.WHY THE DEMS CAN'T BE RETURNED TO POWER

[K3XR]

This story is beyond political correctness run amok, and should anger every American. #Thanks to years of political correctness from the LIBS this is were we find oursleves today. #This puts our troops in grave danger and has got to be very demoralizing.

http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/taliban_gets_bury_lucky_worldnews_ian_bishop.htm)

[N2RJ]

I don't get it. What do the democrats have to do with the rules of engagement?

[KC2PBJ]

Political correctness, regardless of political party affiliation, has caused more military deaths than the so-called "enemy". #Remember the lessons of Viet Nam where politics as usual tore our nation apart? #Both parties have blood on their hands and the lessons of history are still being ignored - to the detriment of our nation and in the blood of our military personnel in a no-win engagement.

[nx6d]

This story angers me, because people of YOUR persuasion would be the FIRST to scream ANIMALS! if someone attacked a US funeral procession.

This isn't your beloved "PC" at work. Get a grip.

Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA

[N9XR]

There are those who live by the rules, and those who decide they don't live by the rules.

But I was not aware that Bush and Rumsfeld, the deciders in the military chain of command, were liberal Democrats.

Learn new things every day.

Thanks for the article Dan. Our IQ's drops each time you post.

[W0MT]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 14 2006,07:40)]This story is beyond political correctness run amok, and should anger every American. #Thanks to years of political correctness from the LIBS this is were we find oursleves today. #This puts our troops in grave danger and has got to be very demoralizing.

http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/taliban_gets_bury_lucky_worldnews_ian_bishop.htm)
What puts our troops in grave danger is sending them off to invade countries in the middle east. BTW, the death toll of US service personnel in the Afganistan and Iraq is about the same as the lives lost in 9/11. Throw in all of the women and children we have killed there and Bush's invasion has killed far more than the 9/11 terrorists.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

Vietnam does not come close to the insanity that is Iraq.
We (US) are in Iraq, why?
To rebuild Iraq? or to kill everybody who stands in the way of the oil?
If we are to help rebuild Iraq, it would make more sense to let the Arab nations do this, they have the resources to do this, after all, they built it to begin with.
As it stands, the Iraqi people hate Americans with every passing day, and it is not going to change.
The solution?
Like Vietnam, pull out.
It is what the Iraqi people want.
It is what the Arab people want
It is what the American people want.

[ka5piu]

Hello.

And, the US can not attack a funeral or Mosque, to do so is in direct violation of the Koran, and they know it.
To do so would mean any level of support in the middle east would end.
Israeli executed the last officer who ordered attack of funeral in Palistine, as this also violates the Torah, not to mention that it is a war crime.
Go to a US burial ground, you will notice the secuity that is in effect? nothing.
You can enter every national cemetery in the nation, including arlington, without any trouble.
It is that way around the globe.

[KA8DKT]

This is just more Rush Limbaugh / Fox bullsh*t.
I know you believe everything they say. You need to get a dose of reality.
-gary

[K6BBC]

Bush will not go into Iraq and kick ass and win – he will not close our borders down with Mexico – he is selling out this country to fascist corporations who don’t give a damn about America. He’s as loony about God as the Taliban. What is it about this guy you like?

BRING BACK GOLDWATER!!!!

K6BBC

[n2nh]

As usual, this is the loonie political correctness of the right and they want to blame the left for it? Like Bush and his administration ever listened to anybody who they disagreed with? "Reality bending Libs?"

If you say so. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ka5piu]

Hello.

Barry Goldwater was IMO one of the few honest politicos, bar none.

[KD6NIG]

War has never been fair since the advents of these rules.

Usually one side doesn't play by them, the other side is forced to, and you wind up with a conflict that takes a long time to win, or simply isn't winnable.

Now, it wouldn't have been right to attack these people because we would immedietely been chastised for doing it because its not proper. We knew this, and thats why we did what we did.....nothing.

Had we done so, we would have been accused of being murderers.

Flip this around though and if the enemy would have done it to us, they would have been cheering. Sure, we would be aghast, stunned, demanding justice, but we would have to pursue that justice within the rules.

The only real way to win is to toss the gloves off. Its not right, but the only way an enemy who doesn't care about rules will see the light is if those same rules they break are exercised right back at them in the same way.

Otherwise, its not even worth starting the fight.

The war isn't winnable because we can't win, its because we can't break the rules.

And because of that, we should have never started. If we cannot allow our people to defend themselves to the extent the other side can, then we shouldn't have even tried. If it was on our soil thats obviously a different story, but don't go picking a fight elsewhere when you know the rules you have to fight under make it impossible to win.

[n0ov]

Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 13 2006,08:40)]This story is beyond political correctness run amok, and should anger every American. #Thanks to years of political correctness from the LIBS this is were we find oursleves today. #This puts our troops in grave danger and has got to be very demoralizing.

http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/taliban_gets_bury_lucky_worldnews_ian_bishop.htm)
That's the easiest question I have seen to date.

The one thing that people hate more than a "Dit Dit Dee" power hungry idiot is a bunch of finger pointers that can only say something is wrong AND have no idea how to fix it, except place blame

[w2amr]

I would think being deployed 3 or 4 times, and being sent into battle without the proper armament would be even more demoralizing.

[W2ILP]

I don't think that political correctness endangers troops...nor does Colin Powell or some of the Republican Senators. #It has been "politically correct" to call Muslim fundamentalists TERRORISTS...or members of the Axis of Evil in order to be "politically correct" and not mention any religious fanaticism, which the fundamentalists of all religions are guilty of. #Did this endanger our troops? #IMHO the only thing that may endanger our troops is word that we do not follow the rules of the Geniva convention or that we use undue force that kills innocent civilians unnecessarily or that we commit attrocities in Iraq prisons or streets that are themselves acts of "terrorism". # Yep...Perhaps reporting the truth could also endanger our troops...but if lies are discovered they too endanger our troops. # The only way not to endanger our tropos in my opinion is to bring them home. #This might also help to reduce the future threat of "terrorism" to the USA.

I believe that the Democrats will be returned to power because of the back lash against Bush's foreign policies and his unreasonable domestic economic policies...but if they don't it will only be because the Republicans begin to see the truth. #In my opinion there is some hope that Republicans may get smart.

Either get out of Iraq...or draft a large Army and tax the rich for it. #Obviously one or the other can be the only logical plan. # Nobody wants the draft and increased taxation...so getting out of Iraq and the middle east and letting Israel fight for themselves is probably the most logical neutral solution...and the most humane and moral as well.

w2ilp (I Like Peace)...especially when it is cheaper than war in the long run.

[N7RJD]

Quote[/b] (ka5piu @ Sep. 14 2006,04:17)]Vietnam does not come close to the insanity that is Iraq.
We (US) are in Iraq, why?
Yes and no. You need to look at such things from an economical standpoint. Iraq is Vietnam adjusted for inflation.

[N7RJD]

As we prepare to elect a new president in 2 years and seem to be bound and determined to turn this country into a police state I say we do it right and elect this guy president Sheriff Joe (http://www.mcso.org/).

He could put up his tent city jail on the back lawn of the white house. No pink flamingos but all those inmates in pink underwear would be quite decorative. Of course most of congress would end up living in one of the tents but that's ok too.

Funny part is I don't even care what party, if any, he claims. I just like the no BS way the guy runs his county and would welcome this type of leadership at the head of this country.

[K0RGR]

First of all, the New York Post is another right wing News Corp tabloid rag owned by right wing billionaire Rupert Murdock, who also owns Faux News. I wouldn't believe an obituary published in that paper, particularly my own.

Second, only the most unbalanced on the right would consider it appropriate to attack a funeral service. Why don't we just bomb their schools, and get the next generation of terrorists now?

Contrary to your inflated neocon opinion, America is not capable of defeating the whole world. Turnabout is fair play. Now, the fact that people like the Post are willing to put their idiocy in writing will give our enemies license to break the rules of civilized conduct even more.

[kc7jty]

The biggest danger to the troops without a doubt is the current regime. They now have some 2,500 under their belts and counting.
Pop up 3xr: When will you weigh in again on this thread or are you done, hit and run?

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 14 2006,09:40)]Bush will not go into Iraq and kick ass and win – he will not close our borders down with Mexico – he is selling out this country to fascist corporations who don’t give a damn about America. He’s as loony about God as the Taliban. What is it about this guy you like?
I like the fact that in only 2 moron years we will be rid of the big-spending Republican answer to LBJ.

[KC2ESD]

K3XR you will like this: IMHO PC helped bring down The World Trade Center. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Rick KC2ESD

[ke7imb]

Quote[/b] (KC2PBJ @ Sep. 14 2006,00:17)]Political correctness, regardless of political party affiliation, has caused more military deaths than the so-called "enemy". #Remember the lessons of Viet Nam where politics as usual tore our nation apart? #Both parties have blood on their hands and the lessons of history are still being ignored - to the detriment of our nation and in the blood of our military personnel in a no-win engagement.
I agree We need More Genral Patton and less patten leather in the military. I also feel that the Army needs to do to the Insugents what Gen Black Jack Pershing Did to the Islamic up rising in the Philippines . Shoot some of the up risers and bury them with dead pigs and then tell them any more and we will do it everyone here. That stop them from doing any more insugency for over 80 years. I think we need to do it in Iraq as well.

[W2ILP]

I dunno if you remember but the U.S. bombed a wedding party in Afghanistan killing what were claimed to be non-military innocent people. #This resulted in riots. After that it is probably best not to order bombing processions at cemetaries as well. #It is hard to do anything in Pakistan or Afghanistan without knowing if you are hitting friends, foe or unconcerned humans. #Thus we can only fight as we did in VietNam with one hand behind our back and the other holding our nose.

We don't know who the enemy is for sure...because nobody wears the uniform of a "terrorist" or is carrying the flag of "The Evil Empire". # GWB knows we just have to ask the people in Arabic.. "Who dosen't like our life style?" or "Who doesn't like freedom?"...Then we will know who to kill by GWB's definition of who caused 9/11.

w2ilp (Ignore Long Processions)...they might not be enemy troop movements...and then again....they might think that we are the terrorists.

[W2ILP]

WE don't need any General Patton...but Eisenhower would be my choice for a General. I liked Ike.

w2ilp (Insanely Loyal Patton) was worse than he was shown to be in the movie "Patton". He was hated by his troops.

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (KC2ESD @ Sep. 15 2006,12:36)]K3XR you will like this: IMHO PC helped bring down The World Trade Center. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Rick KC2ESD
And to think I thought it was planes. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KA8DKT]

Quote[/b] (W0MT @ Sep. 14 2006,12:45)]Quote[/b] (K3XR @ Sep. 14 2006,07:40)]This story is beyond political correctness run amok, and should anger every American. #Thanks to years of political correctness from the LIBS this is were we find oursleves today. #This puts our troops in grave danger and has got to be very demoralizing.

http://www.nypost.com/php....rl=http (http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/taliban_gets_bury_lucky_worldnews_ian_bishop.htm)
What puts our troops in grave danger is sending them off to invade countries in the middle east. BTW, the death toll of US service personnel in the Afganistan and Iraq is about the same as the lives lost in 9/11. Throw in all of the women and children we have killed there and Bush's invasion has killed far more than the 9/11 terrorists.
What really puts our troops in danger, beside a war started on trumped up evidence, is sending them into battle without body armor and without vehicles with proper armor.

Rummy thinks the military is like a corporation, where you are supposed to put your employees in danger by eliminating those pesky and expensive safety standards, and eliminating as many people as possible.

-gary