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nx6d

11-01-2006, 09:21 AM

I find all this righteous indignation over John Kerry's comments really comical.

The spin coming from the right wing noise machine has been whirring all day long. As usual, Limbaugh and Hannity said almost the same thing word for word, and some people lapped it up like a bunch of thirsty puppies. Can't you see you're being played?

The Republicans know they are in trouble. They've got a mess they made in Iraq and no real accomplishments except massive giveaways to the very people who don't need it combined with one of the most corrupt Congresses in recent memory. I'd be spinning hard too if I had their record.

This is a typical Republican response to tough political situations. Find a boogeyman and start lying so they don't have to produce 1. anything of substance and 2. they can hide their REAL agenda while distracting their middle class base with this sort of nonsense.

I'm glad John Kerry fought back with his comments about Tony Snow #and Rush Limbaugh. Those guys deserve whatever they get for their continual lies and distortions.

The "hate America" thing is code for "if your against the right wing agenda, you must be a commie". There is absolutely NO basis in fact for saying liberals "hate America". I defy ANYONE to prove it without resorting to cliches. You won't be able to.

The REAL people that "hate America" are the greedy corporate interests that offshore American jobs to increase stock values which benefit a relatively small group of people.

Spare me the "angry liberal", screeds please. The only "anger" I see is the "anger" over 60% of the nation has for President Bush getting us into the disaster that is Iraq. Speaking of "anger", Republicans didn't seem to be too #upset about #the "angry white men" in 1994. Another example of Republican hypocrisy.

Speaking of hypocrisy, some of the posters whining about "political threads" last week now seem to think political threads are perfectly ok. And you wonder why I don't take some people very seriously. The time that guy calling SY an "angry dem" was classic.

We know have one week, gentlemen. We've already seen some particularily heinous gutter campaign ads from the RNC ad in Tennessee to George Allen's cheap hypocritcal shots at Jim Webb's novels (critically received by conservative outlets such as the National Review and the Weekly Standard) in Virginia and of course Rush Limbaugh's attack on Michael J. Fox. Limbaugh STILL continues to maintain the video of him taken during the Fox screed was speeded up. Only a true dittohead buys that if they've seen the video.

This kind of crap isn't resonating this cycle. The Republicans blew the chance handed to them in 1994 and 2000 by not learning from the mistakes of Democrats. They relied on the heavy handed arm twisting of Tom DeLay, the Rovian mud slinging and distortions assisted by their surrogates from the right wing noise machine and Fox "News", and of course, the "I'm never wrong" arrogance of President Bush and his so-called "charisma".

One last point. Republicans seem pre-disposed to play little boy macho games when attempting to frame a debate. The name calling from the right is FAR louder than from the other side. All you have to do is listen to the noise machine and read the blogs to make that case. Some normally intelligent people slip into this when they can't make a point on facts alone. Personally, I think it's pathetic.

Here comes the chorus of "they all do it". Not to the same degree, people. Think of something original.

Dave NX6D
Sacramento, CA

w2amr

11-01-2006, 10:16 AM

Democrats will raise your taxes.
Democrats are soft on terror.
Cut and Run.
Mike Fox
John Kerry.
Click Click. DAMN, out of bullets.

K2WH

11-01-2006, 11:40 AM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Oct. 31 2006,21:05)]John 'F' Kerry can go 'F' himself http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

On a national scale, politically he finished himself off. On a local scale, only pathetic partisans would re-elect him and if so, they get what they deserve. A neo-nitwit of the first order http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
But, this is what the Pelosi, Kennedy crowd applaude and would most likely agree with his comments.

Look what happened to Joe Leiberman when he didn't toe the line. #Kerry is a loyal liberal in good standing.

K2WH

W5IEI

11-01-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 01 2006,02:21)]I find all this righteous indignation over John Kerry's comments really comical.

The spin coming from the right wing noise machine has been whirring all day long. As usual, Limbaugh and Hannity said almost the same thing word for word, and some people lapped it up like a bunch of thirsty puppies. Can't you see you're being played?

The Republicans know they are in trouble. They've got a mess they made in Iraq and no real accomplishments except massive giveaways to the very people who don't need it combined with one of the most corrupt Congresses in recent memory. I'd be spinning hard too if I had their record.

This is a typical Republican response to tough political situations. Find a boogeyman and start lying so they don't have to produce 1. anything of substance and 2. they can hide their REAL agenda while distracting their middle class base with this sort of nonsense.

I'm glad John Kerry fought back with his comments about Tony Snow and Rush Limbaugh. Those guys deserve whatever they get for their continual lies and distortions.

The "hate America" thing is code for "if your against the right wing agenda, you must be a commie". There is absolutely NO basis in fact for saying liberals "hate America". I defy ANYONE to prove it without resorting to cliches. You won't be able to.

The REAL people that "hate America" are the greedy corporate interests that offshore American jobs to increase stock values which benefit a relatively small group of people.

Spare me the "angry liberal", screeds please. The only "anger" I see is the "anger" over 60% of the nation has for President Bush getting us into the disaster that is Iraq. Speaking of "anger", Republicans didn't seem to be too upset about the "angry white men" in 1994. Another example of Republican hypocrisy.

Speaking of hypocrisy, some of the posters whining about "political threads" last week now seem to think political threads are perfectly ok. And you wonder why I don't take some people very seriously. The time that guy calling SY an "angry dem" was classic.

We know have one week, gentlemen. We've already seen some particularily heinous gutter campaign ads from the RNC ad in Tennessee to George Allen's cheap hypocritcal shots at Jim Webb's novels (critically received by conservative outlets such as the National Review and the Weekly Standard) in Virginia and of course Rush Limbaugh's attack on Michael J. Fox. Limbaugh STILL continues to maintain the video of him taken during the Fox screed was speeded up. Only a true dittohead buys that if they've seen the video.

This kind of crap isn't resonating this cycle. The Republicans blew the chance handed to them in 1994 and 2000 by not learning from the mistakes of Democrats. They relied on the heavy handed arm twisting of Tom DeLay, the Rovian mud slinging and distortions assisted by their surrogates from the right wing noise machine and Fox "News", and of course, the "I'm never wrong" arrogance of President Bush and his so-called "charisma".

One last point. Republicans seem pre-disposed to play little boy macho games when attempting to frame a debate. The name calling from the right is FAR louder than from the other side. All you have to do is listen to the noise machine and read the blogs to make that case. Some normally intelligent people slip into this when they can't make a point on facts alone. Personally, I think it's pathetic.

Here comes the chorus of "they all do it". Not to the same degree, people. Think of something original.

Dave NX6D
Sacramento, CA
I find this hilarious.
You could remove the words republican,and right wing and insert democrat,and left wing and have it correct.

N9XR

11-01-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote[/b] ]What a load of bull crap!

What a pot of PEE PEE.

Who supported the troops when they needed a larger force in the invasion? Bush? Brrreeh! Wrong

Who supported the troops when they needed body armor? Bush? Brrreeh! Wrong.

Who introduces failed policy in Iraq and then plans to "stay the course" for the maximization of US soldier deaths in Iraq? Bush? Ding ding. Correct.

You are learning.

Final question for bonus point.

If you are a soldier in Iraq, do you want to quibble over some quote from a senator, or do you want real support from your president? Quibble? Brrreh. Well, try again next time.

ac4ut

11-01-2006, 01:06 PM

Don't condem Mr.Kerry as a bad person. He as many politicians are just not too smart.
Thomas Jefferson was probably the last president that was one of the most intelligent individuals in the country.
We have been on a downhill slide ever since.
Personally I just can't wait two more years to see how we can find even dumber politicians to elect and before you say we have hit bottom already I believe it could get worse.

WB8MKV

11-01-2006, 01:25 PM

Why the long face John ??

N9XR

11-01-2006, 02:06 PM

I would like for anyone to explain why Bush sycophants do not require Bush to apologize for remarks he makes.

Why does he not have to explain in more detail when he says... Quote[/b] ]There -- it's -- you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror.
White House, Sep. 6, 2006

What about... Quote[/b] ]I strongly believe what we're doing is the right thing. If I didn't believe it -- I'm going to repeat what I said before -- I'd pull the troops out, nor if I believed we could win, I would pull the troops out.
Charlotte, North Carolina, Apr. 6, 2006

What about Bush defending Kerry doing what he wants when he says...

Quote[/b] ]My job as your President is to look at the world the way it is. And I clearly see the threats to America. My job is to worry about those threats. That's not your job. We got a lot of people in government worrying about those threats on your behalf, so you can go about your life. That's what we want.
Nashville, Tennessee, Feb. 1, 2006

I am sure most Dubya defenders here love the mockery that was made last New Years Day when the injuries and losses of our brave soldiers were made light of...
Quote[/b] ]As you can probably see I was injured myself, not here at the hospital but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won.
San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006

Dubya defenders everywhere love the made-up stories they get from Dubya. He admits he can do that...
Quote[/b] ]REPORTER 1: Since the inception of the Iraqi war, I'd like to know the approximate total of Iraqis who have been killed. And by Iraqis I include civilians, military, police, insurgents, translators.
DUBYA: How many Iraqi citizens have died in this war? I would say 30,000, more or less, have died as a result of the initial incursion and the ongoing violence against Iraqis. We've lost about 2,140 of our own troops in Iraq. Yes.
REPORTER 2: Mr. President, thank you --
DUBYA: I'll repeat the question. If I don't like it, I'll make it up.
-- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, Dec. 12, 2005

What about the patronization of hard working soldiers? Dubya supporters love it when he makes them look like idiots... Quote[/b] ]SERGEANT LOMBARDO: First, I'd like to say that this is a pleasure to speak with you again. We had the honor of your visit in New York City on November 11th, in 2001, when you recognized our Rainbow Soldiers --
DUBYA: Yeah.
SERGEANT LOMBARDO: -- for their recovery and rescue efforts at Ground Zero.
DUBYA: Were you there?
SERGEANT LOMBARDO: We began our fight against terror -- we began our fight against terrorism -- in the wake of 9/11, and we're proud to continue it here in northcentral New York -- northcentral Iraq.
DUBYA: Let me ask you something. Were you there when I came to New York?
SERGEANT LOMBARDO: Yes, I was, Mr. President.
DUBYA: Yeah, I thought you looked familiar.
SERGEANT LOMBARDO: Well, thank you.
Washington, D.C., Oct. 13, 2005

Well, I doubt I can find and defenders of these actual quotes. But lots of excuses.

K3XR

11-01-2006, 02:06 PM

There's support, all over the place, for Johnny.

http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Global....av=F2DO (http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5616595&nav=F2DO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZMRecdL_No

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/local....ntstory (http://www.mankatofreepress.com/local/local_story_305000815.html/resources_printstory)

N9XR

11-01-2006, 02:21 PM

Quote[/b] (W5IEI @ Oct. 31 2006,23:05)]Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 01 2006,02:21)]I find all this righteous indignation over John Kerry's comments really comical.
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Dave NX6D
Sacramento, CA
I find this hilarious.
You could remove the words republican,and right wing and insert democrat,and left wing and have it correct.
Let's try IEI oh one who faked his own disappearance.

IEI's idea of flipping...Quote[/b] ]The spin coming from the left wing noise machine has been whirring all day long. As usual, Limbaugh and Hannity said almost the same thing word for word, and some people lapped it up like a bunch of thirsty puppies. Can't you see you're being played? does not sound right to me

The Democrats know they are in trouble. They've got a mess they made in Iraq and no real accomplishments except massive giveaways to the very people who don't need it combined with one of the most corrupt Congresses in recent memory. I'd be spinning hard too if I had their record. totally incorrect

This is a typical Democratic response to tough political situations. Find a boogeyman and start lying so they don't have to produce 1. anything of substance and 2. they can hide their REAL agenda while distracting their middle class base with this sort of nonsense. indeed nonsense

I'm glad John Kerry fought back with his comments about Tony Snow and Rush Limbaugh. Those guys deserve whatever they get for their continual lies and distortions.

The "hate America" thing is code for "if your against the left wing agenda, you must be a commie". There is absolutely NO basis in fact for saying liberals "hate America". I defy ANYONE to prove it without resorting to cliches. You won't be able to. again, makes no sense, IEI

The REAL people that "hate America" are the greedy corporate interests that offshore American jobs to increase stock values which benefit a relatively small group of people.

Spare me the "angry liberal", screeds please. The only "anger" I see is the "anger" over 60% of the nation has for President Bush getting us into the disaster that is Iraq. Speaking of "anger", Democrats didn't seem to be too upset about the "angry white men" in 1994. Another example of Democratic hypocrisy. I think IEI has made a statement he cannot defend

Speaking of hypocrisy, some of the posters whining about "political threads" last week now seem to think political threads are perfectly ok. And you wonder why I don't take some people very seriously. The time that guy calling SY an "angry dem" was classic.

We know have one week, gentlemen. We've already seen some particularily heinous gutter campaign ads from the DNC ad in Tennessee to George Allen's cheap hypocritcal shots at Jim Webb's novels (critically received by conservative outlets such as the National Review and the Weekly Standard) in Virginia and of course Rush Limbaugh's attack on Michael J. Fox. Limbaugh STILL continues to maintain the video of him taken during the Fox screed was speeded up. Only a true dittohead buys that if they've seen the video. DNC is pretty funny here

This kind of crap isn't resonating this cycle. The Democratss blew the chance handed to them in 1994 and 2000 by not learning from the mistakes of Democrats. heh hehThey relied on the heavy handed arm twisting of Tom DeLay, the Rovian mud slinging and distortions assisted by their surrogates from the left wing noise machine and Fox "News", and of course, the "I'm never wrong" arrogance of President Bush and his so-called "charisma".

One last point. Democrats seem pre-disposed to play little boy macho games when attempting to frame a debate. The name calling from the right is FAR louder than from the other side. All you have to do is listen to the noise machine and read the blogs to make that case. Some normally intelligent people slip into this when they can't make a point on facts alone. Personally, I think it's pathetic. Dems debate issues, Repubs name call because they have no alternative

Here comes the chorus of "they all do it". Not to the same degree, people. Think of something original.

I don't see your point, IEI.

KC2KFC

11-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Nov. 01 2006,02:21)]...The REAL people that "hate America" are the greedy corporate interests that offshore American jobs to increase stock values which benefit a relatively small group of people...

Dave NX6D
Sacramento, CA
Many of those "greedy corporate interests" are pension plans that invest heavily in coporate common stocks, preferred stocks and bonds. They invest in those corporations to receive dividends and increases in stock values in order to pay the retired folks who rely on that money to live. So the "all corporate interests are evil" doesn't wash. It's the same as saying all liberals hate America.

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 02:46 PM

You neo nitwits conveniently lose focus on the fact Kerrys' comments are totally out of line. Why does any other idiot thing Bush or anyone else said have to do with a thread about Kerry? You are pathetic and as bad as the ones you condemn. Stay focused - this is about John F'ing Kerry, not your pet point of hate

KD6NIG

11-01-2006, 03:00 PM

Focused? They don't want ANYONE to remain focused. Why do you think right now they are throwing all this stuff at us right now right before the election?

If we were focused, they would all be out of a job come the first of the year, because we'd realise the game BOTH sides are playing, and we toss them all out on thier keester.

Yeah, this guy made an idiotic statement, and hes probably made a few before, but we just keep on electing them in also.....

I'm hoping most people voted this year like I voted absentee. I voted against the incumbants this year. If I did half the stuff they get away with at work, I would have been on welfare a long time ago.

Some people get tossed up on a pedestal because of popularity, and some are up there because they are elected to be.

I hope the next time someone like this from EITHER side of the aisle is up for reelection, you toss him out on his butt. Then maybe they will understand that by being in congress, they are supposed to REPRESENT the people that put them there in the first place, not use thier position to make idiotic commentary.

Its time to clean house and REMEMBER what some of these idiots say. We probably won't even remember this after a week, but really, some of these "SENIOR" senators need to be retired by being voted out. No wonder why nobody has any new ideas-we don't put anyone new in until someone dies.

I think we'd have better representation if these people feared for losing thier jobs a bit more than they do now. I don't honestly care who wins the majority Nov 7th. I'm hoping that we see quite a few people get tossed out who thought they were secure.

Make them like the average worker in this country who sometimes doesn't know if they will have a job tommorrow, and drop thier ego down a few pegs. You have a job to do-why not do it and keep your trap shut sometimes. You would probably be much better off.

May everyone remember him come next election. Force this clown to find a job in the 'private sector' where he actually has to do more than run his mouth.

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 03:06 PM

Im with ya Joshua; vote out incumbents. Its a form of term limits I like! Problem with Kerry is he will just go home to the ketchup queen, so he and other politicians of his ilk really wont be hurt by being out of a job. We however will be better off being rid of their likes.

KA8NCR

11-01-2006, 03:08 PM

Let me help you understand this a little better.

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Let's take this in a Republican context; you're from an inner-city school where education isn't exactly stellar or you just sluffed your way through high school. What jobs are available to you? Uh, the military. So yeah, being completely candid, that *IS* what happens to you. Our military is comprised of people, many who are there because their economic opportunities are few. In the Republican context, Kerry was telling the truth.

But that isn't what he was saying. What he was saying was that "you know, education, [had the Republicans made] the most of it, and studies[ed] hard, [and did their] homework and you make [made] an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Furthermore, I wouldn't have had to edit in all of 8 words if the Republicans would quote the preceding paragraph of Kerry's speech because the context would be completely obvious.

So either way, if I take it in the Republican line of thinking, Kerry is completely correct. If I take it in the correct context, he's, well, completely correct. Admittedly, I wouldn't have said it either way.

N9XR

11-01-2006, 03:14 PM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,01:46)]You neo nitwits conveniently lose focus on the fact Kerrys' comments are totally out of line. Why does any other idiot thing Bush or anyone else said have to do with a thread about Kerry? You are pathetic and as bad as the ones you condemn. Stay focused - this is about John F'ing Kerry, not your pet point of hate
Let's play your "game".

If what you say is true, the offending statements would have been posted.

I don't see them in this thread.

I see the "Kerry defense" for his statements. I see Dubya stating that common people who are not in government should leave those in government alone. But you don't. You bash Kerry without quoting his offending statement or statements.

What's with that?

KD6NIG

11-01-2006, 03:18 PM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,08:06)]Im with ya Joshua; vote out incumbents. Its a form of term limits I like! Problem with Kerry is he will just go home to the ketchup queen, so he and other politicians of his ilk really wont be hurt by being out of a job. We however will be better off being rid of their likes.
True, but I think being called the FORMER senator might knock his ego down a few pegs too. I think a lot of it is that, by the way-these guys get way too full of themselves from the attention they get.

I mean although its negative publicity, you know hes basking in the glow of the TV lights right now.

And thats where these guys need to be knocked down a few pegs. Sure, being a senator is a few pegs above the average person, but you need to rememeber, primarily, what your job really is-REPRESENTATION.

When you make statements like this, you basically tell the people you're representing you don't care about them. Then you cry because they are complaining.

Someone really needs to hand this guy a description of his job, point him to his desk, and put him "on task" for a while. If you or I were lucky, thats all our bosses would do if we did something like this. Its more likely you'd be calling or standing in an unemployment line.

We can blame where we are today on the president or whoever, but honestly, we're where we are right now because EVERYONE in the government had a hand in it. Wether they spearheaded it by creating the bill, or helped it through by voting on it within 'party lines', they are ALL responsible.

Perhaps if a few of them would actually vote with the people they represent in mind instead of just sticking to whatever the party says they should do, we'd get a little more done.

And maybe I could win the lottery, because I know the odds of someone who represents me doing so is about the same....

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 03:56 PM

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Nov. 01 2006,08:14)]Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,01:46)]You neo nitwits conveniently lose focus on the fact Kerrys' comments are totally out of line. Why does any other idiot thing Bush or anyone else said have to do with a thread about Kerry? You are pathetic and as bad as the ones you condemn. Stay focused - this is about John F'ing Kerry, not your pet point of hate
Let's play your "game".

If what you say is true, the offending statements would have been posted.

I don't see them in this thread.

I see the "Kerry defense" for his statements. #I see Dubya stating that common people who are not in government should leave those in government alone. #But you don't. #You bash Kerry without quoting his offending statement or statements.

What's with that?
Jeez Jerry, youre really not that obtuse are you? I heard his diatribe on so many news outlets yesterday and this morning and it hasnt changed at all. You heard the same thing. It is offensive and thats whats up with that. And your problem is??

N9XR

11-01-2006, 04:46 PM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,02:56)]Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Nov. 01 2006,08:14)]Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,01:46)]You neo nitwits conveniently lose focus on the fact Kerrys' comments are totally out of line. Why does any other idiot thing Bush or anyone else said have to do with a thread about Kerry? You are pathetic and as bad as the ones you condemn. Stay focused - this is about John F'ing Kerry, not your pet point of hate
Let's play your "game".

If what you say is true, the offending statements would have been posted.

I don't see them in this thread.

I see the "Kerry defense" for his statements. I see Dubya stating that common people who are not in government should leave those in government alone. But you don't. You bash Kerry without quoting his offending statement or statements.

What's with that?
Jeez Jerry, youre really not that obtuse are you? I heard his diatribe on so many news outlets yesterday and this morning and it hasnt changed at all. You heard the same thing. It is offensive and thats whats up with that. And your problem is??
Look. I see a senator speaking to a group of college kids on, what, Monday?

Most of the stink here is whether Kerry should apologize for giving a pep talk to college kids. Lets ask Lance Corporal Troy D.Nealey if he is offended... Oh, sorry, he's dead.

n0ov

11-01-2006, 08:32 PM

Update -- Kerry issued an appology to the troops, which should have taken place immediately when he received feedback on how his backfired joke was being received.

Everyone takes a big bite out of their foot from time to time, and this will likely not be the last time he has the opportunity to do so. Let's only hope he will do damage control a lot faster then.

Shame -- this whole thing would not have happened if he didn't believe his primary job is to point fingers at Bush. Perhaps the next lesson learned out of this is spend less time pointing fingers and more time doing something that matters.

This is the exact reason why the news media loves Kerry and why Kerry and Hilliary will be front line news in 2008.

What a country!

KD6NIG

11-01-2006, 09:12 PM

Someone oughta tell Mr Kerry that the next time he chooses to tell a joke badly, perhaps he should rehearse it a few more times.

Or, if you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot in front of a live audience, use a smaller caliber weapon. The military is a pretty large group to be offending by "slipping" on a joke.

Leave the joke telling to the professionals-truck drivers who come to my gate http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KC2PBJ

11-01-2006, 09:51 PM

From Labor Day through Election Day is well-defined as a political silly season. #If you believe only half of the nasty things each candidate says about the other, BOTH should be in jail for multiple charges. #The day after and these jaboneys are kissy huggy again. #The whole method is a pile of fermented fecal material withthe only winners being the suppliers of mud. #While I have never missed the opportunity to vote, I refuse all attempts for meto be locked in as a party member. #I'd love to see a nation-wide election where voters did not exercise their right based on the principle of "the lesser of two evils". #Naive perhaps? #Probably! #Issues and position answers always are better than "the other dude is a festering rectal opening. #(Take your moderating hand off the delete key cause I cleaned it up - albiet unwillingly.)

kf6rdn

11-01-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Nov. 01 2006,04:34)]Quote[/b] ]What a load of bull crap!

What a pot of PEE PEE.
What a vat of pig vomit!

(Sorry, I really just wanted to get in on the expletives.)

W2ILP

11-01-2006, 10:02 PM

I dunno if what Kerry said is so bad. #Maybe he should have put his concept into different words.
Hmmmm...If I was writting a speech for him...I'd say...
!@#$%^&*...We need more honor students in the honorable services.

Well now...Maybe I wouldn't say that....but I might agree with it.

I dunno if it is still true but there was a time when applicants for jobs as New York policemen were given an intelligence test. #Those who scored low were eliminated BUT those who scored very high were also eliminated. #The reason being that anyone who has a high IQ doesn't really want to be a cop, or probably will eventualy find ways of making more money than policemen get...either legally or illegally. #I dunno if this is still true ...It would be taken as an insult by New York's finest, who insist that they are smarter than the average sanitation worker or firefighter. #Enuf sed...We need them all...but between you and I we don't need them to be wise guys.

If they want a lot of smart soldiers they will have to draft them...They might even get some real smart Hams if they do.

w2ilp (Intelligence Likes Peace)

W7WV

11-01-2006, 10:04 PM

As a vet I support the troops 100%.
That does not mean I support the stupid politicians that put them there.
I felt the same way about RVN

nz3m

11-01-2006, 10:13 PM

If the Democrats were smart... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

ALL of them should have shunned Kerry right out of the party. You would have had the election in the bag.

Now, ALL of them look like Kerry. And Kerry looks like a bad guy.

Get it? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

w2amr

11-01-2006, 10:39 PM

This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off the floor.

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,15:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
This from a south Jersey wise guy. So George, what do the dems have going FOR them this time around? Hmmm? Seems to me the crumb licking is coming from the other pathetic side as well.

k9kxq

11-01-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 11:20 PM

Quote[/b] (n9xr @ Nov. 01 2006,09:46)]Look. #I see a senator speaking to a group of college kids on, what, Monday?

Most of the stink here is whether Kerry should apologize for giving a pep talk to college kids. #Lets ask Lance Corporal Troy D.Nealey if he is offended... #Oh, sorry, he's dead.
Your defense of the indefensible is, well, indefensible. I dont know who Lance Corporal Nealy was, and it is tragic he died. What does bringing his memory into this have to do with the infamous solider Kerrys' commentary? Just because Kerry possibly did the things he slammed his comrades for at those congressional hearings in 1971 doesnt make him a friend of the military and his comments this week only reinforced the perception of his lack of understanding and a definate reinforcement of his lack of character. Dont fall in the same hole, OM

w2amr

11-01-2006, 11:24 PM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,16:11)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,15:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
This from a south Jersey wise guy. So George, what do the dems have going FOR them this time around? Hmmm? Seems to me the crumb licking is coming from the other pathetic side as well.
Glad you asked. #I have heard the Dems talking about.....
Ending the war, affordable health care including prescription drugs, Getting rid of the republican tax cuts for the rich and cutting taxes for the middle class, working to solve global warming, raising the minimum wage, lowering health insurance costs , enact REAL homeland security, develop an energy policy WITHOUT the help of oil company executives, increasing benefits for #returning troops.
Your turn tough guy.

w2amr

11-01-2006, 11:34 PM

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,16:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
I happened to tune in to the rush limpbaugh comedy show for a bit today. I couldn't believe it, he had the president on the phone. Were they talking about how the Republicans were going to solve some of the serious problems that face our country? Hell no. They just took turns bashing Democrats and John Kerry in particular. My gag reflex kicked in after 5 minutes of this nonsense and I had to tune out.

nz3m

11-01-2006, 11:34 PM

Global warming? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

ac4ut

11-01-2006, 11:42 PM

Quote[/b] (AB3BK @ Nov. 01 2006,16:34)]Global warming? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
That's Al's turf!

kk7ue

11-01-2006, 11:44 PM

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,16:24)]Glad you asked. #I have heard the Dems talking about.....
Ending the war, affordable health care including prescription drugs, Getting rid of the republican tax cuts for the rich and cutting taxes for the middle class, working to solve global warming, raising the minimum wage, lowering health insurance costs , enact REAL homeland security, develop an energy policy WITHOUT the help of oil company executives, increasing benefits for #returning troops.
Your turn tough guy.
Your Dems George must be different from the Dems in my neck of the woods. My Dems want to leave another fall of Saigon, tax the snot outta everyone left here since there are no rich except the government class, solve so-called global warming by forcing everyone in the city to ride an overpriced trolley and bicycles everywhere (does me no good whatsoever) and by publically stating that their policy is to increase gridlock 4 fold, kill more business by raising the minimum wage even higher, provide socialized medicine to the illegals and screw the citizens by making them pay for it and deny them services (personal experience here), not cooperate in the JTTF or participate in any other means of "real' homeland security, stifle energy growth and independence by blocking attempts to build needed infrastructure to do just that, and they dont give a damn about the veterans around here one bit. THAT is from the Dems around here, I hope your Dems are a better lot. Sounds like you have a socialist utopia going on out on your side of the country George. Enjoy it and thanks for the backhanded compliment on my ruggedness! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

BTW, cool cars man

w2amr

11-02-2006, 12:02 AM

Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Nov. 01 2006,14:12)]Someone oughta tell Mr Kerry that the next time he chooses to tell a joke badly, perhaps he should rehearse it a few more times.

Or, if you're gonna shoot yourself in the foot in front of a live audience, use a smaller caliber weapon. #The military is a pretty large group to be offending by "slipping" on a joke.

Leave the joke telling to the professionals-truck drivers who come to my gate http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
After this I think it might be a good idea to have MR. Kerry escorted to Howard Deans house. Take him down to the basement, #tie him in #a chair, and have his mouth duct taped shut until after the election.

w2amr

11-02-2006, 12:04 AM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,16:44)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,16:24)]Glad you asked. #I have heard the Dems talking about.....
Ending the war, affordable health care including prescription drugs, Getting rid of the republican tax cuts for the rich and cutting taxes for the middle class, working to solve global warming, raising the minimum wage, lowering health insurance costs , enact REAL homeland security, develop an energy policy WITHOUT the help of oil company executives, increasing benefits for #returning troops.
Your turn tough guy.
Your Dems George must be different from the Dems in my neck of the woods. My Dems want to leave another fall of Saigon, tax the snot outta everyone left here since there are no rich except the government class, solve so-called global warming by forcing everyone in the city to ride an overpriced trolley and bicycles everywhere (does me no good whatsoever) and by publically stating that their policy is to increase gridlock 4 fold, kill more business by raising the minimum wage even higher, provide socialized medicine to the illegals and screw the citizens by making them pay for it and deny them services (personal experience here), not cooperate in the JTTF or participate in any other means of "real' homeland security, stifle energy growth and independence by blocking attempts to build needed infrastructure to do just that, and they dont give a damn about the veterans around here one bit. THAT is from the Dems around here, I hope your Dems are a better lot. Sounds like you have a socialist utopia going on out on your side of the country George. Enjoy it and thanks for the backhanded compliment on my ruggedness! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

BTW, cool cars man
Tnx , tough guy. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

n2nh

11-02-2006, 12:09 AM

http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/624/tmw012506gw2.jpg

K3XR

11-02-2006, 01:28 AM

Even lard axx, and former unindicted ABSCAM co-conspirator, Murtha, says Kerry has some explaining to do...
http://hotair.com/archive....e-meant (http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/01/video-murtha-kerry-needs-to-explain-what-he-meant/)

KE5FRF

11-02-2006, 01:51 AM

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,18:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
You know, it is really sad. The dems around here acuse us "neocons" of being unthinking robots. Yet, when "their guy" is under fire, and every ounce of reason indicates he made a SERIOUS err in judgement, they still circle the wagons and hold the party line. Will you guys prove your thoughtfulness on this one and just admit he isn't worth a damn? Can we just call a spade a spade and admit that?

OK, I tell you what, lets do a fair trade.

I openly admit that Dick Cheney is a boob and a scoundrel. I agree with his policies, but I admit that he is a crook and a scumbag.

Now, can I hear one Democrat/liberal utter the truth about John Kerry? You don't even have to say you disagree with him politically.

Just this once, come on guys...Just say "I agree with Kerry politically, but this time around the guy went too far and said a very hurtful, dispicable thing. I think he needs to apologize, seriously apologize. And next time he sticks his foot in his mouth, he needs to do damage control a little quicker"

Common', would this be too hard? Or would it require too much thought?

I heard a caller on lib-radio today basically say "Yeah, dude, Kerry didn't mean it like it sounded. What he meant was that if the college kids educate themselves on Iraq, like Bush should have done, then they won't get stuck in Iraq, meaning that if Bush had educated himself on Middle East stuff, dude, then we wouldn't be in this stupid war."

HAHAHAH!!! I about wrecked my car laughing so hard. What a flippin' stretch! Just listen to what the elitist idiot said! He despises the military. He despised it in the late 60's and early 70's when he cut and ran, he has despised it his whole career, and he despises it now. He looks down his nose at people (like myself) who have served in the armed forces (and are proud of that fact). The words aren't complicated folks. They need no special context. And I fail to get the "punchline" of his botched joke.

Common, Dems, just admit it...
say the words with me...

Kerry is an idiot
one more time
Kerry is an idiot.

You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.

K1OU

11-02-2006, 02:27 AM

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 01 2006,18:51)]You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.
Even though I really think Kerry was trying to paint Bush as stupid, it didn't sound right. And in the soundbite political world, that is the risk you run, when nuances of speech, such as timing and tone, are out of synch with the intended meaning. Not what you say but how you say it, and it made firewood for the Republicans.

Unfortunately for Republicans, however, not enough firewood to add more smoke to what Bush has been blowing up the public's ass for five years.

N9XR

11-02-2006, 02:41 AM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,01:46)]You neo nitwits conveniently lose focus on the fact Kerrys' comments are totally out of line. Why does any other idiot thing Bush or anyone else said have to do with a thread about Kerry? You are pathetic and as bad as the ones you condemn. Stay focused - this is about John F'ing Kerry, not your pet point of hate
I love this attitude of picking and choosing the party of those who say stupid things. "Let's keep focus of bashing only the things that Democrats say. If a Republican purposely mocks the soldiers injuries in a Texas military hospital, this shows patriotism. If a Democrat tangles his tongue doing humor, it is treason.”

KE5FRF

11-02-2006, 03:55 AM

Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Nov. 01 2006,21:27)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 01 2006,18:51)]You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.
Even though I really think Kerry was trying to paint Bush as stupid, it didn't sound right. And in the soundbite political world, that is the risk you run, when nuances of speech, such as timing and tone, are out of synch with the intended meaning. Not what you say but how you say it, and it made firewood for the Republicans.

Unfortunately for Republicans, however, not enough firewood to add more smoke to what Bush has been blowing up the public's ass for five years.
Thank you for that partial admission.

I hope it wasn't too painful for ya. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KE5FRF

11-02-2006, 04:00 AM

An interesting blog I just read...

Quote[/b] ]These Republithugs just don't understand the nuance of your words. You shouldn't apologize; you said you wouldn't and then you did. Why? It was only a joke. Just like the Winter Soldier testimony when you said:

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

It takes gravitas to understand the nuance of this joke. Dick Durbin understands.

Tossing the medals over the fence took gravitas, too.

k9kxq

11-02-2006, 05:20 AM

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 01 2006,20:51)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,18:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
You know, it is really sad. The dems around here acuse us "neocons" of being unthinking robots. Yet, when "their guy" is under fire, and every ounce of reason indicates he made a SERIOUS err in judgement, they still circle the wagons and hold the party line. Will you guys prove your thoughtfulness on this one and just admit he isn't worth a damn? Can we just call a spade a spade and admit that?

OK, I tell you what, lets do a fair trade.

I openly admit that Dick Cheney is a boob and a scoundrel. I agree with his policies, but I admit that he is a crook and a scumbag.

Now, can I hear one Democrat/liberal utter the truth about John Kerry? You don't even have to say you disagree with him politically.

Just this once, come on guys...Just say "I agree with Kerry politically, but this time around the guy went too far and said a very hurtful, dispicable thing. I think he needs to apologize, seriously apologize. And next time he sticks his foot in his mouth, he needs to do damage control a little quicker"

Common', would this be too hard? Or would it require too much thought?

I heard a caller on lib-radio today basically say "Yeah, dude, Kerry didn't mean it like it sounded. What he meant was that if the college kids educate themselves on Iraq, like Bush should have done, then they won't get stuck in Iraq, meaning that if Bush had educated himself on Middle East stuff, dude, then we wouldn't be in this stupid war."

HAHAHAH!!! I about wrecked my car laughing so hard. What a flippin' stretch! Just listen to what the elitist idiot said! He despises the military. He despised it in the late 60's and early 70's when he cut and ran, he has despised it his whole career, and he despises it now. He looks down his nose at people (like myself) who have served in the armed forces (and are proud of that fact). The words aren't complicated folks. They need no special context. And I fail to get the "punchline" of his botched joke.

Common, Dems, just admit it...
say the words with me...

Kerry is an idiot
one more time
Kerry is an idiot.

You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.
What a friggin fruit cake, they had to be hard up for recruits to let this sort in the military, is that calling a spade a spade or what!

kxq

n2ize

11-02-2006, 08:51 AM

Quote[/b] (kk7ue @ Nov. 01 2006,16:44)]
Quote[/b] ]
Your Dems George must be different from the Dems in my neck of the woods. My Dems want to leave another fall of Saigon

Yeah, we should have stayed the course in Vietnam, got a whole lot more people killed in a dirty war that we didn't belong in to begin with. Now we should stay the course in yet another corrupt war. Good thinkin.

Quote[/b] ]
tax the snot outta everyone left here since there are no rich except the government class,

So, you're republican president reduced taxes to the richest Americans and is relying on a communist country to buy our debts. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Sooner or later your taxes are gonna go up. Who is gonna pay for this debt ?? You, your children, your grandchildren
thats who.

Quote[/b] ]
solve so-called global warming by forcing everyone in the city to ride an overpriced trolley and bicycles everywhere (does me no good whatsoever) and by publically stating that their policy is to increase gridlock 4 fold,

Really ? where did you hear this ?? Not that there is anything wrong with building increased and improved public transportation. Even if it doesn't solve global warming what is so terrible about having slightly cleaner air. Maybe a bit less asthma, cancer, etc... How terrible.

Quote[/b] ]
kill more business by raising the minimum wage even higher

raising the minimum wage is not going to kill business. As a matter of fact it is obscene that in 10 years the minimum wage has not been increased. The cost of living has gone way up, corporate CEO's are making enormous profits, politicians have given themselves raises yet we can't raise the stinking minimum wage a few cents, let alon a buck or two ? The politiciansd responsible for keeping the minimum wage so low should be ashamed of themselves.

Quote[/b] ]
, provide socialized medicine to the illegals and screw the citizens by making them pay for it and deny them services (personal experience here)

Yeah, your doing a lot better by getting ripped of by insurance companies and greedy drug companies that charger several times the price for the same drug here than they do outside the USA. What a horrible thing it would be to have a decent, affordable, national health care plan that Americans can use. Perish the thought that a elderly poor person should be able to get a needed operation or medical treatment without spending the rest of his life in debt, and then passing that debt on tio his children as is the case presently.

Quote[/b] ]
and they dont give a damn about the veterans around here one bit.

Like the republicans give a rats tail about veterans ?? Don't make me laugh. More VA hospitals and treatment centers closing down under Bush, forcing sick and disabled vets to have to travel further and further from home to reach the few overcrowded VA hospitals that are left.

KE5FRF

11-02-2006, 01:38 PM

Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 02 2006,00:20)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 01 2006,20:51)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,18:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
You know, it is really sad. The dems around here acuse us "neocons" of being unthinking robots. Yet, when "their guy" is under fire, and every ounce of reason indicates he made a SERIOUS err in judgement, they still circle the wagons and hold the party line. Will you guys prove your thoughtfulness on this one and just admit he isn't worth a damn? Can we just call a spade a spade and admit that?

OK, I tell you what, lets do a fair trade.

I openly admit that Dick Cheney is a boob and a scoundrel. I agree with his policies, but I admit that he is a crook and a scumbag.

Now, can I hear one Democrat/liberal utter the truth about John Kerry? You don't even have to say you disagree with him politically.

Just this once, come on guys...Just say "I agree with Kerry politically, but this time around the guy went too far and said a very hurtful, dispicable thing. I think he needs to apologize, seriously apologize. And next time he sticks his foot in his mouth, he needs to do damage control a little quicker"

Common', would this be too hard? Or would it require too much thought?

I heard a caller on lib-radio today basically say "Yeah, dude, Kerry didn't mean it like it sounded. What he meant was that if the college kids educate themselves on Iraq, like Bush should have done, then they won't get stuck in Iraq, meaning that if Bush had educated himself on Middle East stuff, dude, then we wouldn't be in this stupid war."

HAHAHAH!!! I about wrecked my car laughing so hard. What a flippin' stretch! Just listen to what the elitist idiot said! He despises the military. He despised it in the late 60's and early 70's when he cut and ran, he has despised it his whole career, and he despises it now. He looks down his nose at people (like myself) who have served in the armed forces (and are proud of that fact). The words aren't complicated folks. They need no special context. And I fail to get the "punchline" of his botched joke.

Common, Dems, just admit it...
say the words with me...

Kerry is an idiot
one more time
Kerry is an idiot.

You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.
What a friggin fruit cake, they had to be hard up for recruits to let this sort in the military, is that calling a spade a spade or what!

kxq
You talking about ME or Kerry?

Kerry wasn't a "recruit", he was an officer, so am I to gather you are referring to me?

KD6NIG

11-02-2006, 03:53 PM

Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,16:34)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,16:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
I happened to tune in to the rush limpbaugh comedy show for a bit today. I couldn't believe it, he had the president on the phone. Were they talking about how the Republicans were going to solve some of the serious problems that face our country? Hell no. They just took turns bashing Democrats and John Kerry in particular. My gag reflex kicked in after 5 minutes of this nonsense #and I had to tune out.
I wonder if they decided to go full circle and throw in a few "Fox" jokes too while they were at it.

I mean, if you're gonna bash, you might as well offend everyone, right?

w4glm

11-02-2006, 04:13 PM

Didn't vote for the P.O.S. (NEVER have / NEVER will).

I am truly ashamed to call him a Comrade-inArms.

What a piece of work.

I truly believe he should be placed on the Republican

National Committee's payroll. He is the best weapon

we could have hoped for. I wonder how long we will all

remember his remarks.

Some people do not get it and never will.

We should all support our troops anyway we can.

I believe Kerry has some serious anger issues......Mac

K0RGR

11-02-2006, 04:32 PM

Here's Kerry's formal apology - I know you won't be satisfied, but here it is anyway -

"As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.

It is clear the Republican Party would rather talk about anything but their failed security policy. I don’t want my verbal slip to be a diversion from the real issues. I will continue to fight for a change of course to provide real security for our country, and a winning strategy for our troops."

The man can't say much more than that. You of the elephant party will pretend you don't believe him until your last breath, anyway. The guy did two tours in Vietnam so he could come home and make jokes about how dumb GI's are - right?

W2ILP

11-02-2006, 05:50 PM

I recently read that elephants can recognize themselves when shown a mirror. #We now know that some apes, elephants and humans are intelligent enough to realize that they exist as they are, and have the concept of self recognition.

In my opinion our troops who have voluntered to go to Iraq are also intelligent enough to know who they are. #From this intelligence they may also be cognisant as to whether Kerry's original statement applies to them or not. #If they are not intelligent enough to venture an opinion..it only proves that Kerry was correct...but I have read what some of the returing troops have said and they themselves admit that they did a stupid thing by volunteering to bring democracy to Iraq. #Yep..They are now intelligent enough to know that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was a big mistake.

w2ilp (I Like Peace)..I know that the truth hurts....Please be brave enough to admit it.

n0ov

11-02-2006, 06:22 PM

Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ Nov. 01 2006,10:32)]Here's Kerry's formal apology -
"As a combat veteran, I want to make it clear to anyone in uniform and to their loved ones: my poorly stated joke at a rally was not about, and never intended to refer to any troop.

I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended.
This was the correct thing to do.

More importantly, this should have happened on Monday right as the stink started to rise instead of playing the "lets place the blame" game.

What's done is done -- let him sit down, shut up, and plan out how he can recover from the damage.

If he really wants to make it up to the American People, Kerry should NOT run for President again and let someone decent get nominated.....................

Of course, that won't sit well with the news media -- they need Kerry and folks like him to have fun stuff to write about. #After all, Bush won't be around for ever (thanks God)

k9kxq

11-02-2006, 07:44 PM

Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 02 2006,08:38)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 02 2006,00:20)]Quote[/b] (KE5FRF @ Nov. 01 2006,20:51)]Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Nov. 01 2006,18:16)]Quote[/b] (w2amr @ Nov. 01 2006,17:39)]This is all the republicans have left. Their entire campaign platform is .......... Democrats will raise your taxes, Democrats hate the troops and want the terrorists to win, attack Pelosi, attack Kerry. That's it. They are licking crumbs off #the floor.
The republican part is pitiful, Kerry botches a joke and they blow it like flies on dookey, Bush fumbles and studders, lies in his speech and they cheer to the top of the mountain...

The Bush team is "stupid" for misunderstanding or were intentionally trying to exploit the situation for more support for the falling republicans...

kxq
You know, it is really sad. The dems around here acuse us "neocons" of being unthinking robots. Yet, when "their guy" is under fire, and every ounce of reason indicates he made a SERIOUS err in judgement, they still circle the wagons and hold the party line. Will you guys prove your thoughtfulness on this one and just admit he isn't worth a damn? Can we just call a spade a spade and admit that?

OK, I tell you what, lets do a fair trade.

I openly admit that Dick Cheney is a boob and a scoundrel. I agree with his policies, but I admit that he is a crook and a scumbag.

Now, can I hear one Democrat/liberal utter the truth about John Kerry? You don't even have to say you disagree with him politically.

Just this once, come on guys...Just say "I agree with Kerry politically, but this time around the guy went too far and said a very hurtful, dispicable thing. I think he needs to apologize, seriously apologize. And next time he sticks his foot in his mouth, he needs to do damage control a little quicker"

Common', would this be too hard? Or would it require too much thought?

I heard a caller on lib-radio today basically say "Yeah, dude, Kerry didn't mean it like it sounded. What he meant was that if the college kids educate themselves on Iraq, like Bush should have done, then they won't get stuck in Iraq, meaning that if Bush had educated himself on Middle East stuff, dude, then we wouldn't be in this stupid war."

HAHAHAH!!! I about wrecked my car laughing so hard. What a flippin' stretch! Just listen to what the elitist idiot said! He despises the military. He despised it in the late 60's and early 70's when he cut and ran, he has despised it his whole career, and he despises it now. He looks down his nose at people (like myself) who have served in the armed forces (and are proud of that fact). The words aren't complicated folks. They need no special context. And I fail to get the "punchline" of his botched joke.

Common, Dems, just admit it...
say the words with me...

Kerry is an idiot
one more time
Kerry is an idiot.

You can still be a Dem, you can still be against the war and hate Bush. You can still tow the party line.

But just once, call a spade a spade.
What a friggin fruit cake, they had to be hard up for recruits to let this sort in the military, is that calling a spade a spade or what!

kxq
You talking about ME or Kerry?

Kerry wasn't a "recruit", he was an officer, so am I to gather you are referring to me?
Maybe I was a little hasty in my selection of words, anyway Kerry should shut up sit dowm and stop ruining the chance for some new blood in both houses, we need a change of direction and we are not getting the representation we pay for with the present administration...

kxq

kk7ue

11-02-2006, 07:49 PM

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I will vote for the avatar....it looks more honest and intelligent than any representation we have now http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Any other takers??

KE5FRF

11-02-2006, 07:49 PM

kxq,

I understand. No problem.

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N9XR

11-02-2006, 07:51 PM

Bush Bubbles (http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/georgie.htm)

This is so much fun.

kk7ue

11-02-2006, 08:54 PM

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Your Dems George must be different from the Dems in my neck of the woods. My Dems want to leave another fall of Saigon

Yeah, we should have stayed the course #in Vietnam, got a whole lot more people killed in a dirty war that we didn't belong in to begin with. Now we should stay the course in yet another corrupt war. Good thinkin.(The problem is that the politicians run the wars, not the military. If the military did, it would have been OVER by now. Then and Now with lots less 'collateral' damage. F the politicians)

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tax the snot outta everyone left here since there are no rich except the government class,

So, you're (huh?)republican president reduced taxes to the richest Americans and is relying on a communist country to buy our debts. Sounds like a recipe for disaster. Sooner or later your taxes are gonna go up. Who is gonna pay for this debt ?? You, your children, your grandchildren
thats who. (Agreed! Its BS!!!)

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solve so-called global warming by forcing everyone in the city to ride an overpriced trolley and bicycles everywhere (does me no good whatsoever) and by publically stating that their policy is to increase gridlock 4 fold,

Really ? where did you hear this ?? (Portland's regional government, METRO - public policy)Not that there is anything wrong with building increased and improved public transportation. Even if it doesn't solve global warming what is so terrible about having slightly cleaner air. Maybe a bit less asthma, cancer, etc... How terrible. (Your butt is getting too smart-Im for the environment, just not over the top anti car like it is here. I am for responsible stewardship of the environment, not this enviro-nazi approach like it is now)

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kill more business by raising the minimum wage even higher

raising the minimum wage is not going to kill business.(it will stifle it-Im part owner in one so I know how it works) As a matter of fact it is obscene (YES)that in 10 years the minimum wage has not been increased. The cost of living has gone way up, corporate CEO's are making enormous profits(Agreed: its BS), politicians have given themselves raises yet we can't raise the stinking minimum wage a few cents, let alone a buck or two ? The politicians responsible for keeping the minimum wage so low should be ashamed of themselves. (Minimum wage is $7.85 here, even more across river in WA. Move here for a minimum wage job if thats all you're qualified for!)

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, provide socialized medicine to the illegals and screw the citizens by making them pay for it and deny them services (personal experience here)

Yeah, your doing a lot better #by getting ripped of by insurance companies and greedy drug companies that #charger several times the price #for the same #drug here than they do outside the USA(No not at all. That needs reform as well). What a horrible thing it would be to have a #decent, affordable, national health care plan that Americans can use(Already been wiped out over medical issues once, thankyou). Perish the thought that an elderly poor person should be able to get a needed operation or medical treatment #without spending the rest of his life in debt, and then passing that debt on to his children (doesnt work that way and you should know that; passing the debt anyway)as is the case presently.

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and they dont give a damn about the veterans around here one bit.

Like the republicans give a rats tail about veterans #?? Don't make me laugh. More VA hospitals and treatment centers closing down under Bush, forcing sick and disabled vets to have to travel further and further from home to reach the few overcrowded VA hospitals that are left.(Again, AGREED! Its another travesty that needs reckoning)

I THINK WE AGREE ON MORE THAN WE DISAGREE. PERHAPS IF WE UNITED AGAINST THE BRAVO SIERRA INSTEAD OF NITPICKING EACH OTHER, WE COULD CHANGE THINGS! #Wow, what a novel concept for the residents of the boards on the Zed. Anyone remember the phrase 'divide and conquer'? WTF do you think the powers that be are doing to us as a nation now? It shows on these boards that they are very successful and WE are the losers. WAKE UP supposedly mentally superior ham radio operator types! Its past time to get a grip and fix the mess. But no, all anyone here wants to do (myself included at times) is B & M and get into arguments over scattalogical references and the like. It seems so many of us on these threads are too busy pissing up a rope to notice that our shoes are all wet.

So, whatcha think about that?

I have given my responses to your specific points in the quote texts, in parenthesis, since I cant seem to get the multiple quote thing down, despite your gracious assistance with that earlier. My experience with democrats is only in the state of Oregon. Apparently democrats in other places arent as far left or whacky as they are here. A little research into Oregon Democrats and the state in general would show you how bad things have gotten with dems holding the governorship the last 24 years. Im sorry; while your points are valid and DO make a lot of sense to this independent conservative, you have no idea what it is like HERE under the democratic thumb. If you could experience it yourself, you too would be this pissed off at the dem party. All just a point of reference for you, since you seem to be one of the most level headed of the left bunch on these forums and I respect your opinion more than most.

Again, why do people always insist I am a coolaid drinking republicrat? It is insulting, but understandable since being conservative is associated with repubs. They havent been conservative since Reagan and I dont see a shift back anytime soon. Remember - INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE. The Goldwater kind in some respects, not this neowhatever crap that has come to power.

Oregon - come for the environment, go nuts over the politricks

I'd smoke a bowl to calm down if it werent for the labor regulations in my industry against that sort of thing #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #Rant mode burnt up and in for servicing - notice the end of the quotes section