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Ya do gotta wonder! On TV they showed a picture of one of the vehicles involved and it had a mess of bullet holes in it! The news called it a "gun battle".
1 dead, 1 arrested after CB radio argument at Vancouver mall
October 1, 2006
By Associated Press
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VANCOUVER, WASH. - A Vancouver man was shot to death Saturday in the parking lot of Westfield Vancouver mall following an argument over citizens band radio.
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ai4ep
10-01-2006, 05:11 PM
#++ pray for his family ++
He was a human being, too.
That's two CBer's off the air.
Rob
NV5E
Quote[/b] (NV5E @ Oct. 01 2006,17:47)]That's two CBer's off the air.
Cute.
REAL cute. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
VE7NOT
10-02-2006, 01:37 AM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 01 2006,10:11)]++ pray for his family ++
He #was a human being, too.
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ke4pjw
10-02-2006, 02:58 AM
Quote[/b] ]The two men apparently did not know each other, but got into an argument over CB radio before they met at the mall. Both men were armed, police said. The nature of the argument was not disclosed.
I've got the inside scoop. Something was said about dropping five grand on a Bird watt meter and then this was heard over the air (http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/mediaplayer.asp?ean=731458679325&z=y&track=7&disc=1) before gunshots rang out.
KD6NIG
10-02-2006, 03:41 AM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 01 2006,18:37)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 01 2006,10:11)]++ pray for his family ++
He #was a human being, too.
"Get me a Diablo Sandwich and a Dr Pepper......"
RIP Buford T.
As for the article, with the way some people get on the CB, its not surprising this didn't happen sooner, to be honest. #
Sometimes I think the fact that the level of intoxication prevents getting up except for going to the bathroom to be a lifesaver.
I have a feeling there are plenty lesser incidents that go unreported, or don't make the paper due to thier lesser severity.
Some people need to back away from the radio before it reaches this level.
ai4ep
10-02-2006, 12:40 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ...now do not go and try to tell me that amateur radio operators do not get upset at a fellow amateur , for what ever minor the reason.
WA2ZDY
10-02-2006, 02:41 PM
"both men were armed." # They were equipped with weapons but not with brains. #There's the real danger.
Quote[/b] ] Pray for their familes.
Yes, pray that their families, particularly children will not now go without adequate food, clothing, housing and healthcare because their daddy's decided shooting it out over a CB radio dispute was more important than taking care of their families.
24 years of dealing with criminals has left me jaded. It's hard to feel sorry for these two idiots who both being armed, made the conscious decision to cause mayhem. The most thankful thing? That nobody else in that shopping mall parking lot was hurt.
kb7qwz
10-02-2006, 02:43 PM
Just as a PS. The argument was about one using an echo mike to the disdain of others on the air (channel 17) and they agreed to meet at the mall and settle it. The shooter was the one reportedly with the echo mike and the shootee was reportedly also armed. It is not known if the victim drew first or even drew his weapon. Both of them however were old enough to know better.
73
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KB9YCO
10-02-2006, 03:02 PM
I posted this in the other forum but I have to say again that the same thing could happen in HF with some of the things I've heard over the years, the problem is that in most cases it's going to be a much longer drive to meet up for the big showdown.
Oy, ya get all kinds in radio, and yes, CB is still radio. Most of the people I've ever met in CB over the last 20+ years were just radio people interested in radio, but, it being pretty much the most known and most used and accessible band on this continent you get more of everyone, good and bad. I've also been listening to HF (lower than 11!) for as many years and I've heard almost as much fighting and hatred that could've resulted in just as bad of a situation if the geographical distances were different.
Funny in a sad, sick way. Certainly doesn't help what little positive image CB may have left.
ai4ep
10-02-2006, 03:19 PM
Radio IS just radio to the average citizen. When the average citizen sees you driving down the road ( or even as a passenger ) with a microphone in your hand ...most do not know the difference, even in the antennas.
What IF these two men had been licensed amateurs...of any class...or one being of one class license and the other being of another class of license ..........imagine the posts being made now IF these 2 folks had been amateurs... how amateur radio would be seen in a bad light .
But it was not, and now several lives have been forever changed, because of that one shot fired.
It happened this time in Washington ( the state )..it may happen again within 1 mile of your home next time.
K4KWH
10-02-2006, 03:28 PM
In the CB heyday, It was somewhat entertaining to listen in on CB on a "Sar'dy nite". It was not uncommon for a couple of CB rambos to "git into it"
and go riding around looking for each other. Mostly fist fights and and a couple of threatening gestures. Usually alcohol was involved in these set-to's. Nothing so deadly as now. What a waste of effort and lives. :rock:
ab9lz
10-02-2006, 03:33 PM
Alchohol, Guns, Hillbillies, all brought together by the "magic of radio"... it was a self correcting problem.
kc7jty
10-02-2006, 04:56 PM
On the Spokane, Washington news here last night a cameraman scanned the inside of the pickup of the man that was killed and there was a 2 METER RADIO under the dash tuned to 147.something.
K0RGR
10-02-2006, 06:48 PM
Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Oct. 02 2006,09:56)]On the Spokane, Washington news here last night a cameraman scanned the inside of the pickup of the man that was killed and there was a 2 METER RADIO under the dash tuned to 147.something.
I don't find anybody by that name in the FCC database, if the newspaper got it right...
There is someone with a very similar name for the shooter, but I doubt that it's the same guy...
kc7jty
10-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ Oct. 01 2006,12:48)]Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Oct. 02 2006,09:56)]On the Spokane, Washington news here last night a cameraman scanned the inside of the pickup of the man that was killed and there was a 2 METER RADIO under the dash tuned to 147.something.
I don't find anybody by that name in the FCC database, if the newspaper got it right...
There is someone with a very similar name for the shooter, but I doubt that it's the same guy...
I assumed it was the victim's pick up. Maybe it was the shooter's? I believe the pickup video taped was a large 4 door light color, like an off white.
Maybe they clipped in some footage of a radio they had in their files?
Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Oct. 02 2006,11:33)]Alchohol, Guns, Hillbillies, all brought together by the "magic of radio"... it was a self correcting problem.
Congratulations, if your specious comments were made #intending #to get a rise out of someone then you have succeeded; if you are serious then I feel badly for you, your ancestors, your offspring, the ARS and, your community .
I did not see any mention of alcohol in the story and, I thought the stereotypically derogatory term "Hillbilly" was reserved for use when referring to residents of the fourth call sign district. #I find your joke(?) in poor taste, how do you refer to Americans of African descent or the Hebrew faith?
An identical incident happened about 25 years ago in this area and one person was killed and three others went to jail for 18 years; they met in a mall parking lot to argue over radio.
In spite of the fact that two hot-heads got together over a radio dispute and a tragedy ensued I am still proud to say that I am a CBer and that most of the radio folks I identify with are "Chicken-banders".
The fact that I have a degree in Electronics, learned code, memorized some answers out of a pool of questions and get sucked into buying high priced equipment does not make me any better than the rest.
Nor, does it give anyone the "right" to make snide comments about the misfortunes of others; you deserve to have a near field lightning strike that fries all your precious appliances and your homeowners insurance rules it an act of God, that would also be a self correcting problem for the Ham community.
Quote[/b] (ke4pjw @ Oct. 01 2006,22:58)]Quote[/b] ]The two men apparently did not know each other, but got into an argument over CB radio before they met at the mall. Both men were armed, police said. The nature of the argument was not disclosed.
I've got the inside scoop. Something was said about dropping five grand on a Bird watt meter and then this was heard over the air (http://music.barnesandnoble.com/search/mediaplayer.asp?ean=731458679325&z=y&track=7&disc=1) before gunshots rang out.
BTW: Leave "Prime Minister" out of this, I know you like his music........
kb2vxa
10-03-2006, 07:39 PM
Hi again,
Never mind the "hillbillies", having lived well within CB range of Brooklyn NY why does this not surprise me? Maybe it's because pinned coax, midnight antenna parties, fights with and without weapons and drive bys before the phrase was coined were fairly commonplace. Yup, about a 10 mile radius around Broo-kleen was a war zone much resembling the south side of Chicago in an earlier time, I considered myself fortunate to live "on the Jersey side".
ab9lz
10-03-2006, 08:13 PM
Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 02 2006,16:07)]I did not see any mention of alcohol in the story and, I thought the stereotypically derogatory term "Hillbilly" was reserved for use when referring to residents of the fourth call sign district. #I find your joke(?) in poor taste, how do you refer to Americans of African descent or the Hebrew faith?
I think that you are a bit confused, hillbilly is a class designation, not a racial one. The term is usually applied to those with a crass indifference to the social norms of the societies that they live within, there are hillbillies of all races from all corners of the earth (it's not a discriminatory genre). In one of the great mysteries of human kind, although separated by thousands of miles of physical geography, they all share similar traits, namely... guns alcohol, and cb's.
No doubt, for one human to kill another is tragic, to do so in an argument over something as trivial as recreational radio (Ham CB, FRS, whatever) is incomprehensible…. As such I stand by my comment, no matter how offensive you may think it to be.
w7lpn
10-03-2006, 09:25 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 01 2006,10:11)]#++ pray for his family ++
He #was a human being, too.
Some Momma's son, maybe some kid's daddy. #We used to call 'em "Radio Rambos". They're everywhere. Luckily most are just a mouth with an amplifier, and few had guns or the wherewithall to use thyem. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I liked talking on CB for years, but stayed off 19 because of the trucker talk about finding a hooker, speed, etc. and my kids were in the car.
Quote[/b] (ab9lz @ Oct. 03 2006,16:13)]Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 02 2006,16:07)]I did not see any mention of alcohol in the story and, I thought the stereotypically derogatory term "Hillbilly" was reserved for use when referring to residents of the fourth call sign district. #I find your joke(?) in poor taste, how do you refer to Americans of African descent or the Hebrew faith?
I think that you are a bit confused, hillbilly is a class designation, not a racial one. The term is usually applied to those with a crass indifference to the social norms of the societies that they live within, there are hillbillies of all races from all corners of the earth (it's not a discriminatory genre). In one of the great mysteries of human kind, although separated by thousands of miles of physical geography, they all share similar traits, namely... guns alcohol, and cb's.
No doubt, for one human to kill another is tragic, to do so in an argument over something as trivial as recreational radio (Ham CB, FRS, whatever) is incomprehensible…. As such I stand by my comment, no matter how offensive you may think it to be.
Nope, I am not confused and, other than in schools and amateur radio, I did not realize that we have "Classes" in America #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif #
Are these "Classes/castes(?)" something that we are born into or get kicked out of; this "Class" thing, can we buy it, are there pool questions to study about it, is it inherited?
I challenge the logic of your Guns-Alcohol-CB/Hillbilly slander; no combination of alcohol, firearms and love of radio automatically equals a citizens band operator, if we looked hard enough, we would find that profile fitting a number of people reading this message.
In your haste to edify and justify you overlooked answering my question; When you are with people of your same "Class" what do you call those people of other "classes" who you stereotypically lump together?
Right-o. How can we possibly suggest that two knuckleheads who got into a lethal argument, most likely over who "had the cotton pickin' break on th' duck pluckin' channel," were anything but intelligent, civilized, law abiding, three-digit-IQ, model citizens?
Someone else said "hillbillies." I said "knuckleheads." What's the difference? What they did was profoundly stupid, and not at ALL unheard of in the annals of Chicken Band lore.
Do you endorse or condemn this behavior? You never really come out and say either way. That's a bit bothersome.
There's no stereotyping going on here. We're saying these guys were jackasses. I doubt one would be going out on a limb to agree with that statement. How say you, sir?
Break-broke.
Actually, this is the SECOND shooting in Vancouver, WA over the CB. The first one happened 1/2 mile from my house on 63rd street. #The incident occured 10 yrs and 30 days before this one. #Not really proud to say but I knew the three in the first shooting, #John ( minehaha MadMan ) shot Shawn ( WON TON ) in the back of the head with a 7MM rifle. Shawn was beating the crap out of a 3rd person when john smoked him. It was found to be a justified shooting. I know the guy who is under arrest for this shooting ( cb handle BRANDER ) in this case, but ill reserve my thoughts on him. Havnt lived in WA for 9 yrs, kinda figure the CB would be dead by now.
Anyways, i have the audio clip from 10 yrs ago on my FTP server if anyone wants to listen to it.
The clip of this recent shooting is on www.katu.com
AUDIO FILE (http://www.nfafun.com/HAM/CBCH12/Ch12SHOOT.wav)
WA2ZDY
10-04-2006, 02:50 AM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Oct. 03 2006,19:27)]Someone else said "hillbillies." I said "knuckleheads." What's the difference?
. . .
We're saying these guys were jackasses.
Like I said Steve, idiots.
kf4lne
10-04-2006, 04:18 AM
Oh well. I feel no sympathy for them. They chose to settle their arguement with firearms and someone got shot. This is not an uncommon thing, it just happened that both people had CB radios. There are a lot of other stereotypical types that shoot each other over an arguement. If you are so sensitive or insecure that you cant shrug it off and move on and have to resort to violence then you deserve what you get. Like I said, no sympathy at all for either of them.
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Oct. 03 2006,19:27)]Do you endorse or condemn this behavior? You never really come out and say either way. That's a bit bothersome.
Break-broke.
Don't be facetious; in this day and age, shootouts (with guns) are an assult on the sensibilities of dignified people. #Proper society should righteously outraged.
I was part of that radio community when one radio person was attacked by an opposing radio group.
In the "Ol days, (late 60's)" when the FCC's goal was to discourage hobby type communication the rules said that you couldn't communicate with stations outside your license #or operators whom you did not personally know and, stations were required to identify by call every 10 mins or so.
CB was self policing (with the exception of Ch. 19) in the early 70's, everyone believed in "commumity programming" and the concept of being a "10-8" CB'er. #The XYLs had a time slot set aside for them in the morning and the 44's (kids) talked after school up til the news hour. #The rest out the day belonged to "the hard ankles". #
All it took to quell bad behavior was chiding chorus of your neighbors, kinda like an un-official OOs (still happens on the "home channel" with the locals").
The CB service went to hell after 1978, too many people with no connection to the guys on the other end of the transmiter-receiver chain.
By now you are probably muttering, "What do I care about how and why CB went down hill...". #Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
WA2ZDY
10-04-2006, 01:50 PM
Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 04 2006,02:24)]Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
Unfortunately, since the mentalities are so different. One is a hobby of radio enthusiasts who are basically law abiding. The other is a hobby of chatters, many of whom have no technical interest (doesn't make them bad folks.) Those who do have the technical interest tend to be less than law abiding.
I don't condemn CB, I just find it's unfortunate that there has become a tendency to see it as the entry point to amateur radio.
That would be like having the sanitation department and the police department "linked." A sanitation man takes the civil service exam for a supervisory position and is promoted to police sergeant. (No jokes about that being an improvement, please.) That would make no sense.
KD6NIG
10-04-2006, 03:12 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Oct. 04 2006,06:50)]Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 04 2006,02:24)]Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
Unfortunately, since the mentalities are so different. #One is a hobby of radio enthusiasts who are basically law abiding. #The other is a hobby of chatters, many of whom have no technical interest (doesn't make them bad folks.) #Those who do have the technical interest tend to be less than law abiding. #
I don't condemn CB, I just find it's unfortunate that there has become a tendency to see it as the entry point to amateur radio.
That would be like having the sanitation department and the police department "linked." #A sanitation man takes the civil service exam for a supervisory position and is promoted to police sergeant. #(No jokes about that being an improvement, please.) # That would make no sense.
No sense, yes, but consider this:
Except for FRS, or little toy radios, the only other exposure a young person may get to a microphone, if they aren't exposed to the ARS by someone they know, is CB.
Because many people have them. They may not use them but to listen, but all it takes is a 'whats that' to possibly get them interested.
Now, in older times, it was one of many possible routes if someone became interested in electronics. But nowadays the internet, cellphones that do more than just act like phones, and the like are the primary audience for anyone interested in electronics.
In fact, I'd say even if someone ISN'T interested in electronics, they will still invest enough time to figure out how to get onto the internet and operate that phone.
Someone thats purely interested in picking up a microphone to communicate with someone is about our only target audience now.
So though you may not like it, I'm sorry to say it, but they probably do make up more of a majority now than they used to. We're going to have to adjust accordingly.
ab8ma
10-04-2006, 03:33 PM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 02 2006,03:41)]Sometimes I think the fact that the level of intoxication prevents getting up except for going to the bathroom to be a lifesaver.
rotflmao http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
KL1ZB
10-04-2006, 05:59 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Oct. 03 2006,07:50)]Unfortunately, since the mentalities are so different. One is a hobby of radio enthusiasts who are basically law abiding. The other is a hobby of chatters, many of whom have no technical interest (doesn't make them bad folks.) Those who do have the technical interest tend to be less than law abiding.
This so untrue on both the CB and amatuer radio side of things, talk about stereotyping.
Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 03 2006,01:24)]Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Oct. 03 2006,19:27)]Do you endorse or condemn this behavior? You never really come out and say either way. That's a bit bothersome.
Break-broke.
Don't be facetious; in this day and age, shootouts (with guns) are an assult on the sensibilities of dignified people. #Proper society should righteously outraged.
I was part of that radio community when one radio person was attacked by an opposing radio group.
In the "Ol days, (late 60's)" when the FCC's goal was to discourage hobby type communication the rules said that you couldn't communicate with stations outside your license #or operators whom you did not personally know and, stations were required to identify by call every 10 mins or so.
CB was self policing (with the exception of Ch. 19) in the early 70's, everyone believed in "commumity programming" and the concept of being a "10-8" CB'er. #The XYLs had a time slot set aside for them in the morning and the 44's (kids) talked after school up til the news hour. #The rest out the day belonged to "the hard ankles". #
All it took to quell bad behavior was chiding chorus of your neighbors, kinda like an un-official OOs (still happens on the "home channel" with the locals").
The CB service went to hell after 1978, too many people with no connection to the guys on the other end of the transmiter-receiver chain.
By now you are probably muttering, "What do I care about how and why CB went down hill...". #Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
Dood,
I was actually on CB in 1968 and 1969 right before I got my ham ticket. It was actually relatively civilized and law abiding in my area. Most of us stayed on the proper station-to-station channels, talked for no more than 5 minutes ("shot my nickel's worth"), took the required 5 minutes off, and watched our language on the air. The guys coming in from "Skipland" seemed a bit more lawless, but it was mild by today's standards.
Many of us wanted to "go legal" (that's the term we often used!) and get our ham tickets. Most of those of us at the time who went to the ham bands never looked back. It's odd that so many new hams who came over from CB still hold such a strong identification with, and allegiance to CB.
Got my ham ticket in 1970, but tried using CB for cheap and convenient mobile communication in the late 70's and again in the mid 1980's. By then it was a sewer of lids and nitwits and a complete waste of time, except for the occasional Smokey report. As I always say, I'm sure there are/were a LOT of good CB ops -- You just couldn't hear them over the dimwits.
I heard lots of on-air fights. Sounded like some were on the verge of being taken off-air. In spite of what some people want to suggest, you hardly ever hear this kind of crap on the ham bands. No stereotyping intended, but this has always BEEN kind of a "CB thing."
I guess we can draw our own conclusions, eh?
kf6rdn
10-05-2006, 02:17 AM
If two morons shoot each other over something so dumb, I think that they are CBers or gangbangers is of little relevance.
It is however darwinism at work - thinning the gene pool. Good riddance.
W5HTW
10-05-2006, 02:39 AM
Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 03 2006,23:24)]. Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
How terribly, sadly true. And it has been showing for a couple of decades now.
Ed
kf4vgx
10-05-2006, 02:47 AM
Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Oct. 03 2006,20:17)]If two morons shoot each other over something so dumb, I think that they are CBers or gangbangers is of little relevance.
It is however darwinism at work - thinning the gene pool. #Good riddance.
This mans opinion has merit http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .
It's the gang bangers comment I'll have to look up in the webster's dictionary
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif .
KL1ZB
10-05-2006, 04:55 AM
How else do you execpt people to learn?
I went to a class to before taking technician license test and it was great but it was all basic theory. They didn't even show anyone how to solder a PL259 to coax, they didn't walk around and discuss the best way to mount an antenna to a house or how to build a tower.
Its much easier to make mistakes on a 100 dollar throw away radio and a cheap antenna, plus when you make a mistake you don't have to deal with people that you look up to telling you are stupid and don't know what you are doing and on top of that worrying that the FCC may pull your license or fine you.
For better or worse CB is a good place to learn the basics.
VE7NOT
10-05-2006, 06:39 AM
Quote[/b] (KL1ZB @ Oct. 04 2006,21:55)]For better or worse CB is a good place to learn the basics.
Need I say this again:
11m ssb is used by hams out here for ragchewing at night. Why?
A few reasons:
This way we have a good idea when 10 is open.
11m SSB is COMPLETLY different from am cb and Uses common or ham lingo.
There are non hams on there. And as pointed out this is a nice basic area to experiment. Half vhf/half hf.
We have had 2 new hams in the last year come in from 11m. One even wants to take the code test even though its not needed.
kc7jty
10-05-2006, 07:17 AM
Quote[/b] (VE7NOT @ Oct. 04 2006,00:39)]#One even wants to take the code test even though its not needed.
Send him down here. It's still needed in the states. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
K0HWY
10-05-2006, 09:51 AM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Oct. 04 2006,06:50)]Quote[/b] (KB8ANN @ Oct. 04 2006,02:24)]Well, CB is the primary gateway to Amateur Radio.
Unfortunately, since the mentalities are so different. #One is a hobby of radio enthusiasts who are basically law abiding. #The other is a hobby of chatters, many of whom have no technical interest (doesn't make them bad folks.) #Those who do have the technical interest tend to be less than law abiding. #
I don't condemn CB, I just find it's unfortunate that there has become a tendency to see it as the entry point to amateur radio.
The mentalities were different.
I'm not that old (39) and I've not been in amateur radio that long (20 years) but I can still remember the days when the two meter amateur band didn't sound like a VHF CB. I've tried to remain open minded but it seems to me that within the past 10 years, the technical enthusiasm in amateur radio has declined drastically. In an effort to keep our numbers up, we (the amateur radio community) have inadvertently brought this situation upon ourselves.
I was 19 when I became licensed as a Novice in 1986. Like many others here, I had tinkered with CB before becoming a ham but I was made well aware that amateur radio was not an advanced form of CB. Later, I went on to get my Tech. As I said before, I try to be open minded but let's face it, we have lowered our standards and the results are predictable. Now, we're just going to have to deal with it. The thing that amazes me is, we see what lowering the bar has brought us yet we seek to bring it down even further.
On that note, I'm planning on going for my General Class this weekend. You know, I worked really hard to get 13 wpm. I even worked a little cushion in there and got up to 15... and then, they practically eliminated the code from amateur radio. I'm a little pizzed over that but I do feel a sense of pride in having become fairly proficient with code.
One more ramble before I stop. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #I wonder what became of the fellah who helped get me started. I can't remember his call but his name was Larry Pierson <sp?>. I tried looking him up in the database but couldn't find anything. Perhaps "Larry" was a nickname or something. Before becoming an electronics instructor at the local community college here in NC, he had served as a state trooper in the state of Washington. Super nice fellah.
UPDATE: I think I've located Mr. Pierson. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
KC9GUZ
10-06-2006, 02:24 AM
I went from CB radio to ham radio after 15 years of the CB thing. I guess if that makes me a bad person so be it. I pretty much got the radio bug from being a CBer. If it wasnt for CB i NEVER would have gotten my ham ticket.
I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
Maybe one of the ops welfare checks was bigger than the other guys??? HIHI!
kb7qwz
10-06-2006, 03:03 PM
UPDATE! according the the news, the shooter has been released and charges dropped for now. He emptied his gun into the truck of the other person from outside and is now claiming self defense. According to the news reports the shooter has a lengthly contact sheet with authorities and his neighborhood is up in arms from all the garbage he is putting out over the radio. See the newspaper article in the OREGONIAN for Oregon or COLUMBIAN for Vancouver. He even told the news channel people to get away from him when he walked out of the jail, and if looks could kill there would be some dead reporters.
Dave http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
N5KRC
10-06-2006, 03:05 PM
Quote[/b] (KC9GUZ @ Oct. 05 2006,09:24)]I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
An echo-mic, apparently.
Scott, N5KRC
Quote[/b] (N5KRC @ Oct. 06 2006,08:05)]Quote[/b] (KC9GUZ @ Oct. 05 2006,09:24)]I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
An echo-mic, apparently.
Scott, N5KRC
Fighting over which one will be the first to take the No Code General test...
kc7jty
10-06-2006, 04:44 PM
Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Oct. 05 2006,10:38)]Quote[/b] (N5KRC @ Oct. 06 2006,08:05)]Quote[/b] (KC9GUZ @ Oct. 05 2006,09:24)]I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
An echo-mic, apparently.
Scott, N5KRC
Fighting over which one will be the first to take the No Code General test...
you mean the no code extra don't you?
Quote[/b] (KC9GUZ @ Oct. 05 2006,21:24)]I went from CB radio to ham radio after 15 years of the CB thing. I guess if that makes me a bad person so be it. I pretty much got the radio bug from being a CBer. If it wasnt for CB i NEVER would have gotten my ham ticket.
I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
Maybe one of the ops welfare checks was bigger than the other guys??? HIHI!
Personally I don't think anything is wrong with CB radio itself.
But if you are ignorant and stick to the CB mindset after you've decided to become a ham, expect to get laughed at or scoffed at for the very least.
What do I mean by the CB mindset?
What I mean is distorted echo chambers, roger beeps, speaking in a false sounding "radioese" on air, illegal amps that put out a dirty signal. Etc etc.
KL1ZB
10-06-2006, 10:10 PM
Quote[/b] (N5KRC @ Oct. 05 2006,09:05)]Quote[/b] (KC9GUZ @ Oct. 05 2006,09:24)]I wonder what the guys were fighting over?
An echo-mic, apparently.
Scott, N5KRC
From reading posts on this site, thats what some people want to see for our bands.
You get a knock on the door at 1 am, its an OO with a gun because you were 25 seconds late on your check-in on the last net.
or
I'm sorry, you were off freq. on you last transmission. Do you want 2 in the chest or one in the head?
WA2ZDY
10-07-2006, 12:32 AM
http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/10052006news64963.cfm
M3KCK
10-07-2006, 12:41 AM
You mean that Yaesu & Kenwood ect sell Amateur Radios with Roger Bleeps in the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
The Only sad thing about Amateur Radio is the Bigots,
Know code or don’t know code? (However, that could be an American thing?)
Class of Licence ect....
I was licensed before you ect....
My exam was harder than your’s ect....
Blah, Blah, bloody Blah http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
In addition, as far as I know it has Always been the same http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
Although our 2m does Not resemble CB, we sure do have the Bigots!!
es 73
Regards,
Andrew M3KCK
Quote[/b] (M3KCK @ Oct. 06 2006,19:41)]You mean that Yaesu & Kenwood ect sell Amateur Radios with Roger Bleeps in the USA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
No, but Cobra does.
ai4ep
10-07-2006, 12:54 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Gee, who would have ever thunk of it ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Angry words on a CB radio ?
Was any one there...did they see it ?
Did any of you folks HEAR the words spoken over the airwaves ?
ai4ep
10-07-2006, 12:58 AM
...a " roger bleep " button is just like a CW key on a HF rig ( or even a multi - mode 2 meter rig )...it does NOT " have " to be used, but it IS there...in case it IS needed / desired.
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Look Ethel --- a full moon outside !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
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M3KCK
10-07-2006, 01:08 AM
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Oct. 07 2006,01:54)]Quote[/b] (M3KCK @ Oct. 06 2006,19:41)]You mean that Yaesu & Kenwood ect sell Amateur Radios with Roger Bleeps in the USA #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
No, but Cobra does.
Thank God for that.
The Only CBers on 11m in the U.K are Radio Amateurs!!
And I am not sure that they would use their Roger Bleeps on 10m http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
And they proberly don’t use a CB?
The Legal CB band is Dead over here so we don’t have any problems, But I can tell you that many Amateurs here once used CB and I mean young & old alike regardless of what Licence they may hold now?
And the ironic thing is that most of the Bigots on 2m are ex-CBers,
es 73
Regards,
Andrew M3KCK
ai4ep
10-07-2006, 01:57 AM
...some local 2 meter repeaters have more truck drivers on them than folks who have other kinds of job....24/7.
Not as an insult, just the basic fact.
KC9GUZ
10-07-2006, 02:26 AM
Quote[/b] (KD6NIG @ Oct. 01 2006,20:41)]"Get me a Diablo Sandwich and a Dr Pepper......"
RIP Buford T.
What exactly is a Diablo sandwich?
WA2ZDY
10-07-2006, 03:21 PM
Disregard, I was thinking of the wrong movie.
There are a few words in the link maybe you don't want your kids to read, but they were on TV with the movie, so here goes:
http://www.garnersclassics.com/qsmokey.htm
kc7jty
10-07-2006, 05:53 PM
Quote[/b] (AG4YO @ Oct. 05 2006,13:39)]Any Questions?
Yes, I can see a close match in appearance with you and the guy (Roy) on the left.
KC9GUZ
10-07-2006, 06:37 PM
Quote[/b] (WA2ZDY @ Oct. 07 2006,08:21)]Disregard, I was thinking of the wrong movie.
There are a few words in the link maybe you don't want your kids to read, but they were on TV with the movie, so here goes:
http://www.garnersclassics.com/qsmokey.htm
TY for the movie link. I added it to my faves category for movies.