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G0GQK
08-21-2006, 08:32 PM
Eleven bomb plotters have been arrested in the UK. Police found and confiscated 400 computers said to hold vital information on worldwide terrorist activities. They also found 200 mobile phones and over 8,000 computer accessories such as DVD's and memory sticks.

Since this investigation began the police have searched 69 private and business properties, and vehicles. A few days ago after an intensive search of a wood they found and seized a suitcase which they said contained bomb making components including peroxide.

G0GQK

W3MIV
08-21-2006, 08:53 PM
God bless and keep you Brits on the job!

Our folks here have their hands (eyes, and ears) tied by the likes of the ACLU and other "humanitarians" who prefer to try to come to a consensus of love and happiness with the likes of the thugs who brutally murdered Daniel Berg simply because he was an American Jew.

Your own Tony Blair said it very well:

"I say this struggle is one about values. Our values are worth struggling for. They represent humanity's progress throughout the ages and at each point we have had to fight for them and defend them. As a new age beckons, it is time to fight for them again."

And, unless we all fight for them together, we shall lose them piecemeal.

Franklin: "We must all hang together, or surely we all will hang separately."

I pray to awaken from the present nightmare when our enemies in the US are aided as much by well-intentioned though gravely misguided citizens as they are by the forces of medieval Islamic radicals plotting in mosques and caves and spider holes in benighted nations scratching in the thrall of 8th century despots.

You have the torch. Make the best of it.

n2nh
08-21-2006, 09:04 PM
Quote[/b] (G0GQK @ Aug. 21 2006,16:32)]Eleven bomb plotters have been arrested in the UK. Police found and confiscated 400 computers said to hold vital information on worldwide terrorist activities. They also found 200 mobile phones and over 8,000 computer accessories such as DVD's and memory sticks.

Since this investigation began the police have searched 69 private and business properties, and vehicles. A few days ago after an intensive search of a wood they found and seized a suitcase which they said contained bomb making components including peroxide.

G0GQK
Great job. Just think, the British did it without once saying you're either with me or you're with the terrorists, forming a "Dept. of Homeland Security", or using illegal bugging (or any other use of the word bug).

Way to go. Hope they get nice long sentences.

By the way, Anne Coulter would like her vat of peroxide back. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N9XR
08-21-2006, 09:14 PM
Quote[/b] ]Investigators said Monday that 11 of the 23 suspects being held in the foiled plot to blow up several trans-Atlantic flights have been charged with conspiracy to commit murder. Also, the head of the country's anti-terror branch said bomb-making equipment and martyrdom videos on computers were discovered during the probe.
ABC Def News (http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2338189)
Yeah. Our news says that there are 11 charged. 23 or so have been arrested. At least one has already been released, some girl.
Rather than using "mountans of evidence", they use "substantial material" as evidence. Good move there.

Quote[/b] ]It was revealed by U.S. officials that authorities believed the suspects planned to detonate liquid explosives aboard commercial jets.
I am not sure what this is supposed to mean. Did UK officials not know about these people before the US told them? I thought this was broken by UK officials.

Let's hope the guilty stay behind bars, and aren't just let free, willy nilly.

W3MIV
08-21-2006, 09:19 PM
Quote[/b] (n2nh @ Aug. 21 2006,17:04)]Just think, the British did it without once saying you're either with me or you're with the terrorists, forming a "Dept. of Homeland Security", #or using illegal bugging (or any other use of the word bug).
How little you really do know.

The British had the good sense to create their "department of homeland security" in 1883, and it is called Special Branch to this day. As Casey Stengel used to say, "you could look it up."

And, whereas the British constitution may be unwritten, it is no less protective of their rights than is ours, and no less revered. It's just that they have the good sense to keep enough flexibility to make sure the realm is secure, for THAT is ONLY the foundation on which liberty can thrive, and rights mean nothing to the mangled bodies lying in the rubble of a Twin Tower or Tube.

Some of you folks have passed through the looking glass.

AC0H
08-21-2006, 10:11 PM
Quote[/b] ] or using illegal bugging (or any other use of the word bug).
How do you know that it wasn't our NSA which told the brits where to go look in the first place?

K1OU
08-21-2006, 10:27 PM
Great! Where's Bin Laden? Thought so.

K1OU
08-21-2006, 10:31 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Aug. 21 2006,15:11)]Quote[/b] ] or using illegal bugging (or any other use of the word bug). #
How do you know that it wasn't our NSA which told the brits where to go look in the first place?
And how do you know it was? Please share with the group....

AC0H
08-21-2006, 10:55 PM
Quote[/b] ]And how do you know it was? Please share with the group....
I don't, but I didn't make the assumption that the NSA's supposedly "illegal" surveilance program didn't make any contribution at all. N2NH did.
That's why they call it SECRET. I'd just as soon not know the methods used. If I don't know then the terrorists don't know and that's the way any clear thinking American would want it.
Well, except for those whose irrational hatred of GWB has allowed them to put the rest of us at risk so they can make political hay.

K1OU
08-21-2006, 10:58 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Aug. 21 2006,15:55)]Quote[/b] ]And how do you know it was? #Please share with the group....
I don't, but I didn't make the assumption that the NSA's supposedly "illegal" surveilance program didn't make any contribution at all. N2NH did.
That's why they call it SECRET. I'd just as soon not know the methods used. If I don't know then the terrorists don't know and that's the way any clear thinking American would want it.
Well, except for those whose irrational hatred of GWB has allowed them to put the rest of us at risk so they can make political hay.
This has nothing to do with N2NH. You don't know. Period.

K1OU
08-21-2006, 11:08 PM
Quote[/b] (AC0H @ Aug. 21 2006,15:55)]I'd just as soon not know the methods used. If I don't know then the terrorists don't know and that's the way any clear thinking American would want it.

Well, except for those whose irrational hatred of GWB has allowed them to put the rest of us at risk so they can make political hay.
YOU MUST BE F)(&(*)&ING KIDDING ME!!!!!!!

You can look somebody in the eye and say that you don't want to know what the government is doing because it must be the right thing to do!!!!! OMG!!!

I don't know what to call this.....not knowing, so not having to take responsibility, or just following blindly.

gw4rcm
08-21-2006, 11:48 PM
British MI5 and the STU have had these Characters under surveillance since last November.
To gather more evidence ,even to the last few minutes of their "operation", MI5 & the STU were prepared to 'Allow' them freedom. We kept the American Govt and the CIA up to full speed on their activities at all times.
And guess what, we were ordered to pull them immaturley, because someone in America cacked himself .
We now have to either let them go free or find cast iron charges.

RCM

W3MIV
08-22-2006, 12:15 AM
Quote[/b] (gw4rcm @ Aug. 21 2006,19:48)]And guess what, #we were ordered to pull them immaturley, because someone in America cacked himself .
Why am I not surprised.

If one can't hold his water, he needs to find another job. Or have one found for him, well outside of the "cone of interference." There are times when chances need to be taken, and the odds cannot be too finely analyzed. Alas, I suspect that the "poll-readers" argued against the risk and the politicians hit the panic button.

I can just imagine the puddles under chairs that "allowing" them freedom inspired! It'll be a week of Sundays before the carpets to dry out.

AC0H
08-22-2006, 01:31 AM
Quote[/b] ]You can look somebody in the eye and say that you don't want to know what the government is doing because it must be the right thing to do!!!!! OMG!!!
STRAIGHT IN THE EYE!!
Who's rights we're violated by the NSA program?
Do you really think Abdul the Al-Quaeda is calling home to Chicago from Afganistan, Syria, Iran, or Pakistan for the grocery list? I couldn't care less if the NSA records every phone call I make for the rest of my life if it keeps 9/11 from happening again. Apparently you're willing to sacrifice a few thousand Americans once in a while to make sure they can't.

And worst part is, if it had been president Billy Jeff Clinton's idea you'd be all for it.

N3ATS
08-22-2006, 01:46 AM
Quote[/b] (K1OU @ Aug. 21 2006,17:27)]Great! Where's Bin Laden? Thought so.
Hey! That's my line!