4 Religious Thruths

[k4kyv]

During these serious times people of all faiths should remember these 4 religious truths:

1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God's chosen people
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian world.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters.

[ai4ep]

# 4 is totally wrong, they not only recognize each other at local clubs, bars and lounges, they also recognize each other at the beer store .

with all due apologies.....AI4EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W2ILP]

One truth...
All religions are mythical lies, that have nothing to do with real truths....nor were they ever meant to.

If that was always realized the 4 origanal posted "truths" would all be redundent....both at serious times, at laugh-ins....and even at bars, liqour stores and Hooters.

w2ilp (I Live Practically)...I have nothing to fear but my own conservative morality. #I am too rich to be a martyr and too poor to afford to be immoral.

[ac4ut]

Another truth is that everyone has an opinion and the right to believe as they may choose to believe.

[n0jaa]

Quote[/b] (ac4ut @ Aug. 23 2006,15:15)]Another truth is that #everyone has an opinion and the right to believe as they may choose to believe.
Unless you're a Baptist, then they tell you what you believe.

[ae4fa]

And here's #5, which - in my view - is the most profound theological statement ever made.


















S**t Happens

Read Job.

[KC4HGH]

Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 23 2006,15:11)]Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.
So, you know what God intended?

Damn.

[ei5ja]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,15:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 23 2006,15:11)]Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.
So, you know what God intended?

Damn.
I'm sure he doesn't but I am equally sure he knows it is not the nonsense the Man is perpertrating in His name.
73 ed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[ab8ma]

I was BORN a Baptist, but it wore off.

Mark Twain

[n7rjd]

Truth in religion?

What's next truth in politics?

You guys kill me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KA7RRA]

Quote[/b] (n0jaa @ Aug. 23 2006,13:53)][Unless you're a Baptist, then they tell you what you believe.
the southern Baptist are the worse. you have to believe their way or you are evil

[KG6YTZ]

"Have you ever heard of a Presbyterian holy war???"
--- The Frantics, "Heaven Is For Presbyterians"

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Aug. 23 2006,16:51)]the southern Baptist are the worse. you have to believe their way or you are evil
Isn't that also the core of the Neo-con belief system?

[w5klb]

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Aug. 23 2006,18:55)]Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Aug. 23 2006,16:51)]the southern Baptist are the worse. #you have to believe their way or you are evil
Isn't that also the core of the Neo-con belief system?
The short answer is "No".

[AE6IP]

The Laughing Ghod in the Corner asked me to tell you that there is more truth in metaphor than in fact.

[wa4brl]

Quote[/b] (w5klb @ Aug. 23 2006,22:17)]Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Aug. 23 2006,18:55)]Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Aug. 23 2006,16:51)]the southern Baptist are the worse. #you have to believe their way or you are evil
Isn't that also the core of the Neo-con belief system?
The short answer is "No".
...within the realm of great truths, the long answer is: "BUT OF COURSE!"

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I know of some " church-of-christ" who believe that " if you dont go to our church, you will go to hades "...but another "church-of-christ " a few miles away, their folks are a lot friendlier and nice to others who aint of their religion.

In that situation, it is the individual church, and NOT the whole religion. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (k4kyv @ Aug. 23 2006,19:55)]Quote[/b] (KA7RRA @ Aug. 23 2006,16:51)]the southern Baptist are the worse. you have to believe their way or you are evil
Isn't that also the core of the Neo-con belief system?
Touche'....

73, Rob

[K5RCD]

ANOTHER RELIGIOUS TRUTH:

There are NO Amish hams ! #Should we reach out to them ? # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W2ILP]

Don't be too sure that their are no Amish Hams.
The Amish use horse and buggies in preference to automobiles.
That is because there are no automobiles mentioned in their Bible.
Maybe some Amish prefer Ham Radio to cell phones and the Internet.

There was, after all, a Ham mentioned in the Bible. #He was one of Noah's boys.

w2ilp (I Like Pennsylvania)...and Amish cooking.

[N9XR]

Quote[/b] (W2ILP @ Aug. 24 2006,04:39)]That is because there are no automobiles mentioned in their Bible.
What about that one part?

"And Moses come down from the mountain in his Triumph?"

Did you mean non-Brit automobiles?

[al2n]

And all of the Apostles were in one Accord.

Lot was lead out of Soddom and Gomorrah by a heavenly Escort.

I am sure there are others, but i can't remember them at the moment. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC4HGH]

Quote[/b] (ei5ja @ Aug. 23 2006,16:32)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,15:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 23 2006,15:11)]Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.
So, you know what God intended?

Damn.
I'm sure he doesn't but I am equally sure he knows it is not the nonsense the Man is perpertrating in His name.
73 ed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Only through studying God's Word can we understand....in Revelations, it is written that "nothing should be added nor taken away from this Book"...and in many instances, that's JUST what man has done making "denominations", where they believe & study pieces of the Bible and then add their own little laws and regulations into their beliefs.

I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.

Now, the apparently assinine attitudes of one denomination against the other is what fractures the Church and makes us all weaker....easy pickin's for non-Christians who would like to wipe the U.S. clean of what we enjoy today.

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,11:10)]I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.
Yeah, I see that a lot: People read the bible more when they get older. And then they read it a lot when they get really old.

It's cramming for the final exam. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kc7jty]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,12:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,11:10)]I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.
Yeah, I see that a lot: People read the bible more when they get older. #And then they read it a lot when they get really old.

It's cramming for the final exam. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I called an old friend's sister a few weeks back to tell her I was sorry to hear of her brother's death and of missing his funeral service. I explained we had a falling out over the last 2 years because of his pushing his religion on me.

Her reply:
Yes....well when you know you are going to die (cancer) that's the time to get in good with the Lord.
I replied: Yes, I can see the sense in that.
My real thought: opportunist looking to someone who doesn't require much loyalty.

[WB2WIK]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Aug. 24 2006,11:32)]Yes....well when you know you are going to die (cancer) that's the time to get in good with the Lord.
I replied: Yes, I can see the sense in that.
My real thought: opportunist looking to someone who doesn't require much loyalty.
Then, there's the real truth, which is: When you're dead 100 years, you just started being dead.

[al2n]

Quote[/b] (kc7jty @ Aug. 24 2006,11:32)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,12:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,11:10)]I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.
Yeah, I see that a lot: People read the bible more when they get older. And then they read it a lot when they get really old.

It's cramming for the final exam. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I called an old friend's sister a few weeks back to tell her I was sorry to hear of her brother's death and of missing his funeral service. I explained we had a falling out over the last 2 years because of his pushing his religion on me.

Her reply:
Yes....well when you know you are going to die (cancer) that's the time to get in good with the Lord.
I replied: Yes, I can see the sense in that.
My real thought: opportunist looking to someone who doesn't require much loyalty.
But this practice does not work well for those who die suddenly.

Best to choose your path long before death enters the picture.

[KC2PBJ]

Quote[/b] (al2n @ Aug. 24 2006,12:57)]And all of the Apostles were in one Accord.

Lot was lead out of Soddom and Gomorrah by a heavenly Escort.

I am sure there are others, but i can't remember them at the moment. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
And there were only 200 mexican soldiers at the Alamo. They couldn't fit any more in the Chevy.

[KE5FRF]

Even a joke religious thread becomes a competition to see who is the smartest and has figured out the entire fabric of the universe.

I'm not impressed.

Another good Baptist joke, very old...

Q: If you invite a Baptist to go fishing with you, why should you invite another Baptist?

A: if you bring two, they won't drink any of your beer.

I was raised Southern Baptist, but I don't affiliate myself with a denomination anymore.

[KW4MW]

Some folks I know are Southern Baptists and they do take quite a ribbing from time to time.

However one of them defines a Southern Baptist as a person that goes out on Saturday night and sows wild oats, then goes to church on Sunday and prays for crop failure. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WF7A]

What is God, anyway? An oversized male in a chair hurling thunderbolts across the heavens, or a cosmic muffin?

Sorry, but any god that demands total adoration, has a bad temper, is vengeful, and gets jealous very easily is a little hard to worship and have respect for.

[kf6rdn]

Quote[/b] (WF7A @ Aug. 24 2006,20:52)]Sorry, but any god that demands total adoration, has a bad temper, is vengeful, and gets jealous very easily is a little hard to worship and have respect for.
And sounds alot like my ex!

[WF7A]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Good one!

[AE6IP]

Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,11:10)]you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!
The Laughing Ghod in the Corner says to tell you that it fits in the same size box as a pocket watch. Also, it claims, most gods fit into much smaller boxes than that.

[KA8DKT]

Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,14:10)]Quote[/b] (ei5ja @ Aug. 23 2006,16:32)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,15:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 23 2006,15:11)]Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.
So, you know what God intended?

Damn.
I'm sure he doesn't but I am equally sure he knows it is not the nonsense the Man is perpertrating in His name.
73 ed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Only through studying God's Word can we understand....in Revelations, it is written that "nothing should be added nor taken away from this Book"...and in many instances, that's JUST what man has done making "denominations", where they believe & study pieces of the Bible and then add their own little laws and regulations into their beliefs.

I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.

Now, the apparently assinine attitudes of one denomination against the other is what fractures the Church and makes us all weaker....easy pickin's for non-Christians who would like to wipe the U.S. clean of what we enjoy today.
I, for one, do not want to "wipe clean what we enjoy today". #I am assuming that what you meant is that you think the non-deists want to get rid of your religion. #I don't think that is true in general, and it certainly is not true for me.

However, I would like to be able to go buy a six-pack of beer or a fifth of gin on Sunday, and stop having those young boys in suits knocking on my door telling me I must be saved. #In other words, please enjoy your religion if it gives you some comfort. #But please stop trying to force me to live my life according to your religious precepts.

If you look at it that way, you can see that many religions, and especially the Christian and Islamic fundamentalists, are geared toward making everyone follow their religion "or else". #One thing I like about Judaism, Buddism, and Hinduism is that they don't care what I believe and are not telling me I have to believe their way.

Just because I am a non-deist does not mean I have no morals, or that I cannot behave with respect for life or for other people. #And, in fact, I would believe in a god if only I were presented with real, and unambiguous, evidence of a god's existance. #And no, the Bible is not evidence, it is only anecdotal. #Change this glass of water into wine while I watch would be enough...but no matter how many times I ask, it never happens. #Sorry, just "faith" is not enough for me. #If I have faith, it is in what I can observe about the world around me and not in something that cannot be seen, heard, felt, measured, and for which evidence indicates otherwise. #

I think it is unfortunate that the basic tenet of religious belief, that which apparently states that when faced with evidence to the contrary, the faith is more correct no matter what, gets carried over into other aspects of the believers' lives. #They tend to believe what they want to believe on a wide range of subjects not related to religion, even when there is solid unambiguous evidence otherwise. #It would seem that their religion has stifled their ability to think clearly. #And I am especially wary of anyone who tells me that I should not question or investigate or seek proof.

Fact is, the more fundamentalist the Christians and Islamics become, the less they seem to follow the important Commandments, and the less respect they have for other people and life in general. #And because of that I have less respect for them and their religions.

If there were a true religion, there would be only one religion.

-gary

[KC4HGH]

Quote[/b] (KA8DKT @ Aug. 30 2006,14:47)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,14:10)]Quote[/b] (ei5ja @ Aug. 23 2006,16:32)]Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 23 2006,15:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 23 2006,15:11)]Just remember: religion is man's adulteration of God's original intended Relationship....the former is tainted, the latter is perfect.
So, you know what God intended?

Damn.
I'm sure he doesn't but I am equally sure he knows it is not the nonsense the Man is perpertrating in His name.
73 ed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Only through studying God's Word can we understand....in Revelations, it is written that "nothing should be added nor taken away from this Book"...and in many instances, that's JUST what man has done making "denominations", where they believe & study pieces of the Bible and then add their own little laws and regulations into their beliefs.

I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.

Now, the apparently assinine attitudes of one denomination against the other is what fractures the Church and makes us all weaker....easy pickin's for non-Christians who would like to wipe the U.S. clean of what we enjoy today.
I, for one, do not want to "wipe clean what we enjoy today". #I am assuming that what you meant is that you think the non-deists want to get rid of your religion. #I don't think that is true in general, and it certainly is not true for me.

However, I would like to be able to go buy a six-pack of beer or a fifth of gin on Sunday, and stop having those young boys in suits knocking on my door telling me I must be saved. #In other words, please enjoy your religion if it gives you some comfort. #But please stop trying to force me to live my life according to your religious precepts.

If you look at it that way, you can see that many religions, and especially the Christian and Islamic fundamentalists, are geared toward making everyone follow their religion "or else". #One thing I like about Judaism, Buddism, and Hinduism is that they don't care what I believe and are not telling me I have to believe their way.

Just because I am a non-deist does not mean I have no morals, or that I cannot behave with respect for life or for other people. #And, in fact, I would believe in a god if only I were presented with real, and unambiguous, evidence of a god's existance. #And no, the Bible is not evidence, it is only anecdotal. #Change this glass of water into wine while I watch would be enough...but no matter how many times I ask, it never happens. #Sorry, just "faith" is not enough for me. #If I have faith, it is in what I can observe about the world around me and not in something that cannot be seen, heard, felt, measured, and for which evidence indicates otherwise. #

I think it is unfortunate that the basic tenet of religious belief, that which apparently states that when faced with evidence to the contrary, the faith is more correct no matter what, gets carried over into other aspects of the believers' lives. #They tend to believe what they want to believe on a wide range of subjects not related to religion, even when there is solid unambiguous evidence otherwise. #It would seem that their religion has stifled their ability to think clearly. #And I am especially wary of anyone who tells me that I should not question or investigate or seek proof.

Fact is, the more fundamentalist the Christians and Islamics become, the less they seem to follow the important Commandments, and the less respect they have for other people and life in general. #And because of that I have less respect for them and their religions.

If there were a true religion, there would be only one religion.

-gary
Thanks for your comment, Gary...and, yes, faith IS a big part of my beliefs...and I can't tell you how many times faith has brought me just what was needed at a particular time or place...and I HAVE personally seen miracles of healing that doctors can't explain...however, I'm not one of those "OR ELSE!" type of guys. As best I can discern (and I do my best to not twist or turn the Word), I am instructed to proclaim the Good News (gospel)- what you do with it personally is up to you, since you have a will to do so. If a person becomes a Christian, good! If not, then you might say, the blood is off my hands as far as Christianity goes. It's not a forced issue, like other religions (Radical Islam = convert, be enslaved or be killed).

Those young boys are doing what they're instructed to do- please don't hold it against them, or me, for proclaiming what I feel is right and proper- but I haven't found anything like what I have here. And with our country having the Biblical basis it has in our laws and documents, I will not live anywhere else, since your and my freedoms aren't present anywhere else that I know.

Live free, Gary and thanks for your candidness; your rights begin where mine end, that's to be sure; we both can celebrate any way we wish, as long as we don't break laws. Good to live in the same country as you, hope to QSO with you some time!

And, in my own way, I'd like to say, "Be blessed."

[W2ILP]

It is unfortunate that everyone does NOT have an opinion...at least they don't all have any self directed opinions...because they tend to ask lawyers, doctors or clergy men instead of thinking about stuff long enough to have a self directed opinion. #Advertisers know that it is easy to influence people who start out with no opinions, especially if they themselves haven't been scammed by false phrophets.

w2ilp (Ignoring Latent Pop-ups)...and opinions that are available for a limited time at a discount.

[W2ILP]

You too can change water into wine.
For directions go to:-
www.ECKraus.com

w2ilp (Ignoring Liqour Preparation)...It still requires a still.

[K0RGR]

Quote[/b] (ab8ma @ Aug. 23 2006,16:36)]I was BORN a Baptist, but it wore off.

Mark Twain
That's interesting - I had forgotten that quote. I actually did a college term paper on Mark Twain's religion - he was a practicing Methodist. He just didn't practice often.

My grandmother insisted that we attend a Baptist church when we were young, though I cannot remember Grandma going with us. She was the grandaughter of a Church of Christ minister who also owned the distillery in Barnesville, Ohio, and she married a family that was a from a long line of Methodists, so I don't know where the Baptists got in.

The first Baptist preacher I remember was the Rev. Mr. Goode. After a few years of our acquaintance, Rev. Goode retired, and was replaced, by the Rev. Mr. Fine. We didn't get along with Rev. Fine at all, so we were hoping that he'd be replaced by Rev. Excellent, or Rev. Outstanding, but it never happened.

We had a falling out with the church over their objection to our Catholic friends, and reverted to our former heathen savage beliefs. I now belong to my mother's church, the Looterans. At least they serve wine on Sundays, and I have never heard any reference to hellfire or damnation in the 20 years since I joined. Hallelujah!

[K0RGR]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Aug. 24 2006,11:24)]Quote[/b] (KC4HGH @ Aug. 24 2006,11:10)]I prefer to study the whole Word of God and have a relationship with Him...you can't put God in a box, he won't fit!

Yes, I understand what God intended, but not fully- and I hope to learn more as I fellowship in His Word.
Yeah, I see that a lot: People read the bible more when they get older. And then they read it a lot when they get really old.

It's cramming for the final exam. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
I preferred W.C. Fields' explanation when caught reading the Bible on his deathbed. "Looking for loopholes..."