Gunslinging CBers

[w5mlr]

Click on this here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061001/ap_on_re_us/mall_shooting_1

[KF0RT]

Natural selection claims another one?

73, Rob

[W4HAY]

Chloroxing the CB gene pool! (http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2006Oct01/0,4670,MallShooting,00.html)

[N4CYA]

I saw that reading up on a another website im a member of you'll be suprised what you here on the 11 meter band some good/bad thing's back and forth to cb radio operator's when I lived down in Padre Island Texas one night I was helping out this guy getting direction's to Rockport Texas from Padre Island so I did, next thing I knew it a local base station dude keyed up saying im coming to get you vato saying in that spanish expression, this guy has been known to threat people over the air waves, same with his friend but the guy mention his threat with a shotgun? So I called the local police department and filed a complaint and didnt hear anything back from the detectives whats so ever. I didnt really care for talking much on the air wave's anyway's because of the spanish lingo truck drivers that drived around the area I was in, when I spoke on the air they try to key over me, like throw a silent dead key? then they started saying cuss words in spanish directed towards me. But I just ignored they're ignorant. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[W7WV]

Dumber things have been known to happen.

[w3sy]

Quote from the article:


Quote[/b] ]The two men apparently did not know each other, but got into an argument over CB radio before they met at the mall. Both men were armed, police said. The nature of the argument was not disclosed.

Wal, I guess tha duckplucka didn't git no doggone BREAK onna cotton pickin' channel, by golly. Said that tha cotton pickers didn't KNOW each other, so there was no doggone way to know where to go to put a PIN thru his cokes. So tha only thang LEFT to do was start shootin', ah reckon. Mercy sakes. Iffn the channel master don't give ya tha doggone break, y'all ain't gonna GIT no doggone break, by golly. Ain't no duck pluckin' cotton pickers gonna git the break unless tha channel master GIVE 'em tha break. Mercy -- Ain't NEVER shoulda give 'em tha radiddio inna FIRST place.....

[w5klb]

Two more nominees for the Darwin Award.

[kk7ue]

Happened a few years back too. Same sort of stuff precipitated a similar result then. Its just not safe to be a good buddy in the Portland/Vancouver C & B scene any more. (a cotton pickin shame on the mess) #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif #Have there been any documented ham on ham shootings I wonder? I doubt it. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KB9YCO]

I hear the same types of conversations in HF, mostly 40 & 80 meter phone (You SOB, I'll kill you, F you, die you dumb *&$%#), it's just harder to drive 500 miles to shoot somebody.

It's all radio folks, take the good with the bad, and there's plenty of both in CB and amateur radio. I've heard it all in more than 20 years in CB, and just as many listening to all the amateur bands, it's nothing new and it's sadly not exclusive to any one band. But, to be fair, it seems like CB being a bit more accessible to the average person does attract some of the less thinking crowd; and let us not forget that it is still the most used band in this country and therefore the odds of weirdness increase in ratio with the fact that there is just more of every type out there.
Wackos, wherever you go these days.

[KB9YCO]

Additional:
for those of you that claim that the 'old days of CB' were the best (certainly there was less people and thusly less wackiness but...), here's a funny little snippet or two showing how some things never change. Heheheh, funny stuff.

CB arguments recordings (http://www.retrocom.com/retromilw/retrocbtape.htm)

[KC9ECI]

This kind of thing isn't limited to just CB either. Back in the day, I used to run a BBS, and occasionally, the area sysops would get together and have an eating somewhere and discuss issues of concern to sysops. I stopped off at my friends house to pick him up. He had a pistol laying out by his keyboard. I asked him what was up and he had explained that he had been getting threats made against himself and his wife by people unknown that didn't like the way he ran his BBS.

The gene pool could use a little more chlorine.

[kc7jty]

this is a reflection of who we are as a people, the CB has little to do with it. Just like road rage that causes injury and loss of life every year in the home of the brave.

[KA9VQF]

This antisocial activity has indeed been around for along time and is not designated to only the CB crowd.

Like ECI said. Way back when first I was using my Vic 20 and homebrewed modem to get on our local BBS there were flame wars all the time. I’m pretty sure that the fellows involved did not realize that their messages were not seen just by the individual they were having their flame war with.

Anyone who happened to log on to the BBS could read what was there. There were no PM’s at the time. I don’t think the technology existed at the time and I’m sure the fellow hosting the BBS did not have the hardware for it.

About the only PM you could get would have been to dial direct to the other persons computer and hope it picked up the phone before a person did. Then you could go machine to machine I suppose.

Although no deaths were attributed to the mess, the involved parties did get together and duke it out on numerous occasions. This most always resulted in one or the other, sometimes both, going to the hospital then both going to find out what the county was having for breakfast.

Spitting sparks back and forth on the CB was common back then too. It is really rare to hear someone using one these days to just talk about things in general around here.

The most common stuff is a trucker looking for a business he has to drop something off at or sometimes asking directions and about road construction.

But for the most part its someone burping, farting, or just making noise. I think that due to the proliferation of cell phones the use of CB at least locally has seen a real sharp decline in use.

Now FRS and GMRS radios have become so prevalent that you will generally hear the same stuff that had been on the CB, it just doesn’t carry as far.

There is a state park just north of town here. Most any weekend through the summer you will hear a lot of people on the little radios.

Some are just trying to communicate with family members but there are others who delight in disrupting these communications. They burp, fart, play music, send dead carriers, make noises, send every ‘roger beep’ the rig is capable of, and generally make a total ass of themselves.

Sure GMRS is supposed to be licensed and the users are supposed to be self governing and self policing but face it anyone can go to Wal-mart and buy a blister pack of two radios, give them to the kids, and let them go wild till the batteries die then charge them up or replace the batteries so they will go do it again.

Its just another baby sitter for most of these people. Gives them more time to drink and watch the game or whatever.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

Ham radio is a bit like the old CB, license required.
GMRS is getting the way CB is now.
In Houston we have a old community repeater for GMRS.
To get on, you must send 2 CTCSS tones.
There is an autopatch, connected to an internal intercom, to stay within the rules, people have been known to make threats as they are told that they can not call the XYL or whatever.

[ke7imb]

Gives a whole new meaning of Radio Rambo.

[w8cbc]

Any bets on the both of them being rabid NRA members? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[nq6v]

When I was a teen, I had a 100mw handi talkie on the local popular c.b. channel. I could get a few local guys runnng multi channel tube type base stations.I was always putt off. Then when I got my novice, my rig had 11 meters on it. (Viking Challanger) and a socket in front for inserting a vfo or crystals. I got a handful of c.b. crystals for the channels the locals used, an old p.a. mike and was on the air with 65 watts on 11. I gave all the locals such a bad time, for the 100mv kid was now the 65 watt monster.A few others wanted to know how to get on the ham bands.

In any group, the ignorant who need to play bully to the ones who do not stand to the challange, (I am over 50, and even I needed to be a bully as an auxillary cop and as a security guard and business owner), I still do not see the need to bully for the sake of it. There are always those who need to bully and fight, to be the alpha male of a group.

I have had to display deadly force too many times, and I get no feeling of satification from it. I am told that since I choose to not engage in such activities, I am not a worthwile individual. But the prisons and graveyards are full of worthwhile people, according to their logic.

The laws pretty much say there are two reasons deadly force would be justified. To defend life and property. Also the law allows three ways a person may conduct themselves when faced with a deadly threat. They may(yes, they may, and do not let anyone tell you otherwise. It works.) run away. They may stand their lawful ground.(If breaking a law when the threat occurs, forget this one. Run away.) They may pursue to effect an arrest. The last is usually the platform the N.R.A. uses to promote anti- gun control laws, but when the bad guys are gone, let them go. Not always pratical. They may have a gun in a nearby place and choose to retrive it to play alpha male. But who they injure after they leave you is not your responsibility.So to pursue to make an arrest is not always a sound decision.But sometimes it is.

[KB9YCO]

Quote[/b] ]Sure GMRS is supposed to be licensed and the users are supposed to be self governing and self policing but face it anyone can go to Wal-mart and buy a blister pack of two radios, give them to the kids, and let them go wild till the batteries die then charge them up or replace the batteries so they will go do it again.
The only advantage there is that most licensed GMRS users have is that they can easily omit half-watt and two-watt radios (how long you think it does two watts with triple A batteries?), or if you run into the disruptive kind, just talk over the top of them easily with a 50 watt repeater on GMRS frequencies, or the allowed 5 watts PEP (with a real radio and antenna) on FRS frequencies for GMRS licensees. Though I would agree it's gotten a little messy with the advent of the little junky 'bubble-pack' radios, for the most part, anyone with a real system can easily ignore it.
I certainly don't justify people improperly using their little radios, but for the most part it's really not a big deal, not to mention it's hard to get someone to pay $75 for a license when the radio costs $20. While I still maintain my GMRS privileges (though I don't get to use it much anymore) I don't know that the license cost itself is justifiable. I do think it's smart to maintain good numbers of people licensed for the band on the books though in order to somewhat protect it from other interests.

[w8cbc]

Quote[/b] ]...half-watt...

I initially read that as "half-wit".

And lo, a new phrase was born.

Half-wit radios.

For FRS it is officially over. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[w3sy]

Quote[/b] (KC9ECI @ Sep. 30 2006,12:08)]This kind of thing isn't limited to just CB either. #Back in the day, I used to run a BBS, and occasionally, the area sysops would get together and have an eating somewhere and discuss issues of concern to sysops. #I stopped off at my friends house to pick him up. #He had a pistol laying out by his keyboard. #I asked him what was up and he had explained that he had been getting threats made against himself and his wife by people unknown that didn't like the way he ran his BBS.

The gene pool could use a little more chlorine.
What the hell was he gonna do, shoot the screen if the guy came online??

[n4sva]

Now if the same eradication would just take place on 14.275

[ka3trx]

Did they hold their weapons upside down?

[kc7jty]

On the Spokane, Washington news here last night a cameraman scanned the inside of the pickup of the man that was killed and there was a 2 METER RADIO under the dash tuned to 147.something.