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Give them a big chunk of Nevada. It would only cost $1 Trillion dollars. But in the long run, it might be worth it! No, I'm not anti semetic (they have suffered enough) but if one thinks about it, it would alleviate a lot of problems with the Arab world and the Israelis would contribute untold good to our society. What the heck... everybody else is coming in.
kb9rqz
09-30-2006, 10:26 PM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 29 2006,15:56)]Give them a big chunk of Nevada. It would only cost $1 Trillion dollars. But in the long run, it might be worth it! No, I'm not anti semetic (they have suffered enough) but if one thinks about it, it would alleviate a lot of problems with the Arab world and the Israelis would contribute untold good to our society. What the heck... everybody else is coming in.
many of them are there becuas ethey feel it the land promised by god the rest want a state where Jews are in controll feeling that will some how prevent another holocost
but no way most of them are ever going to move from Isreal
In a word, no.
It won't be the same.
They aren't just fighting over land. They are fighting over that piece of land. That piece of land has significance for at least three major religions - Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
And if you think that moving Israel here is going to stop terrorism, why not bid on my ebay auction for a bridge in not so bad condition, about 30 miles east of here?
n7rjd
09-30-2006, 10:57 PM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 30 2006,08:56)]Give them a big chunk of Nevada.
Too much of a gamble. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 30 2006,16:43)]In a word, no.
It won't be the same.
They aren't just fighting over land. #They are fighting over that piece of land. #That piece of land has significance for at least three major religions - Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
And if you think that moving Israel here is going to stop terrorism, why not bid on my ebay auction for a bridge in not so bad condition, about 30 miles east of here?
I know it's THAT piece of land. But is it worth it in the long run? It's never going to end... and in the end there will be nothing but continuous death, destruction and misery. (Please MOSSAD, don't come knockin' at my door).
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 29 2006,16:56)]Give them a big chunk of Nevada. It would only cost $1 Trillion dollars. But in the long run, it might be worth it! No, I'm not anti semetic (they have suffered enough) but if one thinks about it, it would alleviate a lot of problems with the Arab world and the Israelis would contribute untold good to our society. What the heck... everybody else is coming in.
What do you call New York City?
W3MIV
10-01-2006, 12:08 AM
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Sep. 30 2006,20:02)]Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 29 2006,16:56)]Give them a big chunk of Nevada. It would only cost $1 Trillion dollars. But in the long run, it might be worth it! No, I'm not anti semetic (they have suffered enough) but if one thinks about it, it would alleviate a lot of problems with the Arab world and the Israelis would contribute untold good to our society. What the heck... everybody else is coming in.
What do you call New York City?
"Tomorrow in Vegas?"
Nah, it'll never fly!
On the other hand, the great Rev'un Jackson called NYC "Hymietown."
Took almost no heat for that.
Odd how that works.
w5klb
10-01-2006, 12:17 AM
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 30 2006,15:43)]...why not bid on my ebay auction for a bridge in not so bad condition, about 30 miles east of here?
Uh oh... competition.
kb9rqz
10-01-2006, 02:31 AM
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 29 2006,17:05)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 30 2006,16:43)]In a word, no.
It won't be the same.
They aren't just fighting over land. #They are fighting over that piece of land. #That piece of land has significance for at least three major religions - Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
And if you think that moving Israel here is going to stop terrorism, why not bid on my ebay auction for a bridge in not so bad condition, about 30 miles east of here?
I know it's THAT piece of land. But is it worth it in the long run? It's never going to end... and in the end there will be nothing but continuous death, destruction and misery. (Please MOSSAD, don't come knockin' at my door).
to me obviously not
while I am jew I am not a zionist
but to those thatb live there well
Dood, did you know that the letters in your suffix can be rearranged to spell QRZ?? Whoa... awesome....
Reminds me of the argument as to why other Muslim nations do not take in the Palestinians.
It would be easy for one or two of the oil rich nations to build a couple cities for them. Move them in, build some roads, cities, help them settle in, etc..
Even if either the Jews or Muslims moved out of the region, terrorism would continue.
It is not about land, that is just an excuse. If the Jews were moved out, the various islamic sects would start to kill each other.
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 30 2006,08:56)]Give
You can't discuss Israel without this word.
Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Sep. 30 2006,20:15)]On the other hand, the great Rev'un Jackson called NYC "Hymietown."
Took almost no heat for that.
Odd how that works.
The best part about that was I was sitting with my friend at work when he said that. He was black and his name was Hymie. I just looked at him and said, "He must mean you."
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Quote[/b] (al2n @ Oct. 01 2006,04:46)]Even if either the Jews or Muslims moved out of the region, terrorism would continue.
It is not about land, that is just an excuse. #If the Jews were moved out, the various islamic sects would start to kill each other.
Bingo!
And not just each other, they will still target us as well.
W2ILP
10-01-2006, 04:53 PM
Why not move Israel here?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
I thought that they did that a long time ago. First to Delancy Street in down town Manhattan, NY and then to significant parts of The Bonx, NY and Brooklyn, NY. This was then recognized by the Rabbis as the promised land.....Unfortunately the Zionists were not satisfied with sharing the U.S. with the other folks who had established what was basically a Christian nation...Nope... They wanted a nation of their own so that they could gain the right to cause minorities in that nation to suffer prejudices that they had assumed rightfully or incorrectly that they had themselves suffered all over the world where they were minorities. Such hypocritical inhumanity!
w2ilp (I'm Loyally Patriotic)...This is my own ...my native land... "Israel" (jewish culture) has come to be a part of it here, as Jews have settled in the U.S. and came to stay in large numbers...and if the Jews aren't satisfied with the opportunities that this nation has bestowed on them and want to promote its government to fight for a Holy Land in an Arab region, I will never join with them.
I am an American atheist. I fly the flag of the USA...but not the world's legacy of aggressive superstitious mythology.
ka5piu
10-02-2006, 04:18 AM
Hello.
The trouble with the idea of "giving" the Jews part of any country is that a nation within a nation does not work, ask Native Americans.
The US was, at least in part, at fault for the holocaust.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_St._Louis
The trouble with Palestine, likewise, a nation of Arabic culture.
The european nations held the Jewish refugees, not wanting to return the property to them, took from the Arabs land to create this new nation.
After the fall of the communists and Germany reunified, nearly 3 million documents were made public that the Nazis
had created.
This is still being sorted but shows how much the Catholic Church and the Swiss were involved.
So, there is no easy answer.
And, there are only 3 sacred places in Islam, one is in Jerusalem.
W2ILP
10-02-2006, 01:10 PM
There is an assumption that all of the 973 passengers of the St. Louis were returned to Germany, but records show that 297 went to Great Brittan, 224 to France and 181 to the Netherlands. #The remaining 281 are un accounted for. #We do not know if they died in concentration camps or if they escaped to go elsewhere. #We can not be sure that the ones who went to France and Holland were not taken to concentration camps by the Germans either....but the fact remains that FDR tried to get them settled in nations other than Germany, through foreign ambassadors and the State Department.
Immigration quotas had been established during the Great Depression, in order to save the jobs for American citizens. #We are now seeing many Americans who want to restrict immigration from Mexico, Latin America and Asia. #We can not blame them for their opinions. #It is true that except for Native American Indians all of our ancestors were at one time immigrants...but in my opinion there should be limits. #Just because opportunities are greater here than in Mexico or Korea, does not mean that the U.S. should continue to be a melting pot that levels the worlds's economic field. #There are many considerations to be taken on the subject of immigration. #In my opinion, there must be limits. #In my opinion if there are jobs that Americans don't want to do then an investment in robotics that can do the job with little or no human labor involved is eventually the way to go. #If the U.S. can not make use of technology and depends solely on human labor...then what will engineers be worth?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
When Eli Whitney invented the cotten gin...he eliminated the need for some of the slave labor that had picked the seeds out of the cotton. #We need to invent in machines to pluck chickens , filet fish, skin cattle, etc. #If investments are made in that direction, there will only be a need for semi-skilled technicians who can run and service the robotic machines...and they will be worth more than the minimum wage because they will be more productive than unskilled immigrant laborers. #
# China is now being run by people with engineering degrees. #They plan to increase their GNP not by using their readily available low cost labor...but by investing in modern robotic machinery , which they will manufacture for their own use. #The real GDP of the U.S. is decreasing. #Cheap immigrant labor will not help much...but large scale automation...which had made initial industrial progress in the U.S. in the past should be #promoted to a greater extent than it is being promoted at present. #The NIMBYs who don't want more steel mills or industries in the USA are only fooling themselves.
Global warming won't keep people from freezing winters, when they are out of work and can no longer pay for heating fuel.
w2ilp (Immigrants Lack Productivity)...of the kinds that previous immigration and innovation had helped to develop. # There once was a Ford in your future...but now you prefer a Toyota....Will our future cars come from China?...Will they be competitive as the result of cheap Chinese labor, higher uniform quality and/or more efficient Chinese engineering?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
K0RGR
10-02-2006, 03:14 PM
I don't think moving Israel is practical, but moving the Palestinians might be. I also think there are more attractive places than Nevada that could be had cheaply.
It's not the U.S. but the U.N. that should do this. The U.N. declared the existence of Israel, and created this never-ending battle.
As for the holy sites in Jerusalem, the only answer is to make Jerusalem an International CIty of Peace under the jurisdiction of the U.N. , with the holy sites protected from vandals and terrorists while being open to all worshippers. Don't forget that Christians have more than a slight interest in Jerusalem, too. It should be a demilitarized zone.
W2ILP
10-03-2006, 11:00 AM
The future of Israel is grim...not because of wars with Muslims...but because of the shrinking Dead Sea, and Jordan River. It is predicted that water, not oil, will eventually be too scarce to provide for the human population. Israel has been able to desalinize enough water for its population...but the water available is depleting rapidly. In spite of this Israel is still asking for more Jewish people to settle there and encouraging a high birth rate, especially among the Hassidm. The Jordan River is receding and there is no way to recover water that is evaporated only to rain down elsewhere.
Geologists tell us that the Holy Land is destined to be holey with dry sink holes...and the oasis of Israel will eventually be reclaimed by desert. I don't believe in the Biblical legend of Sodam and Gommora...but it is clear to see that there were once earthquakes and fire that destroyed cities there, and left sulphur balls and brim stones.
Some scientists fear that the world will eventually become over populated and there will be shortages of food and water. Even with or without wars to kill off people the problem of overpopulation looms as a threat to limited natural expansion. We can not populate the rain forests.
For future human survival...maybe humans need not be so fruitful.
w2ilp (Intelligently Limit Population)....because you can't get water out of rocks.
WA3KYY
10-04-2006, 02:45 AM
Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Oct. 03 2006,06:00)]The future of Israel is grim...not because of wars with Muslims...but because of the shrinking Dead Sea, and Jordan River. #It is predicted that water, not oil, will eventually be too scarce to provide for the human population. #
This is already a very serious problem in the West Bank where wells have levels of salination well in excess of World Health Organization guidelines for drinkable water. As more and more fresh water is withdrawn from the wells, salt water further infiltrates the aquifer. I read an estimate that in less than 20 years there may not be any drinkable ground water in the West Bank and desalination plants will not be able to supply the needs of the expected population. The rest of Israel is only a little better off and may be able to go for 50 years unless a solution is found.
Mike WA3KYY
Quote[/b] (WA3KYY @ Oct. 03 2006,13:45)]Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Oct. 03 2006,06:00)]The future of Israel is grim...not because of wars with Muslims...but because of the shrinking Dead Sea, and Jordan River. It is predicted that water, not oil, will eventually be too scarce to provide for the human population.
This is already a very serious problem in the West Bank where wells have levels of salination well in excess of World Health Organization guidelines for drinkable water. As more and more fresh water is withdrawn from the wells, salt water further infiltrates the aquifer. I read an estimate that in less than 20 years there may not be any drinkable ground water in the West Bank and desalination plants will not be able to supply the needs of the expected population. The rest of Israel is only a little better off and may be able to go for 50 years unless a solution is found.
Mike WA3KYY
Wow. Someone else realizes there are other problems in Israel.
Thanks for this post.
Quote[/b] (K9QJ @ Sep. 30 2006,18:05)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 30 2006,16:43)]In a word, no.
It won't be the same.
They aren't just fighting over land. #They are fighting over that piece of land. #That piece of land has significance for at least three major religions - Christianity, Judaism and Islam.
And if you think that moving Israel here is going to stop terrorism, why not bid on my ebay auction for a bridge in not so bad condition, about 30 miles east of here?
I know it's THAT piece of land. But is it worth it in the long run? It's never going to end... and in the end there will be nothing but continuous death, destruction and misery. (Please MOSSAD, don't come knockin' at my door).
And do you think they really care?
No they don't. So they'll just refuse the offer and keep on fighting.
They want that piece of land because as stupid as it sounds, both sides think that their God gave it exclusively to them.
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ Oct. 02 2006,10:14)]I don't think moving Israel is practical, but moving the Palestinians might be. #I also think there are more attractive places than Nevada that could be had cheaply.
It's not the U.S. but the U.N. that should do this. The U.N. declared the existence of Israel, and created this never-ending battle.
As for the holy sites in Jerusalem, #the only answer is to make Jerusalem an International CIty of Peace under the jurisdiction of the U.N. , with the holy sites protected from vandals and terrorists while being open to all worshippers. #Don't forget that Christians have more than a slight interest in Jerusalem, too. #It should be a demilitarized zone.
I don't know where you get the idea that the palestinians are the problem.
The palestinians are not the problem!
They are an excuse used by the arab world to try to get rid of the jews.
If the palestinians were any sort of problem why aren't arab countries opening their arms and welcoming them?