WTC Site Populated by Whack Jobs

[K2WH]

Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,11:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. #The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. #We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. #A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
What were you expecting? "The Bobsey Twins Visit Manhattan", with pretty posies and bright and shiny faces?

You get out much Whiskey Hotel?

Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA

[kl7aj]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,12:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. #The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. #We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. #A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
The only alternative is a totalitarian society, where all "abnormal" people are exterminated or kept out of sight. # Take your pick.


Eric

[KA9VQF]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Sep. 13 2006,12:58)]{edited quote}
The only alternative is a totalitarian society, where all "abnormal" people are exterminated or kept out of sight. # Take your pick.


Eric
I'm thinkin

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Sep. 13 2006,11:58)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,12:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
The only alternative is a totalitarian society, where all "abnormal" people are exterminated or kept out of sight. Take your pick.


Eric
I'm thinking about that Eric. I think a radically free society would have little of this sort of dysfunction, because property owners who open their facilitites to general enjoyment would also feel free to police and evict without ten-thousand BS laws to interfere with smooth commerce and behavior.

K2WH is seeing the results of too little freedom.

[G0GQK]

Perhaps there are so many "wacky" people in NY that they think anyone who doesn't have green hair is "wacky". Seems the same thing applies to CA.

G0GQK

[n2nh]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,15:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
Wow, I thought you said you were in the city every day? Welcome to Fun City. Usually when I've been there, there were few of the 'attention getters' there. They must've gone there for the 9/11 weekend. I've been there at least 40-50 times in the last 5 years, never seen the scene you describe. It must really jangle those Joisey eyes. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Oh, a word of advice. If you ever go to England and visit London, stay away from Hyde Park. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Sep. 13 2006,15:58)]The only alternative is a totalitarian society, where all "abnormal" people are exterminated or kept out of sight. # Take your pick.


Eric
Nonsense. The alternative is for parents to return to parenting, and to instill a value structure in their progeny instead of the shallow pablum that passes for wisdom today: "whatever."

Mommy works, not because mommy needs to work, but because mommy and daddy want a DLP widescreen, a new Hummer and cannot tolerate the thought that the "second" car would be anything less that a bimmer. Of course, why have your children seen in anything less stylish than an upscale import "sport sedan?"

Poverty in this nation means that your color TV is not yet HD, and that only trade the auto in every five years, instead of two.

All of the traits listed in the lead post, and a host of others, many yet worse, is on parade everywhere in this nation today. Open your eyes. What is far worse than their appearance is their utter lack of knowledge or fundamental communication or calculating skills; they can't speak, they can't write, they can't spell and not one out of a hundred has ever heard of, let alone could identify any of the work of, Virgil, Horace, Plato, Aurelius, Ptolemy, Aristotle, Kipling, Disraeli, Keats, Buonorrotti, Aquinas, Servetius or à Kempis.

The hope of the future of this nation is the immigrants who risk death itself, clinging to inner tubes in the Caribbean, or letting themselve be locked into airless truck van, or risking encounters with rabid vigilantes, in order to get into this country to have a chance that these puerile progeny of putrifying principles already have had, and already have wasted.

[KC2PBJ]

Welcome to the Big City, country boy. What you've described is a less than normal enviornmental condition for lower Manhattan. Try beautiful, fragrant, midtown Manhattan on a Friday night when the moom is full and the welfare checks are out.( or the 73rd-75th Precinct in Brooklyn: even at 3 AM.) Case studies in aberrant psych abound. Ya just gotta laugh at what you see and travel accordingly to avoid problems. New York "Is A Summer Fistfight".

[al2i]

Quote[/b] (KC2PBJ @ Sep. 13 2006,13:20)]...and the welfare checks are out.
Why People Misbehave 101: They can do so without starving.

[N7CPC]

.........yawn.........

[WB2WIK]

All that stuff would be considered pretty normal here in Venice Beach.

Except we have an actual beach. There's Muscle Beach, where real bodybuilders work out in bathing suits. Right next to that is a boardwalk where guys juggle chain saws that are running. You can buy an ice cream cone right there and watch either group, or then you can take a short walk and see really weird stuff.

WB2WIK/6

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Sep. 13 2006,15:18)]Mommy works, not because mommy needs to work, but because mommy and daddy want a DLP widescreen, a new Hummer and cannot tolerate the thought that the "second" car would be anything less that a bimmer. Of course, why have your children seen in anything less stylish than an upscale import "sport sedan?"

Poverty in this nation means that your color TV is not yet HD, and that only trade the auto in every five years, instead of two.
<applause>

73, Rob

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 13 2006,10:05)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,15:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. #The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. #We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. #A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
Wow, I thought you said you were in the city every day? #Welcome to Fun City. #Usually when I've been there, there were few of the 'attention getters' there. #They must've gone there for the 9/11 weekend. #I've been there at least 40-50 times in the last 5 years, never seen the scene you describe. #It must really jangle those Joisey eyes. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Oh, a word of advice. #If you ever go to England and visit London, stay away from Hyde Park. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
No, I haven't been to the "city" in about 5 years. #Prior to 911, I had had numerous meetings in the WTC on the ~80th floor with NY/NJ Port Authority personnel and for sometime, I had nightmares of those meetings, figuring I would be one of the dead if the planes hit while I was in the tower. #Scary thoughts for sure. #BTW, whoever called me a "country boy", your wrong. #The wife calls me a "city boy" and I will always be a "city boy". #Grew up in the Jersey City ghettos. Only been in the country (deep) for about 12 years.

K2WH

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,15:47)]BTW, whoever called me a "country boy", your wrong. The wife calls me a "city boy" and I will always be a "city boy". Grew up in the Jersey City ghettos.
Brings back memories.

My best friend's (in grade school) dad had a cigar store on Journal Square in J.C. Can you imagine, he made a good living having a cigar store? I think that was back when everybody smoked.

Used to go in with them sometimes and catch a movie at one of the theaters there, for $0.35 I think.

"Those were the days..." -Archie Bunker.

WB2WIK/6

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Sep. 13 2006,11:54)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,15:47)]BTW, whoever called me a "country boy", your wrong. #The wife calls me a "city boy" and I will always be a "city boy". Grew up in the Jersey City ghettos.
Brings back memories.

My best friend's (in grade school) dad had a cigar store on Journal Square in J.C. #Can you imagine, he made a good living having a cigar store? #I think that was back when everybody smoked.

Used to go in with them sometimes and catch a movie at one of the theaters there, for $0.35 I think.

"Those were the days..." -Archie Bunker.

WB2WIK/6
Ah Steve, yes those were the days. The wife being a "country girl", was never in JC so I pointed out some of the sites. The movie houses are now landmarks, the "State" and the "Stanley" are still there. I remember hiding under my coat as a small boy when I saw my first Horror Movie. "House on Haunted Hill". I couldn't sleep for a week I was so scared.

Journal Square is a booming metropolis right now, high rises etc. Mostly recent immigrants and Spanish is the language of choice.

K2WH

[WF7A]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Sep. 13 2006,06:18)]Open your eyes. What is far worse than their appearance is their utter lack of knowledge or fundamental communication or calculating skills; they can't speak, they can't write, they can't spell and not one out of a hundred has ever heard of, let alone could identify any of the work of, Virgil, Horace, Plato, Aurelius, Ptolemy, Aristotle, Kipling, Disraeli, Keats, Buonorrotti, Aquinas, Servetius or à Kempis.
All too true. I frequently "upchange" when I purchase something at a store, e.g., if the total comes to $2.56, I'll give the cashier $3.06 so I can get two quarters back instead of 44 cents change. Nine times out of ten, when I do that I get the deer-in-the-headlights look from the cashier as if to ask, "What are you doing?" or "What do I do with this?" You can almost hear the gears and cogwheels in their heads grind to a complete halt.

*sigh*

[K8MHZ]

Quote[/b] ]people reading poetry,

Can you believe the depths the scum of the earth will sink to?

[K6BBC]

Quote[/b] (W3MIV @ Sep. 13 2006,14:18)]Nonsense. The alternative is for parents to return to parenting, and to instill a value structure in their progeny instead of the shallow pablum that passes for wisdom today: "whatever."
Yeah, like get to the back of the bus, boy.

Ah, to good old days.

K6BBC

[ka5piu]

Hello.

This seems to be the American way.
San Antonio has a memorial to 09/11.
The people there were, well, odd.
This is on the same level as the nit-wits who protest a veterans funeral.
Can we test the air force microwave thingys now?

[N2RJ]

I'm sorry Bill, but what were you really expecting?

People do this sort of stuff in Manhattan because the world's eyes are focused there.

One more thing, if the world is going to hell, COOL! Maybe finally I can be one of the cool kids. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[wa9cwx]

Actually, I would welcome a few odd, offbeat, and entertaining people.

Conservative and conventional are the virtues in Wisconsin.

Nice place to live, but I wouldn't care to visit here.

[K1OU]

Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Sep. 13 2006,14:05)]Oh, a word of advice. #If you ever go to England and visit London, stay away from Hyde Park. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
And another piece of advice. If you are near NYC again, stay away, because it's obviously traumatic that people who aren't like you aren't superfluous afterall.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Sep. 13 2006,14:18)]All that stuff would be considered pretty normal here in Venice Beach.

..... Right next to that is a boardwalk where guys juggle chain saws that are running.....



WB2WIK/6
Next time you're in the area, say hi to "Lefty"!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w3sy]

Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Sep. 12 2006,21:56)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Sep. 13 2006,14:18)]All that stuff would be considered pretty normal here in Venice Beach.

..... Right next to that is a boardwalk where guys juggle chain saws that are running.....



WB2WIK/6
Next time you're in the area, say hi to #"Lefty"!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Reminds me of the guy who lost the ENTIRE left side of his body in a horrible chainsaw accident.

(GOSH! HOW IS HE??)

He's all right now.

[al2n]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,12:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
Sounds like a visit to downtown Seattle.

[K0RGR]

We have a corner like that here in Bugtussle! There is a small, resident schizophrenic population here. I don't know how they survive in the winter.

[k4kyv]

One night many years ago, I took the NYC subway with a couple friends and we went to see a late-night double feature "Night of the living dead" and "Freaks." The train ride was on par with the films.

[KA8DKT]

Quote[/b] (al2i @ Sep. 13 2006,16:55)]Quote[/b] (kl7aj @ Sep. 13 2006,11:58)]Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 13 2006,12:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. #The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. #We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. #A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
The only alternative is a totalitarian society, where all "abnormal" people are exterminated or kept out of sight. # Take your pick.


Eric
I'm thinking about that Eric. #I think a radically free society would have little of this sort of dysfunction, because property owners who open their facilitites to general enjoyment would also feel free to police and evict without ten-thousand BS laws to interfere with smooth commerce and behavior.

K2WH is seeing the results of too little freedom.
WH-
Couldn't help but notice that you included "religious people of many beliefs" in amongst the whackjobs, wierdos, druggies, etc. # And, then you say, "GOD help us!" #Huh.

2I-
I completely agree. #And when everyone becomes honest and completely responsible for their own actions we can get rid of those pesky laws. #But until then...

-gary

[G8ADD]

"Sun glasses with windscreen wipers". Cool. Where do I get a pair?

As a lifelong spectacle wearer I have often cursed the lack of visibility during rain.

Instead of berating the Whack Jobs you should be proud of the tolerance that your culture has for them. The right to be different is precious; as hams we depend on it!

73

Brian G8ADD

[nx6d]

Quote[/b] (G8ADD @ Sep. 14 2006,00:24)]As a lifelong spectacle wearer I have often cursed the lack of visibility during rain.
One word, Brian.

Lasik...

Did it in 2000. One of the best things I ever did...

Dave NX6D
Sonoma County, CA

[wv6z]

Quote[/b] (K2WH @ Sep. 12 2006,13:49)]Living in NJ, I had the opportunity to visit the WTC site with the wife on Sept 10. #The train station which was crushed under the towers, was rebuilt and wound its way through the WTC bathtub. #We left from Jersey City for a nice day trip.

As a citizen of this country, I was very annoyed and embarrassed by what I saw and what I was forced to observe. #A plethora of the insane, ordinary whackjobs, green haired weirdos conspiracy theorists, religious people of many beliefs, druggies, people reading poetry, the homeless, people posting placards on poles, a guy wearing sun glasses with wiper blades on them, cops, motorcycle groups, TV cameras etc.

GOD help us.

K2WH
I must have missed something.... did you say WTC in NYC or Hyde Park in London? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W3MIV]

Quote[/b] (w3sy @ Sep. 13 2006,23:03)]Quote[/b] (kf6rdn @ Sep. 12 2006,21:56)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Sep. 13 2006,14:18)]All that stuff would be considered pretty normal here in Venice Beach.

..... Right next to that is a boardwalk where guys juggle chain saws that are running.....



WB2WIK/6
Next time you're in the area, say hi to #"Lefty"!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Reminds me of the guy who lost the ENTIRE left side of his body in a horrible chainsaw accident.

(GOSH! HOW IS HE??)

He's all right now.
Probably the better man for it. We should repeat the surgery on some of the folks around here. In many cases, either result would be a benefit, methinks.