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They just don't get it. Their continual rant about Iraq and Bush is getting old and turns people off. Well, now it looks like they are off. Off the air.
Air America Bankrupt. (http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/air-america-bankruptcy)
WB2WIK
09-13-2006, 10:58 PM
I won't miss it.
The #1 radio station in the L.A. market is an all-talk format radio station, though. They clobber everybody:
http://www.971freefm.com/
KF0RT
09-13-2006, 11:12 PM
Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Sep. 13 2006,16:58)]I won't miss it.
The #1 radio station in the L.A. market is an all-talk format radio station, though. They clobber everybody:
http://www.971freefm.com/
Whatever happened to Jamie? Used to be Jamie, Frosty and Frank. Who's this Heidi chick? They started in Denver (KBPI, I'm thinking), syndicated, then moved to LA. IMHO, Jamie was prettier than Heidi, but gads, she had a mouth on her -- I don't think she was ever more than 5 seconds away from an FCC citation.
This ain't "talk radio" as most people think of it. I think that show still plays in Denver, or it did until fairly recently. Used to listen to it all the time.
Edit: Gotta love the wiki... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frosty,_Heidi_&_Frank)
73, Rob
WB2WIK
09-13-2006, 11:34 PM
Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Sep. 13 2006,16:12)]Whatever happened to Jamie? Used to be Jamie, Frosty and Frank. Who's this Heidi chick? They started in Denver (KBPI, I'm thinking), syndicated, then moved to LA. IMHO, Jamie was prettier than Heidi, but gads, she had a mouth on her -- I don't think she was ever more than 5 seconds away from an FCC citation.
Heidi's actually really cute. She has huge dimples and if she smiles too much, they give you dimple overload. But she's a very attractive YL.
They have huge ratings, and of course Tom Leykis who follows them on the radio is syndicated all over the place and has huger ratings. Howard Stern used to kick off the mornings on KLSX until his contract expired at the end of '05 and he went to Sirius. When Howard was on, the KLSX ratings were completely unbeatable, they pretty much dominated the ratings race in L.A. Adam Corrola is doing the morning show now and has caught on well. He's funny.
WB2WIK/6
K6BBC
09-13-2006, 11:47 PM
And so is America thanks to the robber barons in DC.
K6BBC
k9kxq
09-14-2006, 12:15 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:53)]They just don't get it. #Their continual rant about Iraq and Bush is getting old and turns people off. #Well, now it looks like they are off. #Off the air.
Air America Bankrupt. (http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/air-america-bankruptcy)
WRONG! as I type I'm listening to "Air America" The Majority Report and they have not filed for bankruptcy that's excatly what was broadcasted in the last half hour.
Air America Radio (http://www.airamerica.com/listen/)
kxq
HBO put on a documentary called Left of the Dial about Air America.
Quite interesting whether you are a Democrat or Republican.
If one would actually read the article instead of finding something that appears to be a crybaby commie-pinko bash, you will see that Clear Channel is on board.
Now, while I am no fan of Clear Channel (one thing that did piss me off was Clinton and broadcast dereg), they are smart programmers. #They realize that for every Mick Jagger there is a Paul McCartney. #
You will see more FM's going talk very soon. As with music radio, it went from top 40 on KHJ and WABC to FM album rock on WNEW-FM to satellite. #Now you are seeing the evolution for FM's, as they are in the place where AM music stations were in 1979.
Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
K6BBC
09-14-2006, 12:52 AM
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. He is driven by core values. The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,19:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. He is driven by core values. The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
ouch. pwned!
Howard Stern still rules.
<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>BABA BOOEY!! BABA BOOEY!!</span>
K6BBC
09-14-2006, 08:11 PM
Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,17:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Why are Americans so sex obsessed? What a man or woman does in their private life is of no business of yours or mine.
BTW - she was his producer, not an intern.
K6BBC
kc7mrq
09-14-2006, 08:35 PM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 14 2006,06:11)]Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,17:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Why are Americans so sex obsessed? #What a man or woman does in their private life is of no business of yours or mine.
BTW - she was his producer, not an intern.
K6BBC
WOW!
That's quite the catch. I hear they are harder to bag than wet-behind-the-ear interns.
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KC4HGH
09-14-2006, 08:56 PM
K2WH: "They just don't get it. Their continual rant about Iraq and Bush is getting old and turns people off."
Sounds like some people on this forum, huh?
Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. Why is that do you suppose?
K2WH
KF0RT
09-14-2006, 09:07 PM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,15:05)]Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. Why is that do you suppose?
Crap floats?
73, Rob
Quote[/b] (kc7mrq @ Sep. 14 2006,13:35)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 14 2006,06:11)]Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,17:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Why are Americans so sex obsessed? #What a man or woman does in their private life is of no business of yours or mine.
BTW - she was his producer, not an intern.
K6BBC
WOW!
That's quite the catch. I hear they are harder to bag than wet-behind-the-ear interns.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Clinton was fair game, true?
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,16:05)]Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. Why is that do you suppose?
K2WH
Conservatives have money.
Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 14 2006,10:31)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,16:05)]Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. #Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. #Why is that do you suppose?
K2WH
Conservatives have money.
Sure, and all liberals are poor right? Truth is, conservative radio is listened to by mainstream America. The failure/imminent failure of Progressive Radio is a perfect example. No support, not enough listeners which equates to more conservative values in this country.
K2WH
ka0gkt
09-14-2006, 11:35 PM
The one thing which Liberal Talk Radio lacks is entertainment value. Members of the Left often are listeners to NPR, and commercial radio doesn't make it. Don't get me wrong, I'll listen to talk radio even if some of the things the various air talent types say make me angry, but there must be some entertainment value. The reason Rush and others of his genre have made it where Al Frankin and others of his version of the genre haven't is in numbers of listeners and the advertisers which listeners attract. The times I have tuned into Air America, all I have heard is pure vitriol; that kind of broadcasting doesn't attract many constant listeners.
Even though I have spent most of my broadcasting career in the Engineering shop or at the transmitter sites, I have enough years in broadcasting (over 30) to know that if you can't entertain your listeners, you'll loose them.
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
KC4HGH
09-14-2006, 11:50 PM
Per Steve, KA0GKT: "The times I have tuned into Air America, all I have heard is pure vitriol"
Yeah, it wouldn't be pretty, hearing them having a stoke, or worse, on-the-air....
KI4ITV
09-15-2006, 02:53 AM
I tend not to like 'hate speech' from either side.
FB on the bankruptcy.
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Quote[/b] (ka0gkt @ Sep. 14 2006,18:35)]The one thing which Liberal Talk Radio lacks is entertainment value. Members of the Left often are listeners to NPR, and commercial radio doesn't make it. Don't get me wrong, I'll listen to talk radio even if some of the things the various air talent types say make me angry, but there must be some entertainment value. The reason Rush and others of his genre have made it where Al Frankin and others of his version of the genre haven't is in numbers of listeners and the advertisers which listeners attract. The times I have tuned into Air America, all I have heard is pure vitriol; that kind of broadcasting doesn't attract many constant listeners.
Even though I have spent most of my broadcasting career in the Engineering shop or at the transmitter sites, I have enough years in broadcasting (over 30) to know that if you can't entertain your listeners, you'll loose them.
73 DE KAØGKT/7
--Steve
Exactly.
Nobody is taking al franken, randi rhodes or g-d forbid jerry springer seriously. I agree that they are extreme. But I don't think the majority of liberals/democrats/progressives really agree with everything they say.
Hannity/Limbaugh/ingraham/levin/o'reilly are taken seriously by many people, and I think a lot of people take what they say to heart. That's why they'll get more advertisers and sponsors.
And the latter is a pretty scary thing.
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,13:47)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 14 2006,10:31)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,16:05)]Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. #Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. #Why is that do you suppose?
K2WH
Conservatives have money.
Sure, and all liberals are poor right? #Truth is, conservative radio is listened to by mainstream America. #The failure/imminent failure of Progressive Radio is a perfect example. #No support, not enough listeners which equates to more conservative values in this country.
K2WH
I think GKT said it best, the ratings are what matter. A Limbaugh or a Savage in all their outrageousness does provide some entertainment value. Ratings are the big reason these comedians get more outrageous all the time. One only has to look at Glen Beck's act on HNN.
Air America IS boring. Unlike some of the Kool-aid drinkers on the right, I don't need to sit and listen to people I agree with all day long. Keith Olbermann survives because he is truly entertaining, unlike Air America. Olbermann's outrage over some of the garbage the current administration has pulled is well thought out and genuine. I especially liked his 9/11 commentary.
I listen to the other side's view to see if they have anything of substance to say. They rarely do, but it IS fun to listen the verbal contortionism that goes whenever the Bush administration makes yet another mistake.
The real danger is when these comedians/entertainers start being taken seriously by the public. There's nothing "mainstream" about their continual assault on civil liberties and their screaming epithets against those who don't share their brand of kool-aid. Unfortunately, some of their more outrageous comments get accepted as fact by the less enlightened. Ann Coulter is a shining example.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Lib radio will always have a difficult time surviving because Libs have such a difficult time with the truth. #Maybe comrade #George (Daddy Warbucks) Soros will bail out Airhead Radio, otherwise they will go from QRP in NYC to QRT. The LIBS will just need to hang in there, and wait for Hanoi Jane, and the feminazis to start up their new propaganda radio network.
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 14 2006,13:11)]Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,17:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. He is driven by core values. The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Why are Americans so sex obsessed? What a man or woman does in their private life is of no business of yours or mine.
BTW - she was his producer, not an intern.
K6BBC
Howard Stern is the sucess he is because of Americans obsession with sex.
I listened to his show once and found it rather vile, crude and disgusting.
2WH and 3XR should really stop holding their breath on this one. It may and may not happen. They were on my radio this afternoon and they'll be on tomorrow. On WWRL, the station nobody here is supposed to get. Hold on to that confetti. I hear that in November you'll really have something to celebrate. Oh, sorry. That would be me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 14 2006,21:42)]2WH and 3XR should really stop holding their breath on this one. #It may and may not happen. #They were on my radio this afternoon and they'll be on tomorrow. #On WWRL, the station nobody here is supposed to get. #Hold on to that confetti. #I hear that in November you'll really have something to celebrate. #Oh, sorry. #That would be me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Yes, John, we'll celebrate.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (al2n @ Sep. 14 2006,21:08)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 14 2006,13:11)]Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Sep. 13 2006,17:54)]Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Core values such as trying to screw an intern and settling out of court??
Why are Americans so sex obsessed? #What a man or woman does in their private life is of no business of yours or mine.
BTW - she was his producer, not an intern.
K6BBC
Howard Stern is the sucess he is because of Americans obsession with sex.
I listened to his show once and found it rather vile, crude and disgusting.
Absolutely.
Howard Stern is as much of a plague on society as the right wing idiots on talk radio.
His show IS crude, vile and disgusting.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
Quote[/b] (nx6d @ Sep. 15 2006,01:44)]Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 14 2006,21:42)]... Hold on to that confetti. I hear that in November you'll really have something to celebrate. Oh, sorry. That would be me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Yes, John, we'll celebrate.
Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA
You got that right. Might make a good net. Meets once a year to lift a pint (or 4) to winners, losers and whiners. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
w2amr
09-15-2006, 09:25 AM
Quote[/b] (k6bbc @ Sep. 13 2006,17:52)]Quote[/b] (AB2MH @ Sep. 13 2006,17:46)]Air America on XM is funny.
Mark Levin on ABC 77 is scary.
So are Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly and Ingraham.
O'Reilly should not be on that list. #He is driven by core values. #The other three are Bush lackies.
K6BBC
Learn something new every day. Here I thought #Bill O was driven by insanity and paranoia #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
w2amr
09-15-2006, 09:42 AM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,15:53)]They just don't get it. #Their continual rant about Iraq and Bush is getting old and turns people off. #Well, now it looks like they are off. #Off the air.
Air America Bankrupt. (http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/air-america-bankruptcy)
I can't imagine why they are having money problems. They are broadcasting on 88 stations nationwide +XM satellite, and they seem to have no problem getting advertising. Maybe the 2 mill they pay Franken each year is cutting into their bottom line. Overall, I think Sirius left has better programming, and half the commercials.
w8znx
09-15-2006, 06:02 PM
Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 14 2006,14:05)]Latest news, seems like Air America (progressive radio) may be bailed out financially. #Thats Okay, but you certainly don't see conservative radio needing to be bailed. #Why is that do you suppose?
K2WH
easy
most Libs do not need
broadcasters to tell them how to think
they can and do read
which means they get
information from other sorces
like books, magazines and the newspapers
where as many members of the new right
get all of their news and information
from news talk broadcasting
note that the head neo con
George W does not like to read
Mac
w2amr
09-16-2006, 08:24 AM
Many car companies have gone belly up over the years. Not because people didn't buy cars, #but because the companies either offered inferior products or they were mismanaged. There is certainly a huge market for liberal talk radio. The trick is for a company sharp enough to tap into it. Air America has been mismanaged from the beginning and I'm surprised it has lasted this long.
WA3WDR
09-17-2006, 03:52 AM
Air America was in big trouble pretty much from day one, because of serious problems from the guy (Cohen) who founded it. #A crooked deal with some camp for kids group, in which he was on that group's board of directors while founding Air America, and then lies, then Cohen got the boot, and there was some expensive repayment deal from Air America to the children's group - that was the story I read about a year ago.
Left-radio seems to lack a large listener base, but meanwhile the rest of the talk industry may be swinging away from Atilla the Hun and toward a middle path. #Air America and (I guess) Progressive Radio are on WWRL 1600 in NYC, but I tuned to Bloomberg Radio 1130 from NYC, and there was some serious criticism of the Bush administration going on. #I tuned in again the next night, and there it was again. #Bloomberg is not Progressive Radio or Air America - they are business oriented.
And ABC Radio did not renew John Batchelor's right-wing show, that had been airing on WABC in NYC, and on WMAL 630 around DC, since just before 9/11. #It expired at the beginning of September 2006, a five-year run. #Around DC, Coast to Coast AM has replaced Batchelor, and they are definitely not Bush administration supporters.
Could this be a trend? #The Radio Rule of the Right may have peaked. #We'll see. #Stay tuned...
<edit> darn typos
Lefty Radio is far from dead. Anyone ever tune in the heavily slanted "reporting" on NPR (National Palestinean Radio)? My radio slides off the shelf when I tune to 88.1.