren.

But what do i know, im just the 220 lb ham in the room.


73...Adam, N7YA

[ki6lo]

Now let's see ... if I link to the internet and log into the remote radio and transmit to myself back at home and then reply back to myself from home to the remote radio site, can I count that as a QSO and get credit for it as a confirmed QSL? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Where do I send the QSLcard?

Seriously I can see some instances where using a remote radio system is nice (like when the soldiers are overseas and can link back into the USA for skeds, etc.) but I personally would not think it should (may not already) be allowed for any points towards DXCC and the like as you aren't really operating from where you are physically located. Just a personal observation.

BTW when does one get classified as an 'old fart'? I'll be 49 in a few months and been a ham for almost 32 years. Probably still have a few years to go, but hey I can get an AARP card in less than 2 years. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

73 and happy holidays

Gene KI6LO

[kc6o]

Quote[/b] (KI4EEE @ Nov. 28 2006,08:52)]I already know what I sound like on the air. Ive #already been told, and the feedback was not pretty. My voice is a cross between yelling into a cave, and yelling into a fan. Thats on my good days. On my bad days I make dogs howl, and women gnash their teeth. Thank the lord my wife loves me. And for earplugs.:p

P.S.
I have often wondered why my Elmers havent used a wouff-hung on me yet. Lord knows I have earned it.

I am a one man Elmer temper control testing device. If you dont kill me after a week of stupid question barrages that I fire your way, then you most assuredly are ready for an IRS audit.
YEAH?!

Well I'm continually told I have a nice face for radio. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif