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Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
W3MIV
11-16-2006, 12:37 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,20:33)]The closer you look, the more they look alike.
And the more you look, the less you like.
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
W3MIV
11-16-2006, 12:50 AM
Another attempt to distract attention from the content by panning the poster.
Just one more refusal to discuss the issue. Something to hide?
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. Funny, the media never asked. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 15 2006,16:50)]Another attempt to distract attention from the content by panning the poster.
Just one more refusal to discuss the issue. Something to hide?
There's nothing to discuss.
This crap is an attempt to create an "issue" with immflamatory language, when there IS no issue. By discussing an absolute falsehood, it may give creedence to the feeble attempt at sliming.
The sad part is you KNOW the technique being attempted here.
No thanks.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma county, CA
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:57)]Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Nov. 15 2006,16:50)]Another attempt to distract attention from the content by panning the poster.
Just one more refusal to discuss the issue. Something to hide?
There's nothing to discuss.
This crap is an attempt to create an "issue" with immflamatory language, when there IS no issue. By discussing an absolute falsehood, it may give creedence to the feeble attempt at sliming.
The sad part is you KNOW the technique being attempted here. #
No thanks.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma county, CA
The shoe is on the other foot now. For the past couple of years, mindless, unfounded and just plain BS about Bush and Company has been posted here, one after the other, derogatory, sliming, outright hatred of republicans.
This is what the Dems wanted, now the spotlight is on them. Let the hangings begin.
K2WH
OK Dave, we'll make this easy. #Pelosi did the very same thing DeLay did.
A quote from the article:
"According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week."
DeLay is out, hounded out of office.
Pelosi is still there. #Why?
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
No "honor" was bestowed on you, don't flatter yourself.
The Democrats have NOT admitted they don't have an agenda. That's a bold face lie and you know it. I defy you to come up with any proof of that classless allegation that isn't from one of your right wing noise machine outlets.
Your second paragraph is nothing but the swill you ingest every day listening to nutjobs like Limbaugh, Hannity et al. There is no basis in fact for these allegations, it's all alleged scare tactic nonsense put forth for the gullible.
I'm not going to debate policy with some ideologue who speaks in cliches. Your credibility is ZERO.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:02)]OK Dave, we'll make this easy. #Pelosi did the very same thing DeLay did.
DeLay is out, hounded out of office.
Pelosi is still there. #Why?
K2WH
No, that isn't correct. Apples and Oranges. Key word "appears".
Don't insult your own intelligence by assuming Pelosi would get away with something in Republican controlled environment.
Read something besides NewsMax.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:02)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
No "honor" was bestowed on you, don't flatter yourself.
The Democrats have NOT admitted they don't have an agenda. That's a bold face lie and you know it. I defy you to come up with any proof of that classless allegation that isn't from one of your right wing noise machine outlets.
Your second paragraph is nothing but the swill you ingest every day listening to nutjobs like Limbaugh, Hannity et al. There is no basis in fact for these allegations, it's all alleged scare tactic nonsense put forth for the gullible.
I'm not going to debate policy with some ideologue who speaks in cliches. Your credibility is ZERO.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
A quote:
"According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week."
Now what do you say? I report, you decide.
K2WH
n6hcm
11-16-2006, 01:06 AM
it seems to me that these "conciliation agreements" are kinda like a plea bargain--it'd seem that the FEC did not have enough evidence to go to trial (because, if they had it, they would), but enough to be a thorn in the side of whoever is charged ... so what made this case significantly different from delay's?
(or am i just being silly by raising this at all?)
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:04)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:02)]OK Dave, we'll make this easy. #Pelosi did the very same thing DeLay did.
DeLay is out, hounded out of office.
Pelosi is still there. #Why?
K2WH
No, that isn't correct. Apples and Oranges. #Key word "appears".
Don't insult your own intelligence by assuming Pelosi would get away with something in Republican controlled environment.
Read something besides NewsMax.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I don't read newmax, never heard of them. #Just Googled and found them. #I use what is out there. #After all, it must be true or they couldn't print it.
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:05)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:02)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
No "honor" was bestowed on you, don't flatter yourself.
The Democrats have NOT admitted they don't have an agenda. That's a bold face lie and you know it. I defy you to come up with any proof of that classless allegation that isn't from one of your right wing noise machine outlets.
Your second paragraph is nothing but the swill you ingest every day listening to nutjobs like Limbaugh, Hannity et al. There is no basis in fact for these allegations, it's all alleged scare tactic nonsense put forth for the gullible.
I'm not going to debate policy with some ideologue who speaks in cliches. Your credibility is ZERO.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
A quote:
"According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week."
Now what do you say? I report, you decide.
K2WH
I answered above.
Your quotation doesn't "prove" anything. I reiterate, a Republican controlled Congress would have hounded Pelosi out of office if they had even a shred of evidence. They covered for DeLay for as long as they could, but his arrogance and over-reaching was too much for them to handle.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:06)]I don't read newmax, never heard of them. #Just Googled and found them. #I use what is out there. #After all, it must be true or they couldn't print it.
K2WH
If any members of the forum believe that statement, I've got a bridge to sell them...
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:07)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:05)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:02)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
No "honor" was bestowed on you, don't flatter yourself.
The Democrats have NOT admitted they don't have an agenda. That's a bold face lie and you know it. I defy you to come up with any proof of that classless allegation that isn't from one of your right wing noise machine outlets.
Your second paragraph is nothing but the swill you ingest every day listening to nutjobs like Limbaugh, Hannity et al. There is no basis in fact for these allegations, it's all alleged scare tactic nonsense put forth for the gullible.
I'm not going to debate policy with some ideologue who speaks in cliches. Your credibility is ZERO.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
A quote:
"According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week."
Now what do you say? I report, you decide.
K2WH
I answered above.
Your quotation doesn't "prove" anything. I reiterate, a Republican controlled Congress would have hounded Pelosi out of office if they had even a shred of evidence. They covered for DeLay for as long as they could, but his arrogance and over-reaching was too much for them to handle.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I don't agree. Republicans can't win a dogfight. They don't know how.
Anyway on to the next Democratic Scandal, stay tuned - shouldn't take long.
I report, you decide.
K2WH
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:10)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:07)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:05)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,14:02)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. #The dems admit they don't have one. #At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. #I think their agenda was to get in power. #The country? #Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. #So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? #I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
No "honor" was bestowed on you, don't flatter yourself.
The Democrats have NOT admitted they don't have an agenda. That's a bold face lie and you know it. I defy you to come up with any proof of that classless allegation that isn't from one of your right wing noise machine outlets.
Your second paragraph is nothing but the swill you ingest every day listening to nutjobs like Limbaugh, Hannity et al. There is no basis in fact for these allegations, it's all alleged scare tactic nonsense put forth for the gullible.
I'm not going to debate policy with some ideologue who speaks in cliches. Your credibility is ZERO.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
A quote:
"According to the March 2004 FEC finding, Pelosi appears to have violated the same kind of arcane campaign finance regulation that spurred the indictment of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay this week."
Now what do you say? I report, you decide.
K2WH
I answered above.
Your quotation doesn't "prove" anything. I reiterate, a Republican controlled Congress would have hounded Pelosi out of office if they had even a shred of evidence. They covered for DeLay for as long as they could, but his arrogance and over-reaching was too much for them to handle.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I don't agree. #Republicans can't win a dogfight. #They don't know how.
Anyway on to the next Democratic Scandal, stay tuned - shouldn't take long.
I report, you decide.
K2WH
You distort, we refute...
KA7RRA
11-16-2006, 02:01 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,18:02)]DeLay is out, hounded out of office.
Pelosi is still there. #Why?
K2WH
Because Dely is a republican and Pelosi is a democrate.There is double standards had Peolosi been A republican, she would have been out
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,19:55)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,16:33)]Some more "Old" news.
Poor Ethically Challenged Pelosi (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/10/1/103918.shtml)
The closer you look, the more they look alike.
K2WH
More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
No, I will not define the democratic agenda but I am really honored that you think I could possibly do that. The dems admit they don't have one. At least they never told anyone and no one ever heard of one. Funny, the media never asked. I think their agenda was to get in power. The country? Oh, they will get around to that after the real agenda.
Do you know what the agenda is? Impeach Bush, start investigations, raise taxes, cut and run from Iraq, let the Bush tax cuts expire, raise immigration quotas etc, etc, etc. So, why don't you tell me what they will do for the country? I'm curious. Inquiring minds would like to know.
K2WH
And I thought you neocons were historically minded, bringing up stuff from 1973, and Clinton and the 2004 election, yet you can't remember the Democratic Agenda that YOU lined to when it was placed here on QRZ??
Typical.
Out of Touch.
Doomed To Repeat.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
n7rjd
11-16-2006, 05:45 AM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,11:08)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Nov. 15 2006,17:06)]I don't read newmax, never heard of them. Just Googled and found them. I use what is out there. After all, it must be true or they couldn't print it.
K2WH
If any members of the forum believe that statement, I've got a bridge to sell them...
Well, I've always wanted my own bridge but I think I'll pass on this one.
I could be convinced that a given person doesn't read NewsMax but when we are talking about a regular reader and poster to these forums I can't believe the "never heard of it" part. NewsMax is mentioned with growing regularity in these forums both as a reference and as a distribution center of right wing pacification (depending on which side is doing the mentioning.)
I don't read NewsMax but I have heard of them a number of times. Taking a point too far detracts from attempts to prove that point.
W8EFA
11-16-2006, 06:23 AM
Newsmax is not News. #It is a extremist right wing propoganda site. #It is pathetic to keep using it for discussion. #Here is some info from the site
Quote[/b] ]Special 2 Year Bonus:
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Dr. Laura's personal advice
Here is some opinions about Newsmax
Quote[/b] ]NewsMax is journalistically corrupt, all right -- but in an incompetent, John Gotti Jr. kind of way.
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2002/nmcorrupt.html
The Best is from Hoovers. #You can't get any more respectable than Hoovers which financially analyzes companies
Quote[/b] ]NewsMax Media serves up the news with a conservative slant. The company publishes alternative news and opinion content through its monthly 300,000-subscriber magazine NewsMax and corresponding Web site. Columnists include Reed Irvine (founder of conservative watchdog group Accuracy In Media) and national broadcasting hosts and analysts Bill O'Reilly, Ed Koch, and Dick Morris.The company generates sales from politically-oriented merchandise (clothing, posters, books) showcasing stars of the Republican Party. # WOW!
http://www.hoovers.com/free....e=print (http://www.hoovers.com/free/co/factsheet.xhtml?ID=105844&mode=print)
Also as I quoted earlier Wikipedia which is an Encyclopedia with PEER REVIEW call it Yellow Journalism
You are a joke WH and as Dave said have no credibility using propoganda sites for your "information".
I guess I will start posting two or three threads every day from Mother Jones etc. outlining Bush lied people Died.
w2nsf
11-16-2006, 02:05 PM
Hey, Bill, with all that pretty ham radio equipment you have, why not just go on the air and USE IT and stop littering this web site with political junk?
KC2KFC
11-16-2006, 02:17 PM
Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON -- As the new House majority caucus prepared to pick its leadership today, Democrats were trying to make the best of the inevitability of Nancy Pelosi as the party's first speaker in a dozen years. They have put out the word that she was not serious in endorsing Rep. John Murtha for majority leader. How much effort she has exerted for her longtime ally is irrelevant, but she has actively solicited votes this week.
The damage to her was irrevocable when she wrote her colleagues last weekend urging them to pick Murtha over Rep. Steny Hoyer. Close associates of Hoyer say her letter stunned him, and he was not alone. While Pelosi had made clear she would vote for Murtha, the public endorsement was unexpected.
Pelosi's mistake confirms longstanding, privately held Democratic apprehension about her abilities. Their concerns do not reflect the Republican indictment of her as a reflexive San Francisco liberal. Some of her most trenchant congressional critics are on the left wing of the party. These colleagues worry that her decision-making may be distorted by personal considerations.Nancy's first mistake (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/11/16/nancys_first_mistake)
W8EFA
11-16-2006, 02:35 PM
Quote[/b] (w2nsf @ Nov. 16 2006,10:05)] Hey, Bill, with all that pretty ham radio equipment you have, why not just go on the air and USE IT and stop littering this web site with political junk?
If you notice I don't start these topics but I am tired of the Right wingers quoting BS from the Blog Sites" .
Anyway this forum is called
Politics, Jokes, Recipes and Stuff. #So if you don't have anything constructive to add, IMO you should try keeping your opinions to yourself of what other people should do?
Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,06:17)]Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON -- As the new House majority caucus prepared to pick its leadership today, Democrats were trying to make the best of the inevitability of Nancy Pelosi as the party's first speaker in a dozen years. They have put out the word that she was not serious in endorsing Rep. John Murtha for majority leader. How much effort she has exerted for her longtime ally is irrelevant, but she has actively solicited votes this week.
The damage to her was irrevocable when she wrote her colleagues last weekend urging them to pick Murtha over Rep. Steny Hoyer. Close associates of Hoyer say her letter stunned him, and he was not alone. While Pelosi had made clear she would vote for Murtha, the public endorsement was unexpected.
Pelosi's mistake confirms longstanding, privately held Democratic apprehension about her abilities. Their concerns do not reflect the Republican indictment of her as a reflexive San Francisco liberal. Some of her most trenchant congressional critics are on the left wing of the party. These colleagues worry that her decision-making may be distorted by personal considerations.Nancy's first mistake (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/11/16/nancys_first_mistake)
Novak? C'mon, Kevin. You're smarter than that.
This is yet another attempt to create and issue that isn't there.
Don't sink to WH's level.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (w2nsf @ Nov. 16 2006,06:05)] Hey, Bill, with all that pretty ham radio equipment you have, why not just go on the air and USE IT and stop littering this web site with political junk?
Talk to your buddy K2WH.
If he doesn't post the propaganda, there won't be a response.
If you don't like the postings, don't read them.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (w2nsf @ Nov. 16 2006,07:05)] Hey, Bill, with all that pretty ham radio equipment you have, why not just go on the air and USE IT and stop littering this web site with political junk?
Probably because nobody wants to talk to him.
KC2KFC
11-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 16 2006,07:41)]Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,06:17)]Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON -- As the new House majority caucus prepared to pick its leadership today, Democrats were trying to make the best of the inevitability of Nancy Pelosi as the party's first speaker in a dozen years. They have put out the word that she was not serious in endorsing Rep. John Murtha for majority leader. How much effort she has exerted for her longtime ally is irrelevant, but she has actively solicited votes this week.
The damage to her was irrevocable when she wrote her colleagues last weekend urging them to pick Murtha over Rep. Steny Hoyer. Close associates of Hoyer say her letter stunned him, and he was not alone. While Pelosi had made clear she would vote for Murtha, the public endorsement was unexpected.
Pelosi's mistake confirms longstanding, privately held Democratic apprehension about her abilities. Their concerns do not reflect the Republican indictment of her as a reflexive San Francisco liberal. Some of her most trenchant congressional critics are on the left wing of the party. These colleagues worry that her decision-making may be distorted by personal considerations.Nancy's first mistake (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/11/16/nancys_first_mistake)
Novak? C'mon, Kevin. You're smarter than that.
This is yet another attempt to create and issue that isn't there.
Don't sink to WH's level.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I'm just posting an opinion from a person who has been reporting on the political scene for many years. We all know it's an opinion piece. There's two sides to every debate. What's wrong with reading his perspective on it?
Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,07:03)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 16 2006,07:41)]Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,06:17)]Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON -- As the new House majority caucus prepared to pick its leadership today, Democrats were trying to make the best of the inevitability of Nancy Pelosi as the party's first speaker in a dozen years. They have put out the word that she was not serious in endorsing Rep. John Murtha for majority leader. How much effort she has exerted for her longtime ally is irrelevant, but she has actively solicited votes this week.
The damage to her was irrevocable when she wrote her colleagues last weekend urging them to pick Murtha over Rep. Steny Hoyer. Close associates of Hoyer say her letter stunned him, and he was not alone. While Pelosi had made clear she would vote for Murtha, the public endorsement was unexpected.
Pelosi's mistake confirms longstanding, privately held Democratic apprehension about her abilities. Their concerns do not reflect the Republican indictment of her as a reflexive San Francisco liberal. Some of her most trenchant congressional critics are on the left wing of the party. These colleagues worry that her decision-making may be distorted by personal considerations.Nancy's first mistake (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/11/16/nancys_first_mistake)
Novak? C'mon, Kevin. You're smarter than that.
This is yet another attempt to create and issue that isn't there. #
Don't sink to WH's level.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I'm just posting an opinion from a person who has been reporting on the political scene for many years. We all know it's an opinion piece. There's two sides to every debate. What's wrong with reading his perspective on it?
Fair enough! Some people have trouble seperating "opinion" from fact. My apologies.
W3MIV
11-16-2006, 03:15 PM
The opinion that Pelosi is subject to a kind of overly personal "vendetta" thinking is held by lots more folks than Novac or some of his sources.
The Hoyer/Pelosi "split" is an indisputable fact, and it is clearly personal. Though I do not particularly like Hoyer as a choice for that level of leadership, I am the first to state that he is one of the more "ethical" members of Congress, whereas Murtha is anything but. Murtha has consistently opposed every attempt to bring ethics to the Congress. Hoyer would be a positive force for bipartisan policy making -- Murtha will be a repellant.
This Democratic "spat" will possibly set the tone for the entire Congress. If this is the measure of Pelosi's political wisdom, we are in big trouble.
Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Nov. 16 2006,03:51)]Quote[/b] (w2nsf @ Nov. 16 2006,07:05)] Hey, Bill, with all that pretty ham radio equipment you have, why not just go on the air and USE IT and stop littering this web site with political junk?
Probably because nobody wants to talk to him.
Unlike many people on this Political Forum (name change), I am on the air everyday, HF -33cm. I believe I am one of the more active hams in the US.
From my heart, I have to say, I hate politics and I love ham radio. Thats why I am not on here 24 hrs per day pounding you non-believing, devil worshipping Democrats. I have great compassion and empathy for you since you obviously "know not what you do (did)".
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K2WH
KC2KFC
11-16-2006, 08:53 PM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 16 2006,08:04)]Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,07:03)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 16 2006,07:41)]Quote[/b] (KC2KFC @ Nov. 16 2006,06:17)]Quote[/b] ]WASHINGTON -- As the new House majority caucus prepared to pick its leadership today, Democrats were trying to make the best of the inevitability of Nancy Pelosi as the party's first speaker in a dozen years. They have put out the word that she was not serious in endorsing Rep. John Murtha for majority leader. How much effort she has exerted for her longtime ally is irrelevant, but she has actively solicited votes this week.
The damage to her was irrevocable when she wrote her colleagues last weekend urging them to pick Murtha over Rep. Steny Hoyer. Close associates of Hoyer say her letter stunned him, and he was not alone. While Pelosi had made clear she would vote for Murtha, the public endorsement was unexpected.
Pelosi's mistake confirms longstanding, privately held Democratic apprehension about her abilities. Their concerns do not reflect the Republican indictment of her as a reflexive San Francisco liberal. Some of her most trenchant congressional critics are on the left wing of the party. These colleagues worry that her decision-making may be distorted by personal considerations.Nancy's first mistake (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2006/11/16/nancys_first_mistake)
Novak? C'mon, Kevin. You're smarter than that.
This is yet another attempt to create and issue that isn't there.
Don't sink to WH's level.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
I'm just posting an opinion from a person who has been reporting on the political scene for many years. We all know it's an opinion piece. There's two sides to every debate. What's wrong with reading his perspective on it?
Fair enough! Some people have trouble seperating "opinion" from fact. My apologies.
No apology necessary Dave. Just be sure to keep an open mind. I just thought you would know me better than that. I'm not one to categorize groups of people. I have several friends who are liberals or democrats and I know they love this country, we just differ in our opinions on how it should be run. For the record I consider myself a conservative and I am for smaller government with fiscal responsibility. I detest big government and I believe it is one of the reasons republicans lost seats in the house and senate this election cycle. The republicans need to go back to their core values of smaller government, lower taxes along with lower spending. Individual freedom and individual responsibility. The government can't take care of everybody. I have no problem with helping the deserving poor. I also believe, though, that not all rich people are evil and the majority of them provide jobs to the middle class through investment into the business sector. Take a look at the evil Bill Gates and the amount of money he has donated to many charitable causes. People may hate his operating system and his software, but his company has provided a lot of good paying jobs to people and he's used some of his hard earned bucks to help those less fortunate.
Now as for Pelosi... I hear she owns a vineyard worth an estimated $25 million, but she hires non union workers to pick the grapes. Anybody know if this is true? The link is an OPINION.
Nancy Pelosi's Sour Grapes (http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=247191278714751)
Quote[/b] ]As Peter Schweizer notes in his best-selling expose of liberal hypocrisy, "Do As I Say (Not As I Do)," part of the fortune of this defender of the working man is a Napa Valley vineyard worth $25 million that she owns with her husband. The vineyard produces expensive grapes for high-end wines. Napa grapes bring up to $4,000 a ton compared with $300 a ton for, say, San Joaquin grapes.
But Pelosi, winner of the 2003 Cesar Chavez award from the United Farm Workers, hires only nonunion workers and sells these grapes to nonunion wineries. Schweizer places Pelosi in a chapter titled "Workers of the World Unite Somewhere Else." UFW members need not apply at the Pelosi family vineyards.
Poor Nancy, like the words on a tee shirt, "If you don't want to run with the big dogs, stay on the porch."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=25526
wd0ct
11-16-2006, 10:19 PM
It is well known that Pelosi slept with Osama Bin Laden and is an Islamic spy.
It is equally well known that Bush, Hastert, and Foley regularly had sexual three ways with each other for years. Bush was always the one with the whip.
w5klb
11-16-2006, 10:41 PM
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 15 2006,17:47)]More slime from the noise machine, courtesy of the minister of QRZ disinformation, K2WH.
Another BS article from Billionaire right wing crackpot Richard Mellon Scaife's propaganda organ, NewsMax.
It's really pathetic how blind partisans like you roll out the slime the second your boys aren't in power.
You AREN'T going to define the agenda or Democrats, WH. There's not one thing legitimate about any article posted from obvious propaganda outlets.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Dave,
Since Bush "stole" the last election and, for whatever the reason, needs to be "impeached", didn't we #see some simular whine coming from your side of the aisle? Did we not see postings here that Karl Rove should of been jailed for "outting" Ms. Plame? And didn't you also start a thead on "Justice Delayed", referring to Tom Delay's ethics sometime back?
So, we "neo-cons" can't point out some uneithical behavior from SanFranNan? Is that the message you're are trying to give us? Sorry, but like Tom Delay and Karl Rove, "our Nancy" is fair game wheather you think it's "slime" or not.
Sorry Dave, but it appears to me that you're playing your "double standards" game again.
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