A new introduction..

Howdy all, moderators and users a like,

I mistakenly identified myself as KB7NDF here before in this forum. Please diregaurd any of these posts as they are not wholly acurate. I apologize for any inconvenience.

I wish to re-represent myself as Greg, an avid but beginner, novice, newbie, whatever-have-ya.

I will not go into why I posted in the forum like I was doing before, but I wish to reclaim and represent myself here.

I'm not much more than a listener. I'm not really good at electronics stuff either, but I manage to dig the information out, by some means, even unknowingstl by my own self I don't know.

Anyhow, I really mostly only LISTEN to 2m on my 99 channel scanner. I have a Kenwood TR-7400a that I was given by my mom's friend, as a gift when her father passed away. I had to sell the ICOM 02AT that I bought for $50. I have a Motorola 900mhz MaxTrac, Motorola Radius P100, and various other listening equipment, and other misc. tube type misc. receivers, a King CB, 10/11 and 6m amps (for parts), a wire recorder, console radio and some other misc. equipment like a fluke DMM, a signal corps o-scope, a heathkit scope, and some bits and pieces of a LPFM transmitter I tried to build.

I am also a avid Collins Avionics fan of around 1964 vintage. I heard once about turning the Collins VHF/HF aircraft transmitters into ameteur radio transmitter.. but I still would like to be able to repair them as they were designed to operate because I originally intended to set up a Boeing 727-100 flight simulator. I have two of these rigs.

I used to have a lot more but my mom being really dumb got rid of a lot of my stuff without my permission during a time when I was not doing so good in life.

Anyhow, I'm also into homebrew stuff, in particularly amplifiers and rigs, as you could probably tell from my previous post.. I'm a DIY sort of guy.

I was always interested in the old format 73 magazine from the 70's, old issues of QST and also the older ARRL guides, but I lost a lot of those too. I also have always been interested in the activity on Phone/Voice 20m and 40m, and then figuring out whats on the novice bands.

I was a member of a SWL DX club here in WA but that only lasted a short time.

Anyhow there you have it.

Someday, somehow, I may get my liscence. At this rate it will be a long long long long long long time.

Greg




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[N6BOA]

Moved to a more appropriate forum.

Barb, n6boa
One of the QRZ.com moderators

[ab8ro]

Hello Greg,

First, welcome back. I'm glad you decided to come back under a legitimate username. People who are curious about electronics and radio are a natural fit with amateur radio.

Second, stating that you felt like you needed a callsign when you signed up #in order to sign up and post is a reasonable explanation. The signup page does tend to make non hams feel unwelcome. #

To wit:

Quote[/b] ]
Non-callsign usernames are not recommended. Unless your username is a valid USA or DXCC callsign, your QRZ system privilges will be limited.


So, that out of the way let's clear a few things up.

When a non-ham starts asking about amplifiers many hams assume that person to be a CBer. Moreover, they are not very often incorrect.

My advice to you, which is free and worth every penny you pay for it, #is to avoid amplifer discussion for the time being

It sounds like you're very curious about radio. I also had many many old copies of QST long before I was licensed. As a teenager I collected parts with the intention of building a transmitter for when that license finally came. I was looking at my falling apart 1969 handbook the other day and I noticed circles around many of the parts for the "One Tube Transmitter". Those must have been the parts that were in my junkbox, or I suppose, the parts that were not in my junkbox. #

I remember having to try and choose circuits based on what I had on hand and the frustration of not knowing which questions to ask or quite how to ask them. #I also remember the allure of the circuit and the excitement I felt when I found something that I felt I had enough parts to build.

One thing I found was that hams were much more wiling to talk about receivers than transmitters to unlicensed people. This makes sense, they want to see you get that license and they don't want to be a party to illegal operations.

Now, about that license.

Getting a ham radio license is easy. Straight up, it's just that easy. If you are genuinely interested you should be able to get your technician license within a #month. All that is necessary is for you to express your interest and people will be willing to help you find mentors in washington to help you get licensed.

I'm serious. It should take you less than a month.

Again, welcome back to QRZ as yourself.

[W0LPQ]

Which Collins HF are you speaking of? Your VHF question has already been answered.

Bill, W0LPQ

[W9AFB]

Howdy Greg!

To Bill,

The Collins 618.

To AB8R0,

It was Terry and Barb's emails that got me re-initated.
I'm sorry.

I pretty much figured talking about Amps would get me flamed.. I have to try and sort out what I'm gonna do after I get my license.. I hate to try and waste more of my money. For this reason I outlined what I am trying to do.

Still, disregaurd my previous posts as KB7NDF. That being said, are there any available KB7's once I do that I could apply for? Just a HUGE curiousity.

I doubt, with my problems having a learning disability that it would ever take a whole month. I think at the very earliest an entire season of daily and I do mean daily work. I don't learn things "that" easily.

I do have that tattered old 1st edition copy of "Now You're Talking.." with the blue tapes. I still wish that was available as a MP3.

Have there been any changes to the question pool since 7/2003? Or, should I study the Novice guide.

I have the MFJ 557. I might just use it :-)

I hope I answered your posts in the other topics I posted.

Yeah, I got way too many projects.. and a lot of them are non- radio related. My mom hounds me about this all the time.

That being said, I'm pretty much still a SWL.. that will be till I get my license.

Greg

[ab8ro]

I'm gonna get flamed for this. So I'm putting on my flame retardant underwear.

I don't know what your learning disability is, but, you seem to have no problem memorizing copious quantities of, shall we say, seemingly uninteresting, information.

Here's my advice. Download the question pool. Read the questions. Try and answer them, see if you got it right, then read the correct answer out loud. Repeat until you get most of them right on the first try most of the time.

Then go take the test. Forget about morse code until you've passed the tech exam.

I'm going to keep working on this.....

if you are so inclined and curious, google something called "Aspergers Syndrome". That should point you in some direction.

As for the question pool, I'm up do doing something like that.

Greg

[N4AUD]

I have Asperger's Syndrome. I never considered it a learning disability, quite the contrary.

Dan Akroyd has it, and it's rumored that Bill Gates does as well. Einstein may have had Asperger's Syndrome. Often children with Asperger's Syndrome are called "little professors" and most people with it have no problem learning, and one of the traits is becoming somewhat obcessed with a particular subject and becoming expert in that subject.

You shouldn't have any problem with the Technician question pool.

Mine is the exception to that rule. Most people give up trying to teach me anything and becoming fustrated, and then saying something to the effect of, "I give up, you'll never learn anything".

I really try but it don't happen!

Greg

[N4AUD]

If you are interested in radio, learn about antennas first. Antennas are the key. If you have a great transceiver and a lousy antenna, you'll transmit and recieve poorly and an amp won't make up for it. I don't own an amplifier, thought there are times when one would be handy. Learn all you can about antennas.

As far as Aperger's Syndrome, I suspect there are a LOT of hams with it. Most people with AS are considered geeky or a bit odd. Ham radio is geek central. Most people with AS probably haven't been diagnosed and as adults have learned to adapt. I never knew anything about it until a year or so ago, and the only thing I've done is to give my wife infomation about it to make her life with me a little easier.

[ab8ro]

I'm not suggesting you try to learn anything Greg. I'm suggesting that you memorize something. Despite what you say, you clearly have the ability to memorize stuff. Exploit that. Let the learning happen at its own pace. I think ham radio will survive one more person who just memorized answers to pass the tech exam.

I memorize way to little stuff. It tends to come in minute to minute spurts.

I realized I have AS sometime between 11/2003 and 8/2004. My then girlfriend, now ex-girlfriend, had a friend who explained to me (and her) that it was possible that AS was my case. Since then what I have read about it, and my case align themselves too much to me.. but I was never officially diagnosed. Sorry to say.

I'll need to learn, not just memorize.. that will be the key to my success with this.. with the addition of a helper.. possibly a elmer.

I just hate to sound like a dum-dum.. and.. well because of this I was almost sure I would get exactly as I did when I joined here.

Try and try as I might I fail without fail.

(See I also always have had a self confidence issue because so many things I do, fail.)

Greg

[n8yx]

Quote[/b] (ab8ro @ Aug. 08 2006,02:03)]If you are genuinely interested you should be able to get your technician license within a #month. All that is necessary is for you to express your interest and people will be willing to help you find mentors in washington to help you get licensed.

I'm serious. It should take you less than a month.
My XYL - who is rather passe about ham radio but likes the idea of having more than the CB radio frequencies available to her - managed to study for the Tech license in two or three marathon sessions. One was @ Dayton just a few hours before she took her test.

While 'DSG's not a dumb gal by any stretch, things of a technical nature tend to overwhelm her at times - but perserverence paid off in this case. Upon her passing the exam, I bought for Nicki a copy of the Radio Amateur's Handbook and the Operating Manual. Always more to learn, and sometimes the most important things AREN'T on the tests...

Well, now, yes I know antennas are important.. aparently as I have read and I think I understand that having a properly "matched" antenna is a good thing.

That being said, I often feel like such a dum-dum when I come to the point where I get more and more confused.

While it is likely after a great length of study, I will be able to pass the test, I still am a bit worried about what I will actually do with it once I do.

I am interested in 'ALK's thoughts too.

Nothing in life comes very easy for me.. and the hard stuff, at least these sort of things seem so hard for me. I give up trying, wether I like it or not.. this is why I seem to have so many failed projects. Perhaps If I had more success with actually finishing a project, I would be a lot happier, but I have had no or very very little help from anyone.. so I resort to coming to forums like this one for help. That seems to be a pretty dumb idea, I am hearing from people so far.

Greg

[KI4MYD]

I probably will be disliked. But it was wrong of you to forge a callsign, and it sounds like you want to be pitied for not being good at learning things.

I don't think this is the place to complain about your life's problems and your syndrome. IF you want to learn it, you can, if not, don't... but don't make up sympathetic excuses.

To answer your question, KB7NDF is available, so you'd probably be able to get it as a vanity, but most people get shorter calls I.e. 1x3, or 2x2.

Thats not such my intention. It's hard for me to learn stuff.. especially the more technical stuff. I don't want any pity at all.. rather more helpful than spiteful suggestions

It's just becoming aware to me that I should stick with being a SWL.. till I get some theory down. or pay the FCC $75 a year to have a FRS/GMRS liscence. (Thats around 400MHz)

I also dislike what I'm hearing about the Tech and Tech + privledges. Ham radio has seem to fall off its wagon wheels, since 1986.. and seemingly it seems like AR is becoming more of a Public Service entity, rather than a means of communication, of any sort.. be it SSB, CW, RTTY, AM, FM, Packet or any other mode. While that is ok, leave that to the folks on the 900MHz trunking systems and the hackers that want to create havoc on them rigging their MaxTrac's to transimit on the ham portion of 900Mhz.

I'd have to read more of the question pool, but it just seems like a beginner would not want more than a general coverage receiver, and to get a code practice key.. and see if he/she has the aptitude to spin out 5 to 15WPM.. if not he/she should stay a SWL.. as was stated to me by a ham at a hamfest back in the late 80's. Some of the VHF/UHF bands are littered with Expensive equipment to buy.. as I suggested to Barb, It doesn't seem to line up.

Once having that proficiency, a person should be allowed a basic transmitter/transceiver and VERY highly limited use of 5-8 different bands, including 2m, 6m and 70cm and the big 5.. 20, 40, 60, 80 and 160. Personally I don't see any use for other bands than these.

900MHz is for Public Service and should be left at that. The only other thing is those 900MHz cordless phones, baby monitors, and god knows what else. This to me, as one of the priveledges, leads me very skeptical on why they let people in there.. unless they want hackers / modders in the hobby. Read a copy of 2600 and you'll see what goes on.

Greg

[W4BD]

Greg

Well if I was going to bet my money on what your learning problem is I would bet on the hyperactive syndrome. My son had it when he was growing up and they bombed him on Ritlin, he quit school after failing the 10th grade the third time. I was watching a program on TV one night and they were describing a person with this hyperactive mess and they described me right down the line.
Very intelligent
Under achiver
Will start many projects but have trouble finishing even one
Short attention span
It went on and on and I said to myself "They are talking about me". I have tried to overcome some of the problems like starting projects and not finishing them. Now I will finish a project before I allow myself to start a new one. Also I have tried to use my intelligence and achive what I am capable of now

My suggestion to you is study and get the Tech ticket then start on the code. In other words make up your mind you are going to do it and just keep after it till you do it.

Hope this helps you

73's

[W5HTW]

Quote[/b] (gbowne1 @ Aug. 09 2006,16:53)]I also dislike what I'm hearing about the Tech and Tech + privledges. Ham radio has seem to fall off its wagon wheels, since 1986.. and seemingly it seems like AR is becoming more of a Public Service entity, rather than a means of communication, of any sort.. be it SSB, CW, RTTY, AM, FM, Packet or any other mode. While that is ok, leave that to the folks on the 900MHz trunking systems and the hackers that want to create havoc on them rigging their MaxTrac's to transimit on the ham portion of 900Mhz.
To me, you have just demonstrated you are far smarter, or perhaps the correct word is observant, than you even imagine! You sure won my support! Very astute comment.

So go get 'em. Memorize the darned test, and get started. It's what most other people do.

You are right - you won't ever get there, if you don't take the first steps. That's fact.

Ed

Try and try as I might, few people understand the bits of information I spew out, and others diregaurd it as coming from someone who just doesn't know what it's really like, or all about. Heck I can barely understand me sometimes. But, I don't give up.. at least not always.. I admit defeat when especially something does not work.

I've got stacks and stacks of 3 ring binders 1 through 2" size with assorted notes on all kinds of projects I never finished, and intended to, and some that are on the back shelf list.. someday I will go through and see whats actually doable, take an inventory of what I have, and cobble together the missing pieces of my education.. and move on.

But, Ed, I'm not sure where things exactly went wrong.. I just know that it's now so much different than it was more than ~15 years ago.

Back in those days, I liked what I saw at hamfests and went to a number of them, mostly as a SWL interested in HAM. I just feared I couldn't do more than 10WPM.. probably like a lot of other people have. I saw great radios like the TS-830, R-5000, IC-R71A, etc.. but no one in my family had enough money or the willingness to buy me one. I had to make do with the ICF-6700W and the Hallicrafters my mom bought me.

I need someone in my life who is somewhat of like what my grandfather was.. a retired IBM field engineer and typewriter salesman. Willing to sit around with me and not make a big fuss about it if I make a mistake. Well, My dad was a commercial electrician, but was too often not around and not sober enough to teach me a flamin' thing. My dad learned his stuff from the Rocky Mountan college.. back in the 40's and 50's. He's now dead too, as well as my grandfather.

Hindsight is 20/20, in my case 20/30.. I would have done better if I'd listened to my grandfather, paid attention, took notes and more. Now that they are both gone, I'm missing something that might be quite valuable.

Yes, HTW, I am sure you're right.. but I don't always have that short of an attention span. It does have a lot more to do with what I'm interested in at a particular moment, on how attentive I am.

Greg

[k7dlx]

Greg:

What part of the country do you live in? (If I missed it, sorry...)

K7DLX,

I live in Seattle, WA.

Greg

[WA5VQM]

Quote[/b] (gbowne1 @ Aug. 09 2006,16:53)]I also dislike what I'm hearing about the Tech and Tech + privledges. Ham radio has seem to fall off its wagon wheels, since 1986..

snip

Once having that proficiency, a person should be allowed a basic transmitter/transceiver and VERY highly limited use of 5-8 different bands, including 2m, 6m and 70cm and the big 5.. 20, 40, 60, 80 and 160. Personally I don't see any use for other bands than these.
You have some very astute observations there. Don't sell yourself short. It's obvious you have brains and would be a welcome addition to the ham community. Keep at it. We need more like you.

What you have described is basically the old novice license. I think it should return, much like you describe, and what the heck, maybe some very limted phone privledges on 75, 40, 10. It probably won't, but it should.

Basic test, 5WPM, some HF access phone & CW.

Note: I have a Nephew that recently became interested in ham radio. The no code Tech license held no interest. Tech Plus gives HF access to bascially barren bandwidth. So he had to look at jumping right into General. It was too big a jump for a 13 year old. We lost one. It wasn't the code. If there were a license class like you describe, we would have gained one.

Bring back the novice.

73, Mark

There has to be some sort of balance here that I'm not seeing in the priveledges, albeit for all license classes.

I also agree let them also have VERY limited phone and CW access to 75 and 10 as well as the other 8 I mentioned. Let them have a portion where people are more likely to converge upon.

Some people wanna tap at their CW Bug/Key, some people wanna type at their PC screen across the radio waves, some people wanna actually talk. Not everybody wants the same thing. Some people think CW is annoying and hard to send/receive, so ok, let them have basic phone, but Very Very limitedly.

I also say let the MARS and the military CW ops tap it out at 20, 25, 30, 35 wpm. The rest of us can have more intelligible QSO's and be able to handle under 20. Some people can't transcribe that fast.. military minded ops seem to have the knack for high speed CW.

Oh yeah, and not to mention letting a tech run up to 1.5kW? This might let a CBer with a 'tower of power' into ham. Not many people know how to handle power like that.. much be able to afford all the equipment to keep it under tow. I'd say Novice/Tech's should get no more than 250w or 500w.

Basically forget all the high UHF bands too. A lot of this band is controlled by equipement that is also controlled by NASA and the government. (Unless there is something I'm Missing here..) They won't let you have it if you ain't got the $. What novice/tech has the $ to do it, unless he/she is like Paul Allen or Bill Gates. Maybe this is a ploy to get us to talk to "My Favorite Martian". Unless you like talking to yourself, or to the moon.. (moonbounce)

They should build ham radio schools in 3 or 4 different sections of the country. Organize it like a high school or college. Let them have CCE credits for it. Show kids and people of all ages electronics theory, morse code, show them how to build a basic rig, etc. More people might actually get something from it. Bring in VE's and famous people who are ham radio ops for show and tell day. Bring in a FCC Field rep to give a lecture. Go on a field trip to such thing as a field day. Let people take their test as their graduation. They could have seperate classes for exCBers, SWL's and for once leave out the hacks.

I read many of the tech and tech + questions.. there are a hand ful which the answers they give are actually somewhat well.. I'll let you figure the answer to that one out.

Oh yeah, one last note.. let's all keep a better eye on 10m, 11m and ESPECIALLY 2m. 2m seems to be the place the ex CB'ers hang out on.. cause all they think is having a mobile or HT is cool! 440 seems to be all by itself and does quite well.

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Greg

[M3KCK]

Quote[/b] (gbowne1 @ Aug. 09 2006,08:21)]I'm going to keep working on this.....
Hi Greg,

You seem to be an avid Swl and have a Keen interest in Radio #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

It seems to me that you seek guidance in the form of an Elmer to concentrate your Interest and Help you develop this into an Amateur Licence!!

I am sure that someone here in the Forums who may live local to you may Help in this matter by giving you some details of an Amateur Radio club in your area #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

I can only think that a Radio club near to you would be of Great Help and I am sure that you would find an Elmer there and get all the help and advice that you need?
Good Luck,
es 73
Regards,
Andrew # M3KCK

edit:
Some Amateurs Near You? http://www.mcneight.org/Projects/HamMap/
Takes a min to open!!

Look one of these Amateurs up on Qrz.com and drop them an e-mail and I am sure that you will get some Local help http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[M3KCK]

This could be what your looking for??
Mike and Key Amateur Radio Club (http://www.mikeandkey.org/)
es 73
Regards,
Andrew # M3KCK

[ne6ao]

OK greg here goes., I 've got addhd Im 'bipolar and a recoverd alcholic and asper too, didnt get my ticket till I was 44yrs.I get a small penshion for being some thing like the absent mimded prof.But been playing and working in the electronics industry since I was 15,almost most of my friends and a couple of bosses were hams but trying to learn rules code and theory always was Ill do it tomorrow,any way In 1995 I was a caretaker on 20 acres in the forest,on a indian reservation I had gotten sober and met an old ind lady who was lookin for some one to look after the ranch no elec no phone no runnin water 3 mi from nearest rd,a 1 rm 16x18 A frame house ! one day at a time turned into 17 yrs rebuilt the house 2 storys slab kitchen solar water heater tapped into an old waterline no one had used in 40 yrs water was still going it was fed by a spring from mt palomar where the observatory is.She was wantin to preserve her 20 acres of oak trees and stop people from poachin and hurtin the land ,so anyways I'd been there about 9yrs and suddenly thought I wanted to do something new I had unpacked some elec gear a cb radio plain old 5wts and talked for abt 2mths and then I found an old code tape and started to listen just listened as I went to sleep .abt 2or three wks later went into local radio shack I always haunted them like you I was a tinkerer so I found out the mgr was a ham and I bought the novice tech book I cant find it now but I think it was a w5yi book,any way it coverd all the theory and questions gave dirt simple explanations,so started listening to code tape and writin down what I could It took me 6 mths to learn the code but I did it.I really did it.I had to tell myself over and over it doesnt matter how long it will take, ya see when I was around society I compared my insides with their outsides so of 6 kids in my family i was oldest boy 1 older sister I'm the only one who didnt finish highschool or get a college degree but livin on the reservation I taught my self enough physics to bring water to the house, for 20.00 in parts I brought water from a 90 ft well she had the well but no windmill pump the one she had blew over in the early 60's and no one was there so people stole most of the parts,Ilearned how to live sober and yes im in that org with two initials hi #hi I can say Im a friend of bills but o well you get the drift anyway I got my ticket and 3 mths later got general took 13min code test passed it.I got an old swan350 for 100.00 at swapmeet the weekend I got my tech and so # almost excactly # a year later I got my advanced I would get the study manuals from my friend at local radio shack and it came to pass,dont sell your self short If some one like me can do this and believe it or not there are days sometimes 8-10 in a row I can copy 15or18 then ill listen and not remember what a b or c sounds like it comes and goes yes I get real depressed cant do much of anything for days at a time ,so yes Im probably one of the few who knows you as well as you think you know your self boy that was "hard to type" anyway I live in the city of gardena calif now Im currently recovereing from throat cancer last sept surgery it came back in dec massive radiation feb mar pt april hopefully this last bout is over so 73 email me forANYTIME YOU NEED TO ASK A QUESTION my ham friends were never to busy or to give me a part I needed tom NE6AO # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif :blush: http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif ;)

[ab8ro]

I couldn't read that in one breath, did you write it in one? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ky5u]

Did I miss something, or did this fellow used a fake callsign to get on QRZ? Glad he wants to be an Amateur and he has the right idea there, but starting off on the wrong foot it seems. IMHO.

[W0LPQ]

Yes Charlie, it was a fake call sign. Just plucked one out of the air and used it.

So was the other call sign he mentioned.

Bill, W0LPQ

[ne6ao]

oops didnt get that in first reading but lets see what happens

[WA2ZDY]

Seems the lad has a case of deli disease. What do they sell in a deli? Baloney!

Gee whiz that was long winded.. and I thought I wrote long stuff!

Well, thanks for the story.

Oh by the way I smoked and drank from Jun. 1998 - Jan.2004, almost daily. I have since quit. Probably the best thing I ever did.

Yeah I get real depressed too.. but I getting better at it.

Fear in me gets the bugs rattling in my cage.

Greg

[W0LPQ]

Greg, with what you are telling us, you want to build and fly your own plane?? Not with me aboard.

Bill, W0LPQ

I am growing weary of people's' sly comments.

Can you say gone in 60 seconds like the move?

My last post is in the Talk forum.

Greg

[W0LPQ]

Greg, think about what you have said with your AS problems and such. Now stop and think, with those issues .... if you are serious about aviation, as I said in PM's and here, look at the EAA.org site and inquire.

See what THEY have to say, since there are a lot of medical guys who assist their operation.

You said you were going to ... but did you..!

Sly comments ... I don't think so. Many of us are concerned with what YOU say and how you say it.

Medical issues need to be looked into..

Bill, W0LPQ

I contaced the local EAA org chapter and asked the nice man who replied to my question from my email to the club site.

He is looking into the things I would need to get licensed by the FAA to fly with my AS.

I am almost pretty sure I would have to have an official diagnosis, of which I do not.

My thread on "My last post.." in the Rag Chew forum stands.

Greg

[W0LPQ]

Greg, glad you contacted them. When it comes to questions regarding medical info, the EAA is the place to start.

Bill, W0LPQ
EAA 184267
AOPA 925086

Thanks Bill! An answer is on the way shortly.

Greg